User blog comment:Ironreaper/Did Shepard leave Ceberus./204.210.207.90-20100915194803/@comment-204.210.207.90-20100916200102

SpartHaug- you said "And seriously, people, I think TIM is getting a bit of a bad wrap on the whole Pragia thing. I mean, he's done horrible things. No denying that. He should be held accountable for them, but not for things he didn't do. And it seems pretty clear that even he had no idea what the (bleep) was going on at the Teltin facility. If he had known, the staff wouldn't have been leaving nervous log entries about how TIM was getting suspicious. Holding him responsible for that is literally like holding the Alliance responsible for Cerberus' actions."

I just have one question- have you read the newest book Mass Effect: Retribution? Only a monster would do that to another human being knowing full well what would happen and that the "subject" would have to be terminated at the end of the experiment. Cerberus is Mass Effects verison of the Nazi Party of the early 1930s. They are a splinter group of the millitary who believe in nothing more than the ends justify the means, and if they have half a chance would grab total power of the Alliance turning it into a total dictatorship (just like Cerberus). The Nazis also believed that unspeakable experiments were justified as long as progress was made. Heck the holocaust and concentration camps of Nazi Germany were horrible, but we reap the rewards of their "experiments" every time we go to the doctors office. The experiments carried out on Jews and prisioners of war advanced medicine 50-100 years but with horrendous results. Saying Cerberus and thus the Illusive Man who is the supreme dictator of Cerberus isnt evil is like saying the Nazis were just missunderstood and were not that bad. Hitler didn't carry out every horrible act he was guilty of and didn't even know about some of the atrocities that was carried out by the SS - he gave the broad order, said get it done and the SS soldiers did it- im sure he didn't spell out exactly what to do step by step, but because he gave the broad order, funded the project, and sent in the personal he was guilty just like the Illusive Man is guilty for kidnapping a children, sending them to a facility he set up and funded and manned with his men. He wanted a near perfect biotic, he didn't care how they achieved the result. I'm sure though that Hitler just got a bum rap too right?

Advancing technology and science through whatever means necessary is never a good thing, and always has a ton of collateral damage.