User talk:Lancer1289

Welcome to My Talk Page. If you don't find an issue that you have brought up with me in the past, then please check my archives because I have moved a lot of it to there. However I ask you to NOT edit there, just drop me a new message to bring up the discussion again. To leave me a message, please click on the "Leave message" button above, rather than just editing the whole page. That way I know what to look for. Thanks.

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Question.
So, I think this is a pretty good idea that should be implemented, but I always like to get admin approval. Would it be okay if we added a "Loot" section to walkthrough pages (at least for ME2 and ME3 articles), as it is annoying to have to skim through an entire section to find the info. The reason I ask you is because you are lead of Project Trailblazer.

Additionally, I want to apologize for my activity, or lack of therefor, on project Trailblazer. Had I not been appointed os lead of Chronicler, I think I would have actually attempted to help in Trailblazer.--Legionwrex (talk) 18:59, November 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I am going to be completely opposed to that idea because I see is as a needless waste of space. I have argued this point several times over and my position has not changed. I also haven't been doing much work because I really haven't found anything that really needs to be done. There are only a few things and things that often others will catch because we can't see it or we just overlook it. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:10, November 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay then, I just figured I would present it.--Legionwrex (talk) 19:20, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Blog Oddness
Hey, just wondering if you've been having issues seeing blog posts lately. I'm unable to read them, the posts appear blank and no comments are visible. When I make an edit to a blog post, I can then read it again, but when I exit out of the wiki and return, the problem is back. I think it may be related to a recent update for my browser, but I'm not sure. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:29, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Never mind, the problem was apparently some sort of weird browser plug-in I didn't know I had downloaded. Fixed now. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:54, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've seen this problem before and it is usually an issue with the browser, a plug in, software, or most often a Wikia caching issue. Good to hear that it is resolved, but I just figured I should share that. Lancer1289 (talk) 01:57, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Heads Up.
,This guy has broken multiple policies, including using offensive language and insulting another user.--Legionwrex (talk) 00:08, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked for 3 months. Lancer1289 (talk) 00:37, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good riddance.--Legionwrex (talk) 00:38, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Chat bugs
Hey, several of the users and I have been experiencing bugs in the chatroom, mainly messages not popping up and not being able to type. Can you check it out? Nord Ronnoc (talk) 03:55, November 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please don't report things like this to us as we have no control over them. Things like this should be reported to Wikia staff members as they can do something about it, we can't.
 * On a side note, the only time I want to hear about Chat is when someone brakes rules. If there is a problem with it, I could honestly care less. Lancer1289 (talk) 14:08, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal Alert
An anon user 50.21.187.202 vandalised Milkman's profile.--SolitaryReaper (talk) 16:47, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Character Customization
Hi Lance

Havent been talking lately. Thought I'd pop a message by and just basically say if need me to make a good edit or two on character customization such as powers, tips that sorta stuff, gimme a buzz, been working every Wednesday-Friday providing tips and tricks. After all, I like helping people out with their problems, and I know I've provided quite a few ideas which some people may not have thought of, and I thought, I'd be considerate and give you a reason to "order me about". Hehe, but in all seriousness, you give me a buzz every wednesday afternoon-evening, and I'll see what I can do for you and the community. Ciao JouninOfDespair 18:29, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you have to ask this kind of question, then the answer should be readily apparent. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:58, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

?? Thats not a question, I think thats a statement. Oh I CBA going down that road because that will make things awkward, anyway off to bed after a hard days graft. Oh and its me birthday now on a side note. Bye :) JouninOfDespair 01:13, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

user images control additions/amendments proposal
i'm currently drafting one and i'd like to see your opinion on this. it's basically something that'll place some responsibility on uploaders to tag their images properly while getting rid of seldom-seen irrelevant images tolerated because of "personal space" issues. support the idea, oppose the idea, don't care about the idea, on the fence about the idea, i'll probably post the specifics under projects after some feedback. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 08:40, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * The thing is that people are already supposed to tag images they upload with the relevant category. Lancer1289 (talk) 15:51, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

well, the thing is, if they themselves don't tag their own images properly and leave the tagging to other users (specifically user images), it'll have to go. even if the image is being used on userspaces. cleanup and responsibility are some of the goals here. (MOS doesn't specify who does the tagging, i took that to mean anybody can do it, i'll specify that the uploaders themselves do it mandatorily, among other things) T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 16:10, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually according to Mass Effect Wiki:Files Guideline, and I quote, "Images uploaded for personal use that are not related to Mass Effect must be tagged as such, either when they are uploaded or after the fact." The fact is that I've discovered that people just don't listen at all. Lancer1289 (talk) 16:12, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

so clarify. can anybody just tag some random user's images as User Images or do the uploaders themselves have to do it.

if the latter, then i'll simply undo my attempts at tracking the wiki's old files, let the uploaders do it themselves, then proceed with opening discussions for the second part of the proposal: deletion of nontagged images even when used in userspaces. now that is the part that actually needs scrutinizing since it seeks to amend the statement

"If images are not tagged for personal use when they are uploaded, they will more than likely be put up for deletion and eventually deleted if they are not used or they are missed being placed in a user space."

if the former, same thing really. minus me having to undo taggings sooner. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 16:33, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * If an image is being used in a user space, then it is a user image and counts against the limit if it meets the guidelines as such. If it isn't being used in a user space, then it isn't a user image and shouldn't be placed in that category. If it isn't being used, then it really don't matter. I really see no reason to do anything to it anyway since again I've noticed that people here don't seem to listen to guidelines like that anyway. Lancer1289 (talk) 17:00, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

i did just list "files cleanup" and "uploader responsibility" as part of the reasons for doing this. a couple of others: obviously there's a bunch of utterly irrelevant images on the wiki just sitting here and i'm even willing to do all the hunting for such things (hint: i did some months back and as i said it's a nightmare. and actual deletion is about one of the only things remaining).
 * easier future organization (retroactive cataloguing is always a nightmare and deletion of noncompliant files even if ostensibly used in userspaces should force policy compliance to some degree),
 * increased awareness of site policies (of course),
 * forcible duplicate elimination (why upload the same thing for "personal use" when it already exists on the wiki - this and this, and one of them is protected from deletion simply because "it's in use"),
 * forcible undesirable images elimination (let's face it we get one-time users who upload irrelevant stuff and scram never to return. this and this),
 * bandwidth saving (probably negligible for wikia but still, storage and bandwidth does cost money).

tl;dr: pruning.T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 18:09, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I really just can't see the point of most of this. I really could care less if there are unused images on the wiki since they aren't doing any harm. We ask people to read policies, yet some people just won't or don't care. No matter how much we will push them, unless we put them on every page, there is really nothing we can do to increase awareness since people don't read them anyway. As to duplicates, well that has to be caught and the lower res one deleted. The undesirable image deletion is something I'm against, since if it is usable, then there is no harm, but if it isn't, they are typically tagged anyway. The last point is really irrelevant since there are wikis that are many times our size. There are some good points, but most of this is either really unnecessary, contrary to some other things, or something that we just can't do anything about. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:03, November 17, 2012 (UTC)