User talk:Elseweyr/Archive 5

Layout issue
Elsie, help miii :) I have an issuer with a test nav box here : User:DeldiRe/Sandbox/CDN

Could you help me with the code? I'm a bit lost! Thanks in advance. --DeldiRe (talk) 15:45, February 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello. What's the issue? Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk February 3, 2017, 13:12:05 (UTC)


 * I took the freedom to edit the glaring issue with the column widths. If there's anything else, I'll try help asap. Meanwhile, I'm trying to avoid ME:A story/squadmate info... Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk February 3, 2017, 13:19:11 (UTC)


 * From Belgium with love! Don't worry about spoil, it's about old content ;)--DeldiRe (talk) 18:27, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

outdated sauce?
is there a new one or a replacement? buskell and gaspur were referenced in the same post T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 00:29, March 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, I just figured the article wouldn't be necessary anymore since both of their positions have changed since and social media interactions kind of auto-confirm them these days. (Devs replying/retweeting each other and so forth.) If you'd rather we keep it, I'm ok with that. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk March 2, 2017, 10:16:45 (UTC)


 * i was actually more concerned about the ref redlink since the ref to gaspur was referenced to the one on buskell. well, i suppose we can do without the old one since they were confirmed anyway T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 15:58, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Redirects
So while making pages for the ME:A enemies, I noticed two issues (so far) with naming. In ME:A, there is an enemy called the Raider and one called the Pariah. We already redirects for each. The Raider one is for the shotgun. The one for the Pariah goes to the Adjutant. How should we go about naming the new pages? TheUnknown285 (talk) 08:55, March 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * I didn't even know "Pariah" was a thing already. Considering it's a term from the development stage that never made it into the game itself, I definitely think Pariah should simply be given to the ME:A enemy. As for "Raider", the ME3 weapon came first, so I guess Raider should be turned into a disambiguation page and then the new Raider article should be named Raider (Mass Effect: Andromeda) or Raider (enemy) or some such. Should check whether we have precedents for similar cases. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk March 2, 2017, 10:23:56 (UTC)


 * 2 items only need a for|see template. disambigs if there really are a lot of items that use the name colloquially. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 16:13, March 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * So what should we do with the page titled "Raider" if we're not going to make it a disambiguation page? Just leave it to redirect to the shotgun?  Delete it?  For the record, there are also Roekaar Raiders (which has a page) plus I think maybe Outcast Raider which doesn't yet, so we might have enough to make it a disambig page.   TheUnknown285 (talk) 17:04, March 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * There's plenty of disambiguation pages with only two items already. Since the Raider redirect exists but no longer unambiguously refers to a single item, it only makes sense to rework it into a disambiguation page. We can still use for/see tags as needed in the articles. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk March 3, 2017, 14:41:31 (UTC)


 * i suppose we better formalize usage conventions for these things, then. to keep us all in the same page. mah two cents :p T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 15:16, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Unlock request
Can you unlock the Heleus Cluster page? We have full-on, in-game confirmation of the spelling now. TheUnknown285 (talk) 18:53, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

I mistakenly thought it was unlocked as it's acting different but evidently isn't (or I don't have the privileges yet). I put the info on a sandbox here. TheUnknown285 (talk) 03:37, March 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay; been sick for the past few days. I checked the protection settings and tried editing the page while signed out, should work now if there is something you'd' like to add. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk March 5, 2017, 10:30:04 (UTC)

Helius Cluster Redirect
Given the confusion over the name, I would suggest adding a redirect from "Helius Cluster" to "Heleus Cluster." The incorrect version reportedly was even in the last briefing video. I've already done one for "Helios Cluster" but don't have the privileges to do "Helius Cluster." TheUnknown285 (talk) 14:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Infobox & navbox naming/categorisation cleanup
Hey Elseweyr, if you have the time please check out and leave your thoughts/vote on this project. 10:10, March 28, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey-- sure thing, I'll have a look ASAP. I've selfishly been avoiding the wiki while completing my first, mostly blind playthrough, but should soon be able to contribute again, especially once the usual spring chaos dies down. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk March 29, 2017, 14:09:11 (UTC)

New Bureaucrat Needed
Hey, I'm making this post on the other admins walls as well. I'd like some discussion on the forum post I made Forum:New_Bureaucrat_Needed. The wikia currently has no active bureaucrats which means no one that wants to become an admin can apply to do so. Would you be interested in taking that position? AnuChemicalCo (talk) 00:24, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Mass Effect Wikia (Portuguese)
Hi, Elseweyr!

I just created the portuguese MEWikia (http://pt-br.mass-effect.wikia.com/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal), the other one was pretty much abandoned + there is no adimin available. I'd like some help with pretty much everything, the main page template, navboxes, superior navigation, etc... If you have someone who can to help, would be much appreciated.

Glauber0 Howdy!  00:16, March 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * You can request a Wikia staff to give you a Bureaucrat status in the original Portuguese site. It was the same situation in this wiki many years back when our first Bureaucrat was inactive. As for the templates, you can always copy the templates here and then translate those templates in your own wiki. 00:31, March 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yep, what teugene said -- you can check out the requirements for adopting a wiki and other instructions on this Help page. Good luck! Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk March 31, 2017, 07:13:57 (UTC)

Mass Effect Portal
Hello, I'm looking for the templates that are a part of the template called: Mass Effect Portal and I'm wondering if you could help me to find it since my attempts so far have been extremelly unsessful.

Lin coln  Speak!  02:26, April 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello! The portal template used on the main page is here: Template:Mass Effect Portal. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk April 4, 2017, 16:41:55 (UTC)

Hello. I played in ME3MP...
Hello. I played in ME3MP and imagine that it was buged because missions were on waves 2,4,6,8 and 10 instead of 3,6 and 10. Additionally Behemoths had standard geth riffles. Here is and image as a proof. 20:12, April 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello. You were probably playing in a modded lobby; those are rather common these days. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk April 4, 2017, 16:41:55 (UTC)

Apology
I want to apologize to all admins, and you personally since you handled the situation, for my behavior over the past two days. I originally replied to on Allen Knott's petition because I was bored, did a little poking around, and found he had broken a procedural rule. After that, he really did rub me the wrong way, and I overreacted and let him get under my skin, and the conversation got very heated. I really do not like that dude. At the end of it, as The Cat Master found out, all he wanted was to scalp the admin who had blocked him even though it was a justified block. That really burned me up. I am glad I finally walked away from it but I should have sooner. Even though I have not been penalized for my part, I feel bad about how I acted, it was unprofessional. I am sorry if I caused any trouble and blew the problem out of proportion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ((╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻) 20:46, April 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * No worries at all; I'm sorry it escalated to that point before an admin stepped in. No harm done & thanks for trying to help. —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk April 7, 2017, 21:04:09 (UTC)


 * actually i should be the one apologizing to -you- for not handling it earlier (although it would be poor form if i did and it would've simply fueled their persecution fantasies further).
 * i don't particularly care for such shenanigans. it doesn't take a genius to predict what next regardless of what's said. life's too short for that and there's real work to be done both in and outside the wiki. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 21:06, April 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you both for being so understanding. I'm ready to put this behind me and go back to editing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ((╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻) 21:27, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

I did not know the recent petition was in bad form. Apologies in advance. I'll be more careful from now on. --Nord Ronnoc (talk) 00:05, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

Hello. On Polish version of...
Hello.

On Polish version of this wikia I am the last active administrator. I want to make another wikia user and admin but I don't know how to do it. Can you tell me step by step how to do it? 13:14, April 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi. Please remember to include a section header when leaving messages. You can manage user rights on Special:UserRights on your wiki. You can also access this page through the user's profile page: User page → Contributions → user rights management. —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk April 9, 2017, 13:21:48 (UTC)

Bug Policy
You mentioned in the edits for the ME:A task "Naming the Dead" (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Task:_Naming_the_Dead?action=history) that I should take a look at the "Bug Policy".

First off, I'm sorry I didn't adhere to these policies, and I hope that I haven't broken any other rules along the way.

Second, I would like to make sure that I don't break any policies moving forward. I have tried looking for information on policies, procedures, and formatting, but have had almost no luck finding any resources for such topics. Could you point me in the correct direction?

Also, I haven't had any luck with people responding to my questions about formatting and edits. Could I use you as a resource? The Discussion section of the wiki doesn't provide very useful insight, unless that's the wrong place to ask. Fundastraz (talk) 07:53, April 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * the autowelcome message that should've been on your talkpage when you first edited here should contain the links you need to be reading to familiarize yourself with the wiki's workings, although apparently you're one of those who never got one. happens from time to time.
 * anyway, you can get to them via the navigation bar at the top, under the community header.
 * also, it seems you've been implementing some formatting changes that are currently under brainstorming session. unless the details have been hashed out in the forum page, the changes shouldn't be there yet. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 13:30, April 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. Everyone's just proposing their own formatting changes and implementing them. I'm trying to look around, and try the different formats and mix-and-match, to see what works best. I used a base format for almost all the Tech Skill pages(http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Skills#Tech)/(http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Flamethrower), but am using just two pages to test different formats. Maybe I edited a brainstorming session? If that's the case, I'm sorry, but here's what I've been trying to do so far...
 * For Incinerate, I just made the MEA format like the other Mass Effect game formats, and now I'm being told not to implement it? I'm a tad confused and thought that if we had multiple formats, we could see which one worked best. I want to help, but I just started on the website, and want this site to be as much of a help to other people for MEA, as it was a help for me for ME1 and ME2.
 * If the link was supposed to auto-populate for familiarizing myself with the wiki's workings, could I get a link of it posted somewhere, or told where I can find it on the site? Some of the sitemap is a little bit of a maze to me.Fundastraz (talk) 23:59, April 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * inserting icons where they shouldn't be is a major change since we've never done that for ME3 (ME2 doesn't have them). also, as i understand it talents/powers carried over from the original trilogy get their own page now (Energy Drain (skill), etc - can't really verify, due to reasons).
 * see the article header above with the wiki logo? there's a drop down menu there. everything you need is on the community heading. or you're welcome: Mass Effect Wiki:Manual of Style, Mass Effect Wiki:Community Guidelines, Mass Effect Wiki:Files Guideline, Mass Effect Wiki:Information Sourcing T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 00:10, April 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay. My bad. I didn't portray my understanding very well. I did read through those community guidelines, but I missed the bug policy and see that it requires 3 users to verify a bug for it to become confirmed. I'll post the relevant bug on the talk page.
 * As far as separate skill pages go, I didn't want to overwrite the "Incinerate" skill page, and I saw that many other skills were new. Despite that, I saw the "Pull" skill had its own page, and I didn't want to create a whole bunch of new pages, just to have them deleted. I'll probably just created a new Incinerate (skill) page real quickly and move the MEA information over. I'll also continue any part of this conversation on the Skills talk page, since it's more relevant there. Thanks for your willingness to help so far!
 * Fundastraz (talk) 00:29, April 17, 2017 (UTC)

Improvements and/or changes on Skill Page MoS.
I have a few suggestions or ideas to run by for Skills. Not only for the separate individual skill pages (for Pathfinder Ryder/multiplayer), but also for the squadmates (ie. Nakmor Drack). Where do I propose the format for both? Do I add more pages in the Projects forum? Specifically, I want to submit one or two formats before voting opens up to see what people think. If it ends up my format working, I'd be happy to do all of them for each skill. Fundastraz (talk) 07:58, April 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, and sorry for the delay. Was abroad over Easter and fell ill afterward, so I've been quite busy since getting back on my feet.
 * Thanks for contributing to the skills page discussion. The icons and tables could certainly be used for better visual appeal, but as such the pages you're currently creating are a bit lacking. I'm not too keen on just listing the rank upgrades row by row, which Teugene also mentioned on the Project page. As of patch 1.05 the displayed stats are updated according to the ranks you choose, so we should keep noting the potential stats at each rank as opposed to just listing the effects of each rank. So, all in all, the layout needs to be more elegant and better reflect the branching structure, and the ranks section also needs to be more informative.
 * As for the different versions of the skills, it should be no problem to handle as individual sections on the same page (see eg. Singularity). I'm a little iffy on appending (Skill) to the ME:A versions because they're still technically Powers as well (Skills are either Powers or Passives), but we can always address that later if needed. —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk April 21, 2017, 14:28:37 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response, and I'm sorry you were sick. I'm glad you took some time to recover, but I'm excited to hear from you. As for my skill pages, I was just trying to get some information out there. I can get all the single-player skill stats (including all squadmate skills), and most of the multiplayer ones, so I'm just trying to help as much as I can.
 * I'm going to cover your response in reverse order (sorry). I was told to add the (skill) label on the end of a page if it was already there, because the Andromeda skills should have their own pages. If you want to see an attempt to use the column format with MEA, take a look at Incinerate, compared to Incinerate (skill).
 * I'd love to make the ranks section more "informative", based on your feedback. If that would mean calculating every stat out, I could easily help with calculating those out and editing each page for that. In fact, I had seen that was done previously with the ME1-3 skill details. I just didn't know what you were doing in MEA, if it was done differently. How else can I make my pages more informative or less lacking?
 * I was kind of following the table format for two reasons: A. That's what everyone else was doing. B. The columns format takes a long while. Maybe after doing it a few times in source mode, I might get faster, or come up with a template I can copy+paste, then amend the details... but on the Incinerate page, it took me a long while. If we don't want to use the icons, we don't have to. I'm fine to delete them all, and even delete them from the website permanently. At least maybe we can keep the teal primer/detonator icons?


 * EDIT: I noticed what you mean by some pages lacking. Some of the pages I created aren't as refined as the more recent ones. Here's one of my most recent pages: Nova (skill), compared to one of my first: Tactical Cloak (skill).
 * Fundastraz (talk) 16:53, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Of course-- I do not fault you for going ahead and creating some initial pages, I just meant "lacking" in the context of trying to come up with a new standard we would implement for all skill pages :) Some of the earlier skill pages definitely had these same issues.
 * I maintain that eg. the Nova page is currently not informative enough and doesn't reflect the branching structure of the skills well enough, so the new layout needs to account for that even if we can't fill in all the information at once. There should be no need for manual calculation; one can always experiment back and forth in the game, noting stat changes, undoing and redoing rank upgrades as needed. And yes, I'd definitely recommend keeping some kind of template at hand when working with edits like these. Unfortunately I can't help you if you're using the Visual Editor, I prefer source editing myself (which makes c/p'ing easier, among other things).
 * In short, thanks for adding some skeleton pages for now, but ultimately any new layout suggestions are tested against the current format we have for ME2/3 Powers, so they need to be at least as informative and/or visually appealing. I myself don't have much time or ideas for a project like this right now, so if this were left to me, for now I'd probably try to modify the ME2/3 version to better suit ME:A Skills but otherwise keep it mostly similar. —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk April 22, 2017, 12:25:36 (UTC)

The Immunity from Responsibility of Temporary Editor
My final post.

What kind of system do you have in place to preempt or at least ostensibly harness the wild capriciousness of irresponsible administrators or editors who misuse their "office"?

Whatever currently exists, is woefully inadequate, and "TemporaryEditor" is the proof.

Shall anything ever be done to re-establish normal scholarly, objective standards?

Thank you.

Volus and vorcha ME3 MP character images
I don't know if you are the right person to talk to, but i noticed you have been adding images recently. Anyway, the infobox images for the Volus Adept, Volus Engineer, Volus Protector Vanguard, Volus Mercenary Sentinel, Vorcha Soldier and Vorcha Sentinel have too much space above the characters, which looks kinda bad IMO. I just thought I'd bring that to your attention as I don't have the means or the know how to create or edit those types images. The Cat Master (talk) 18:40, June 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm aware of it but I suppose the idea is that each character image takes up an equal amount of space, making the infobox size constant. If the characters are shorter or hunched it means there's going to be some extra empty space. The procedure of cropping the images is not very complicated per se, but as it's not a priority issue, I'll see if I can get to it when I have more time. —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk June 12, 2017, 13:33:08 (UTC)

TemporaryEditor78
Was gonna ask you more seriously about talking to TempEditor about his behavior and constant violation of the wiki's rules (No warnings. No reasons for reverts. Insulting people asking him why they were banned) But after looking through his talk page and edit history it is abundantly clear that he is immune from the rules AS HE HAS BEEN BREAKING THEM ON A NIGH WEEKLY BASIS FOR YEARS. Very sad. Literally hundreds of community members have been scared off and harassed by him over years with 0 repercussions. You should be ashamed. I see how you handled a recent complaint by allowing him to ban them for 'vandalism', I see he was also called out for his blatant abuse of his admin status and nothing was done. Well this is not 'vandalism' it is a valid complaint so if I am banned for sharing this with admins and nothing is done about it you're just further proving my point.

76.177.0.68 06:29, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Please Remove TemporaryEditor78's Admin status
For six years, Temp has been harassing, insulting, scaring off, and banning community members. He is not admin material. Have MANY of his bans been rightfully done? Yes. However there are a myriad, literally hundreds of examples of where he has BLATANTLY VIOLATED the community guidelines.

Other admins have received DOZENS of requests ranging from Temp's removal, to demotion, to somebody just speaking to him. However, even when directly confronted for ONE of again HUNDREDS of violations of the community guidelines Temp was given NO consequences. He has never received any. This is wrong, and you cannot tell me it is not wrong. The guidelines are clear and another Admin was directly confronting Temp, knowing he was in the wrong. This was about a user who requested something be done about Temp by the way, Temp permanently banned them for complaining to other admins on their talk pages. It was dropped. Unacceptable.

You could EASILY go through Temp's edit history and talk pages and find MULTIPLE violations over the course of years that he didn't bother to delete. But I will provide a recent example in hopes of something actually changing. Temp insults a user and uses profane language in an edit that was made for legitimate reasons but UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE is his insult okay. AT ALL.

He does so again when questioned, absolutely unacceptable.

Temp also does not post on users talk pages to warn them, in fact he either gives no warning at all or he leaves warnings in the edit history, which NO other wikia admin I have ever seen does, and leads to unnecessary edit warring.

Often Temp will argue that he has no time to help other users or explain things fully to them 'coddle' them as he calls it, and yet he has time to type out paragraphs of insults.

Your community guidelines have very clear rules for banning and language which I will quote below.

'''Abusive language toward other users will also not be tolerated, particularly when it contains profanities or obscenities. When deciding how to respond to an editor's comments, consider how you would speak to a stranger face-to-face in public, as that is effectively what you are doing; if someone takes offense at your language it is best to stop. Violators will be warned, then banned for repeat violations (see below). The only time when otherwise forbidden language is permissible is when directly quoting a Mass Effect character in an article.

Banning Banning a user happens under two circumstances. A roaming user who commits a major act of vandalism but is not a contributor will have their IP address blocked for a short period of time to discourage a vandalism spree. However a regular contributor will be banned if circumstances demand it. Examples of behaviour leading to a ban include:

Repeated vandalism of pages Crude or offensive language “Editing wars” Insulting other users Editing another user’s comments or user page Impersonating another user to vandalise pages or ridicule them “Sock Puppetry” ''' I have shown examples of crude and offensive language, Insulting other users, and TEUGENE confronting him directly about editing another user's talk page over comments concerning Temp. Temp has also been responsible for a few editing wars in which he was in the wrong.

Temp has committed infractions hundreds of times. His status as a talented editor SHOULD NOT make him immune to consequences as he has been for years.

I am sharing this to ALL active admin in hopes that something will be done, I do not think Temp should be removed from the site, only as an Admin until he can learn to show respect for others.

If nothing is done I will bring this to Wikia's staff attention directly, I have more than enough reason to do so and it could very well result in the removal of several admins as this is clear favoritism. Thank you and good day.

76.177.0.68 04:21, June 18, 2017 (UTC)

Duplicated ME2 N7 Assignments
Hello Elsewyr

The Mass Effect 2 N7 Assignments currently contains duplicate information. Removing the repeated assignments would make the topic easier to understand, as well as make sure new users keep track of their completed missions.

If you have time, could you please take a look at the topic. Specifically, could you determine whether or not this repeated information is necessary?

Thank you for your time.

The Queen 02:03, June 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello-- could you explain what you mean in greater detail? On which page(s) can the duplicate information be found? —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk July 8, 2017, 23:25:57 (UTC)

Unnecassary and unfair block that TemporaryEditor78 gave me
Hi, Elseweyr, I need to report an action that Temporaryeditor78 has done. About a month ago, I was adding information to Urdnot Wreav's page regarding his fate, I used information that I found in the files, but TemporaryEditor78 undid my edit, his reason for doing so was because I had "shit grammar" just because I upper-cased the first letter in the word "krogan", he also told me that my edit was invalid because I was adding information from speculation, which I believe that speculation is allowed on this wikia because the community guidelines says it is okay right here as long as you add a source (which I shouldn't have even needed to do because the information was in the game). I confronted TemporaryEditor78 about the matter, trying to be civil, and his response was shocking, he massively insulted me before blocking me for a whole month for the reason "war editting". As far as I am aware this wikia does not allow this kind of behaviour, as proven here, can you please do something about TemporaryEditor78 for giving me this unfair block and deciding to add the reason as a false one. Also while I am at it, can I just ask why is he even an admin? And why don't you or any of the other admins care about the behaviour he is giving out to users over the smallest edits? I've looked through his edit history and he has given out a TON of aggressive behaviour to many users and it is just sad, can you at least look into why he did what he did to me? Surely you can agree that what he did was unacceptable. --Kryalis (speak) 17:18, July 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but looking into the circumstances around the conflict, I'd have reverted the edits too. The guidelines outline how to go about sourcing in the event that speculation is actually appropriate in that context. In this case the "evidence" is anything but inconclusive, and unfortunately arguing your case in the form of an edit war is a bannable offense on this wiki. If your edit is reverted by an admin, there is usually a good reason for it, but edit warring is to be avoided even if you believe you're in the right. —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk July 16, 2017, 00:13:20 (UTC)

Okay, I see your point on that part of speculation. But can you PLEASE just acknowledge the part where he insults me and then bans me for an entire month? Did that really give him the right? If you were in his position would you have also insulted me just because I misspelled ONE WORD?! Not only that, would you have also banned me for one month over a small bloody edit I did and was trying to prove on? The edit I made did not give TemporaryEditor78 any right at all to insult me and ban me for a month, if it really was that bad then I think a week ban would be necessary, not a whole month! The only reason he blocked me was because I stood up to him after leaving a message to him on his talk page, and so he left that stupid "war editting" reason as an excuse to ban me. Also, I was not "arguing" in my case, I was trying to explain to him why my edit was justified so it could benefit this wiki and was also trying to be civil with him at the same time, so I was not "arguing" at all. Not only that, if "arguing in your defence" is a valid reason to ban someone on this wiki, then why did he leave a different reason to block me? He KNEW I was in the right and knew what he was doing would be wrong so he made up an excuse to block me out of retaliation for what I was trying to prove to him, and no matter what, admins can't retaliate by giving you a block, that is generally frowned upon by the wikia community staff, admins can only really block users for valid reasons, and blocking users for (as you claimed) "arguing" in their own defence is not valid at all, no matter what the guidelines of a wiki on it's own are. And like I linked in the above, the community guidelines on this wiki clearly states: [http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_Wiki:Community_Guidelines#Language ''Abusive language toward other users will also not be tolerated, particularly when it contains profanities or obscenities. When deciding how to respond to an editor's comments, consider how you would speak to a stranger face-to-face in public, as that is effectively what you are doing; if someone takes offense at your language it is best to stop. Violators will be warned, then banned for repeat violations (see below). The only time when otherwise forbidden language is permissible is when directly quoting a Mass Effect character in an article.''] So where in the absolute hell does that give him the right to insult me and block me in retaliation after I tried to reason with him over a simple edit in anyway at all? His reason for doing so is not justified at all, especially when I was trying to be civil with him. --Kryalis (speak) 00:28, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Well? --Kryalis (speak) 17:03, July 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but you've already been very indecent right back, you haven't exactly respected our editing policies, and you've announced that you have no interest in editing this wiki further. Given that we're primarily concerned with this wiki's content and quality as opposed to policing each other's behavior, continuing the discussion doesn't seem worthwhile at this point. —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk July 17, 2017, 21:52:37 (UTC)

Most pathetic excuse I've ever heard in order to avoid answering a question regarding an admin that you have favouritism towards. More reason for me to leave this wikia as it has admins that don't do anything about one another because they have pure favouritism towards each other. It's no wonder this wikia barely has any users that edit. --Kryalis (speak) 07:03, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Elseweyr your clear and blatant violation of this wiki's guideline and Wikia's own Terms of Service has been noted and screenshotted. This has been reported to Wikia staff. Several users are willing to take your place, I would expect your permanent removal as well as Temp's within a month. Truly you have failed this community.

category HNS
Hey Elsie, could you please create a category for Heleus News Service (same as for ANN). Thank you ! --DeldiRe (talk) 09:56, July 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey! How exactly do you mean? A category is automatically created simply by adding to a page. The category page itself doesn't need to exist for the category to be valid. Or am I misunderstanding what you need me to do? —Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk July 20, 2017, 22:30:12 (UTC)

Well, Hello Elsweyr 8)
I have posted quite a few notices that I have checked in talks that noone has commented/added/nemtioned, but after a major brain hemmorage I am sortof dyslectic, I just find some stuff not nemtioned anywhere in this wiki, even in the "talks" and add it, and I notice I have no idea how to add a "header" >:<

I leave it to you and whoever is doing a major favor to everyine playing to "sort out the details" 8)

I actualy have to re-read and correct spelling of every word I post several times, and even then I miss out often, lol.

Life is but a breif encounter and then we die. Have as much fun as you can while it lasts !

Thx for the coninues work on this Wiki 8)