User blog comment:Ralok/Halo Fans continue to impress (sarcasm intended)/@comment-24.15.154.242-20101121182325

Go to the Bungie universe forums and read the theories posted by a guy named Wolverfrog. The ammount of story that goes into the Halo universe is so vast that most people can't comprehend it (such as yourself).

There are more referances to Precursors then you think, the terminals, the cryptic messages in the Iris campaign, the Halo Legends episode "Babysitter" ruins are confirmed to not be Forerunner, I could go on.

With Halo, unlike most any other story I've ever seen, you actually have to THINK your way through the story rather then just watch the pretty colors on the screen and have the story throw the answers out at you.

read it and be enlightened to your ignorance of incredible story telling

"All throughout the Halo trilogy, we have been led to believe there is a connection between the Forerunners and Humanity. For example, Halo can only be fired by a human, 343 Guilty Spark recognises humanity as "Reclaimers," naming the Covenant as 'Meddlers.' The terminals also imply a deep connection.

Now, many have speculated that Forerunners are humans, yet more advanced. Some believe that Forerunners adopted us as their heirs. There are a fair few crazy theories out there, most, if not all, basically stating that humans are in some way descended from Forerunners.

Now I approach you with a different outlook. What if humanity were not descended from the Forerunners, but what if they were, in fact, the fabled Precursors' last legacy?

First, I'll dismiss the argument that 343 Guilty Spark says "You are Forerunner," to John-117 by saying this -

Spark has always been confused, in Combat Evolved, he believed you were the Forerunner who activated Halo the first time around. In the Bestarium, it makes mention that all of Spark's observations are 'Under Investigation', whereas Tangent's (Monitor of Installation 05) observations are all confirmed.

Now I know what you're thinking: "Wolverfrog, you nutter! They can't be precursors, that's impossible!"

But is it really? Let's start by taking a look at what the word 'Reclaimer' really means. To recover, to reclaim what was once yours. Now I don't see why the Forerunners would attribute humanity with such a term, it wouldn't make sense if humans are supposed to be the adopted race of the Forerunners. However, assuming hypothetically that humanity are in fact the last remnant of the Precursors, it would make sense. A safe thing to assume would be that Forerunner technology is based off Precursor technology, much in the same way that the Covenant base their technology off the Forerunners.

Now if that is the case, then it would make sense that the Forerunners would name the humans 'Reclaimer', to inherit, and regain all that they lost.

In the terminals, the Librarian, love of the Didact, refers to Earth as Eden, and a place of wonder. Iris, the Halo 3 ARG, also has a little to say on this.

The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.

Now you see, it is talking about Earth, and the 'unique denizens' are humanity. It leaves you with the questions, why must we be researched? What answers can we give to the Forerunners? Surely simply being chosen by the Forerunners to carry on their work in the event that they perish does not grant us this amount of awe?

I believe that Earth is a Precursor world, perhaps their home world. At the very height of their power, the precursors were the dominant force throughout the universe. However, due to unknown reasons, they vanished, passing down a mantle to their chosen race to continue their legacy: the Forerunners.

However, what if the Precursors had not been wiped out, but in fact, merely faded away, realising that omniscience was a terrible burden. A likely scenario is that the Precursors encountered the Flood, which would make the Flood much like the Reapers in Mass Effect; they wipe out cultures once they are advanced enough. The Flood could have forced the Precursors back into hiding, where they lost all their technology. Eventually, perhaps only one world, Earth, remained, and so eventually the Precursors had lost all of their knowledge and power, and became what we know today as humanity.

I know you think a species 'devolving' seems unlikely, but I will direct you here to the case of the Brutes. At one point in their history, they were as advanced as the Covenant, until a civil war threw them back into the industrial age. Something similar of this sort could have happened to the Precursors.

In the sixth terminal, the Librarian states this to the Didact.

We knew this was a special place because of them, but unless you've been here, you can't know.

Now that seems to be good proof. She is calling Earth a special place because of them. Just who are 'them?' Humanity springs to mind, but what if she was talking about the Precursors?

It's a long shot, but it's an option, one that I believe. I've probably missed out a lot, I shall scourer the terminals again and make necessary edits. Thanks for reading, please voice your opinion.

Update 1.2

(I had this all neatly typed up, but it got deleted by a posting error. So forgive me if some of this update doesn't make sense, it's late at night and I'm kind of tired.)

Reach is situated within the Epsilon Eridani system, a mere 10.5 lightyears from the Sol System, and it's closest neighbouring system.

Now, let's go with the idea that Earth was in fact, the Precursor homeworld.

Once they had achieved space exploration level, it's likely the first system they would have discovered is the Epsilon Eridani system. The Precursors would have also discovered Reach, and probably inhabited it.

Now let's jump to First Strike. Halsey and the Spartans discover a network of what they believe to be 'Forerunner caverns' underneath the ONI CASTLE facility. Inside these ruins, they discover a crystal, which can bend space and time. It seems awfully advanced, even for the Forerunners.

Now, what if the Forerunners hadn't built the caverns and crystal, but the Precursors had?

I'm not just thinking up random ideas as I go along though. What I find unlikely is that the Forerunners would have discovered Reach, but a few light years away from Earth, and have the time to construct caverns and house a ridiculously advanced crystal within, yet not discover Earth and humanity until a short time before activating Halo. Why would they waste time constructing such a complex when they were faced with extinction?

My opinion is that the Precursors built it. Which is why, when Fred 104 touches the glyphs on the complex, he gets a 'Frustratingly familiar' feeling, as if he's seen them before. Genetic instincts perhaps, from humanity's Precursor ancestors? Simply becoming Reclaimers of the Forerunners wouldn't give humanity instinctive knowledge of how their technology works. And if the Forerunners based all their technology off of the Precursors relics they had discovered, it would explain why the Master Chief sub conciously could activate the various devices upon Halo.

And, running along with this idea that Reach had been colonised by the Precursors, what if every UNSC Colony world which had mysterious 'Forerunner artefacts' were in fact, also Precursor?

Perhaps humanity was merely following in their Precursors ancestors ancient footsteps, as they themselves first ventured into the Galactic beyond.

Update 2.0

Oh Lord, this is all too perfect. The first Halo Legends episode, The Babysitter was released, and it speaks volumes for this theory.

The ODSTs have a mission alongside a Spartan to assassinate a Prophet at some unknown alien ruins.

Cortez, the ODST squad leader, at some point in the mission briefing says:

"The architecture is not Covenant design and it sure as hell wasn't built by humans. It pre-dates both sides."

As I was watching this I nodded along and thought, 'Forerunner'. That's what it pointed to right? Perhaps not.

Later on when we actually see these ruins, they sure look confusing. It actually looks more like human ancient Japanese design than Forerunner. Naturally, everyone is complaining about it, saying it isn't Forerunner. And perhaps it isn't. Perhaps it is Precursor.

Now let's say, back in the day, the Precursors built some structures like that, with that design. They colonise the planet their human descendants (Remember the greater theory) walk upon hundreds of thousands of years later. And they build these ruins.

Now what if, in the Haloverse, Japanese building designs were inspired by ancient Precursor blueprints that the ancient Japanese discovered? What if those ruins on the planet in The Babysitter are in fact meant to look like they do? Not Forerunner ruins, but Precursor.

Also, the statues inside the ruins show what seem to be animals usually found on Earth. And who do we theorise do originate from Earth? That's right, the Precursors. If the Forerunners had built the ruins, then surely they would have images of their Gods, not animals.

In other words:

- Precursors colonise planet, build ruins we see in The Babysitter.

- Precursors then become humanity after catastrophic event.

- Halo is fired by Forerunners.

- Precursor remnants (humans) repopulate Earth.

- Ancient Japanese discover incredibly old Precursor building blueprints, design their buildings in the same way.

- ODST squad and Spartan in The Babysitter discover these ancient ruins, Halo fans cry out "But they're not Forerunner!"

- Because they aren't. They're Precursor"

this too

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33340499

to long a theory to post here, but thoroughly read this and Wolverfrog's theory (above) and understand just what your Halo fan was talking about

also, you're seriously going to use "precursor to referance forerunner artifacts" as an argument, when, in regards to that time, no one knew what the artifact was and considered that it could be from a precursor to the Covenant? That was just a random stab in the dark suggestion? (hint: precursor means those that came before)

Your logic fails.