User talk:Lancer1289

Welcome to My Talk Page. If you don't find an issue that you have brought up with me in the past, then please check my archives because I have moved a lot of it to there. However I ask you to NOT edit there, just drop me a new message to bring up the discussion again. To leave me a message, please click on the "Leave message" button above, rather than just editing the whole page. That way I know what to look for. Thanks.

Please do leave me a new message unless there is a conversation that is already in progress that you wish to comment on. If you have a question that has no bearing on a conversation that is under a heading, then please don't edit there. Just leave me a new message. For example, if you see a section called Help, but your question doesn't relate to what the conversation was about, then PLEASE don't edit in that section, just leave me a new message. The comments will be moved to the end and I'll create a new section for it.

About darn time...
Hey Lancer,

Been nearly two weeks since you last logged in. You feel you're behind the spat between yourself and Dammej? Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 21:04, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * No offense intended, but that is something that personal and I'd rather not discuss it. Lancer1289 21:38, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Spelling
Sorry about that. I won't do it again, I promise!

D^=

CoffeeShopFrank 05:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read the top of my talk page as I don't like cross page conversations. I do ask people to respond to any message I leave on their talk page to make things not only easy to follow, but reduce clutter. Lancer1289 05:10, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

C'mon
Dude, c'mon. That was a legit picture and I was working on the size. please leave it alone
 * No it wasn't as it is quite small, low quality, and a grainy image. Also see your talk page as you haven't answered a question I left. Lancer1289 21:02, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again...
I was just wondering about what I needed to do to delete my signature page since I plan to use a standard signature and therefore no longer need a custom signature page. I had left you a message on your talk page earlier on Saturday asking about having my signature page deleted, but since I haven't received a reply, I was just wondering if I need to do anything in order to have the page deleted. Again, I'm sorry to bother you about this, but I didn't know who else to ask since I'm still new to the Mass Effect Wiki. If you could please help me with this problem, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. BicycleCat ( talk ) 23:38, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well you could have asked any of the other admins as I've been off for a week, but I can take care of that now. Lancer1289 02:53, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * He could have if he'd been aware that you were "off for a week". However, given that he's a brand new editor, and that none of us knew why you were gone, for how long, etc, (see User talk:SpartHawg948), perhaps cutting BicycleCat some slack is in order? SpartHawg948 06:02, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Missing Title #1
Hi,

I'm Wikia staff and just editing blogs written by other Wikia staff with their permission.

Thanks for your inquiry.

Bchwood 20:29, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Edits
Hey I was just wondering if edits in the "Trivia" section can be deleted for speculation, as some of mine have. And they are substantial. Thanks!
 * (edit conflict) Trivia items can be deleted on that premise if it can't be supported with what they have listed. However you state that many of your edits have been reverted, yet this is your only edit here, so which edits in particular are you talking about? Lancer1289 06:41, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've been a regular Mass Effect Wikia visitor for about a year now. I've never felt the need to create an account, so that's the reason for having only one edit. I just edited the Conrad Verner page in the trivia section. I thought it was pretty clever. I realise I mistakenly left out part of the title. I was just wondering why the rest of the post was deleted.
 * The Conrad Verner page hasn't been edited in about two days now, so I'm guessing you are referring to the edit to the Citadel: The Fan page. The post was removed for a good reason, it was name trivia, which by our standards, isn't trivia without support, and like visual comparisons, generally more than most trivia. The support cited was a stretch at best as it only takes part of the title, and is about a "crazed" fan. There are plenty of things about "crazed" fans of anything, and the plot of the movie also don't lend much, if any, support to it. This is just another case of name trivia, where something has the same name, but the connection is merely a coincidence. If you want to prove it, then I recommend going to the BioWare forums and getting devconfirmation on it as that is the more than likely only way it is going to get in. Lancer1289 07:01, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. Only one more thing, how will I know who to ask for confirmation?
 * You can ask directly for a dev to comment, sometimes it works, but in order for it to go in, you need a dev, someone who has a "BioWare" tag on their profile which shows up below their Avatar when they comment in the forums. Anyone else, and that isn't enough. Also note that this has to be independently verifiable, meaning that you get an email/private message and saying that you did means nothing as we can't see that and that isn't a source. It needs to be something we can see and that we can verify so a forum page is the only way in this case. Lancer1289 15:52, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

When to place the Inactive User category?
Hey Lancer,

Just wondering what the criteria is for categorizing a user as an inactive user? If the time since the last post is 60 days or more, for example, does that warrant me or any other user to edit a profile page with the inactive user category (and ONLY that), or are Admins the only ones authorized to do this? Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 00:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there is no established policy, probably because the category doesn’t exist, but there is a policy about categorizing user pages, as in we don't permit categories on user pages. The only circumstances anyone is permitted to edit the user page of another is to remove vandalism, or an admin can if they have left a message asking the user to remove something and they wait a week. So the answer to your question is no, you are not permitted to do that. If you wish to make a proposal about creating categories like this, then you know where to go. Lancer1289 00:56, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Auto-refresh 2
I've heard you know how to add an auto-refresh feature to special wiki activity page. If true, would you please tell me how to do so? I would love to enable it on the answers wiki. Mitranim 16:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delayed response, but I was working on something and wanted to finish it, I had to eat lunch, and finally I had to look up what you were looking for. What you need to do is copy the text below, don't hit edit, on the page or this section, just copy the code, and place it into your "MediWiki:Common.js" page. Just don't include the quotes when you are putting it in the search bar. If you do hit edit, don't include the and  tags.

/* * ADVANCED AJAX AUTO-REFRESHING ARTICLES */ var indicator = 'http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/dev/images/8/82/Facebook_throbber.gif'; if (!window.ajaxPages) ajaxPages = new Array("Special:RecentChanges","Special:WikiActivity"); if (!window.ajaxCallAgain) ajaxCallAgain = []; var ajaxTimer; var ajaxRefresh = 60000; var refreshText = 'Auto-Refresh'; if( typeof AjaxRCRefreshText == "string" ) { refreshText = AjaxRCRefreshText ; } var refreshHover = 'Click the box to enable auto-refreshing of the page'; if( typeof AjaxRCRefreshHoverText == "string" ) { refreshHover = AjaxRCRefreshHoverText; } var doRefresh = true; function setCookie(c_name,value,expiredays) { var exdate=new Date exdate.setDate(exdate.getDate+expiredays) document.cookie=c_name+ "=" +escape(value) + ((expiredays==null) ? "" : ";expires="+exdate.toGMTString) } function getCookie(c_name) { if (document.cookie.length>0) { c_start=document.cookie.indexOf(c_name + "=") if (c_start!=-1) { c_start=c_start + c_name.length+1 c_end=document.cookie.indexOf(";",c_start) if (c_end==-1) c_end=document.cookie.length return unescape(document.cookie.substring(c_start,c_end)) } } return "" } function preloadAJAXRL { ajaxRLCookie = (getCookie("ajaxload-"+wgPageName)=="on") ? true:false; appTo = ($("#WikiaPageHeader").length)?$("#WikiaPageHeader"):$(".firstHeading"); appTo.append(' ' + refreshText + ':   '); $("#ajaxLoadProgress").ajaxSend(function (event, xhr, settings){ if (location.href == settings.url) $(this).show; }).ajaxComplete (function (event, xhr, settings){ if (location.href == settings.url) {$(this).hide; for(i in ajaxCallAgain){ajaxCallAgain[i]};} }); $("#ajaxToggle").click(toggleAjaxReload); $("#ajaxToggle").attr("checked", ajaxRLCookie); if (getCookie("ajaxload-"+wgPageName)=="on") loadPageData; } function toggleAjaxReload { if ($("#ajaxToggle").attr("checked") == true) { setCookie("ajaxload-"+wgPageName, "on", 30); doRefresh = true; loadPageData; } else { setCookie("ajaxload-"+wgPageName, "off", 30); doRefresh = false; clearTimeout(ajaxTimer); } } function loadPageData { var cC = ($("#WikiaArticle").length)?"#WikiaArticle":"#bodyContent"; $(cC).load(location.href + " " + cC + " > *", function (data) { if (doRefresh) ajaxTimer = setTimeout("loadPageData;", ajaxRefresh); }); } $(function { for (x in ajaxPages) { if (wgPageName == ajaxPages[x] && $("#ajaxToggle").length==0) preloadAJAXRL; } });

I hope this helps. Lancer1289 18:07, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Worked like a charm, it did the thing instantly, both for wiki activity and recent changes. You have my gratitude, this will save a freakload of F5s. Thanks! ^_^ Mitranim 18:16, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Your welcome. It was something that you will find easier as now you can just leave your computer open and work on something else, and just glace over every now and then. I do like the system because of that, no more button mashing. Lancer1289 18:19, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's the whole reason for me. When you have a need to keep track of every edit, it's pretty much a necessity. Thanks again! Mitranim 18:24, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Perhaps I might stop by the answers site again and see what can be done. I did a while ago, but I haven't in a while. It's something to think about for me. Lancer1289 18:27, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello again! The feature broke about a day ago in some browsers, and I see you updated the corresponding section of MediaWiki:Common.js, apparently to fix it. ^^ Wouldn't you mind telling me if there are any wiki-specific parts of the new code, or it can be just copy-pasted like the old one? Thanks! Mitranim 05:05, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * (Edit) Noticed a link to the source on DevWiki, I'll try to look it up there. ^^ Mitranim 05:13, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delayed response, but yes if you go to the dev wiki, Gunny updated the script due to a Wikia update. Just copy the new stuff and you should be fine. Lancer1289 05:30, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer. I've gone with the import feature with additional variables, and it indeed works. You should try it too, might save a hassle of rewriting the section if something breaks in the future! Mitranim 07:24, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well whatever you prefer in this case then. Lancer1289 17:23, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Quick note
Just a quick note: headers in forums and talk pages do not, strictly speaking, constitute "comments". For example, if I leave a comment on a talk page, under a headline I create, the comment is mine, but the headline isn't. If there is a spelling error or some such, it can be edited by someone else. I can cite precedent, if you like, most notably one from a while back on my talk page. So, for example, IP 74.240.16.119 did not violate cite policy by changing the improperly spelled headline reading "Heritics Revision" on Talk:Geth to the correctly spelled "Heretics Revision". Thanks, SpartHawg948 19:42, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I thought they did, but I guess not. I'll remove the comment then. Lancer1289 20:41, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

hi from Technobliterator
Hiya, it's Technobliterator. You may remember me, as the one who proposed templates adding. Well I just popped in to say that I haven't forgotten about the wiki or the proposal. I think as a way to put the idea forward, I'll go about it in a different way; would a Special:Chat meeting be any good? Also, I'd still like to improve the articles any way I can, I feel bad for yet editing the wiki much.--Technobliterator 17:36, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I personally think the problem was the topic wasn't focused enough, or specific enough, to get people interested. For an example, there is currently a discussion to overhaul the Cluster Templates, and that is quite specific. If you have a proposal, then don't get us wrong, we're all ears, but again I do personally think the problem was it was just a general topic, one that didn't have a lot of focus. What you need to identify is something specific, and then work on it as that seems to be how things generally get done. Broad topics usually die out as there really isn't anything specific, which I can point to another two examples, the Forum:Updating the ME2 Enemy info box, a forum used to update the infoboxes you see on the enemies from Mass Effect 2, and Forum:Infobox for Mass Effect enemies, which was used to create the current infobox for Mass Effect enemies. Don't feel bad about not editing, we all have days where we don't, but again, if you find something specific then make a proposal, which again I think was the problem last time, not specific enough. Lancer1289 18:48, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Well my issue is that to be specific, I'd have to create the infoboxes in the first place to show exactly what I meant. Without access to MediaWiki pages, I'm not able to create them on this wiki to show. Do you have any alternatives? And well, I've just achieved sysop rights on SporeWiki, which is the reason I haven't yet been able to properly contribute to the wiki, although with this idea I'm hoping to do that.-Technobliterator 21:52, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe create a box on that site, and then just link it here. It's just again, you need to be specific as the previous attempt was way to broad and tried to do to many things at once, not to mention the lack of visual examples probably didn't help. Again I can suggest that you perhaps create them at the spore wiki, or maybe even set up a test wiki, I think asking the staff about that wouldn't be a bad idea, and then just provide the links. Lancer1289 23:16, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see, I'd be better off doing that. Should I make an entirely new forum containing the new visual example? I think first I'll just stick with doing a character infobox, and with that in place we'd already have the meta-templates, with the next step being where to go from there with the meta-template. After that, I'd go on to one for the navbox. Does that sound like a good way of doing things, with more specification?--Technobliterator 23:20, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * You might encounter problems with the words "meta-template". That caused a lot of confusion last time, I still believe it does, I don't remotely understand it, and the same goes to a lot of other people as well. That really needs to be explained better and perhaps you can get more support for it because again, it is a very confusing topic. If you want to overhaul the Character template, then my recommendation is to just expand on what is already there, and avoid the meta-template, because it probably was one of the main reason that interest was lost because it wasn't explained very well, and the system you proposed for changing every template on the wiki didn't go over very well either for that reason. If you can find a way to explain it better, then that can only help you case, but people generally don't go for things if they don't know what is going on, and especially when something is proposed to replace something, and it can't be explained very well.
 * You keep trying to push the meta-templates, without explaining them well, or giving a good example of it. If you can again find a good way of expalining it, or finding a good example, or at least one abotu ten times better than the ones you previously linked and demonstrated, would be a good idea because as soon as you start talking about it, you might lose a lot of people right there as the concept isn't explained. Again I would just recommend expanding on the current template as you will probably get a lot less fuss over it.
 * As to a new forum, that would probably be best, but wait on creating it until you have something to propose. And some helpful advice on that front, don't put the forum, and then start working on it, as that is generally how things die around here, and quickly I might add. I would also recommend making a sandbox page for the example, then linking that for two reasons; one, that is how things have worked in the past; and two, because that way it falls under the user space protection policy, which means that no one but you can edit it, unless you give others permission to do so, which is probably a good thing. Lancer1289 23:38, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I don't really know how to explain meta-template besides that it's a template for a template. So if I have Template:Infobox, and I make Template:Infobox character, then Template:Infobox character will be using the contents of Template:Infobox. Some examples: w:c:spore:Template:Infobox & w:c:spore:Template:Infobox creature. This allows for consistency & ease in creating new templates. If I implemented it here, I could overhaul the existing infoboxes to use the meta-templates, if even agreed it proved better than the original system. I'm not sure how better to explain it. Sadly, the meta-templates we use on SporeWiki make it so easy I actually struggle with editing templates which don't use a meta-templates. :P
 * I'll get something to propose as soon as I can, and I'll await your reply here. If you say that it's good, then I'll put it forward in a new forum.--Technobliterator 09:58, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I must have overlooked this earlier, apologies. Anyway I do again think that trying to propose Mega-Templates again will cause a lot of hang-ups, especially when you are proposing overhauling everything, which would require a separate proposal altogether. Whether intentional or not, that implies a time consuming process and not everyone was for that, and I doubt they will be this time around. We have templates that do work, and work well, and the thought of replacing them, with something that may not work as well, is something of a catching issue. Right now I would again advice you to just work with what is already in the template and expand on it and don't bring in a meta-template as it will more than likely again cause problems as it again can't be explained very well. I'm not trying to make this difficult, I'm just rereading everything in the previous forum, and there wasn't a lot of support because it couldn't be explained very well, and right now, just working with the current system is probably the bets thing as it will prevent problems and people not supporting it because it will overall imply a new standard, that in all honesty may not work well here. Not to mention infobox is a very broad term and not specific enough for people here. So just to say it again, just stick with what is there, expand on that, and unless you can explain the meta-templates better, just leave it out. Actually, it probably would be best to leave it out all together for now as you are proposing overhauling every template, which would require a lot of work, and a completely separate proposal. Just work on and expand on the character template and leave out the meta-template as it could cause you more problems than it would solve. Lancer1289 00:06, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Ok, so I'll work on a new version of the character template with what we currently have. I see what you're getting at; it was probably much too soon to propose overhauling every template. Hmm... if I later propose usage of the meta-template afterwards, shall I call it a Base Template, and not claim to overhaul everything so soon? I think that'd be better. Anyway, I'll propose it on a forum soon as I get round to it, using a link to a sub page of my userpage for a sandbox of it, as a new character infobox. I'll then introduce the base template. Does that sound good with you?--Technobliterator 19:00, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think changing the name will do anything as you again have to explain what you are doing and it won't take long for people to draw the connection. If you propose anywhere in that forum to overhaul every template, or even more than the character one, then you will not get any support. Overhauling every template will require a separate proposal and, more than likely, a lot of separate proposals. Just working with what we have is a good idea, and it will more than likely get you more support, and if you really want to keep pushing the meta-templates, then that is up to you, but I don't think you get very far. Lancer1289 16:06, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * All right, I still think pushing meta-templates is a good idea, however. I'll make the character tempalte with what we already have first, thoguh. Can you send me a message on my talk page in a day or two to remind me to come here and work on my new version of the character infobox?--Technobliterator 17:19, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll try to remember, but I seem to have a selective memory at times. Lancer1289 17:38, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Redlink Guideline Clarification
I looked for our guideline regarding removal of red-links in pages but could not find anything in the Mass Effect Wiki:Community Guidelines or Mass Effect Wiki:Manual of Style (although the latter should not mention it) and could not find anything regarding this issue. The policy forum post only apply to pages in user space - so what is the guideline regarding red-links in the Main namespace talk pages? --silverstrike 12:41, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * It actually applies to anywhere on the site, "Administrators of the wiki will be allowed to remove all red links (wanted links: categories, files, pages, templates) from user pages, talk pages, and wherever else any red link may appear across the wiki." However as the policy says, only admins, meaning Spart, myself, Commdor, and JakePT, may actually remove the links. You cannot remove the links as you are not an admin. If there are any further questions, I'll try to answer them. Lancer1289 15:50, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I understood the part about the admin status from the forum post, but wasn't sure to what the rules apply - someone should update the guideline page to include this. --silverstrike 16:18, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Red-links in talk pages
Hey Lancer, I was just going through Special:WantedPages and Special:WantedFiles and noticed that most of the red-links listed are from talk pages or user space. I wanted to notify the users, but the issue is that after the week has passed, I still don't have the right permission to remove the links.

So, I thought about listing the relevant pages that have red-links in them in a somewhat orginized way to help track them. Now, I didn't know if I should open a new topic on the projects forum or just leave them on a random admin talk page.

The table list the pages where the red-link is found and the link itself. If you think that such a table is a good idea, then I'll continue to update it (currently it only lists the wanted files) and add a column for date when the user was notified (when applicable).

So, What do you think? And should I move this to another more appropriate place? --silverstrike 17:58, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well first I would like this table off my talk page, as I really don't need this here. As to a page in the projects forum, considering only four people can do this, I personally think that is inappropriate and wouldn't accomplish much as it could give people the wrong impression. As to who to contact instead, I would suggest Commdor as he is the one who initially opened the forum on the issue, has pushed for this issue in the past, and has been more proactive with this in the past. I really don't care about this issue as there are so few wanted anything, in terms of red links, that it is a low priority for me. Again, I would suggest contacting Commdor about this given his experience in this issue and the fact he is the one who pushed for it. Lancer1289 18:25, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not replying sooner, I just didn't really know how to take your response - it seemed a little harsh (to put it lightly) and uncalled for, but I'll take it as me reading too much into it. I commented out the table and will remove it shortly after (and if) I find a better location for it. --silverstrike 20:03, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * You are reading too much into it. I had a list on my talk page, that I didn't even know what I was supposed to do with. Not to mention, I really didn't want it here as it would have no doubt just gotten larger and smaller over time, and I would have had to be dealing with it on a constant basis, until eventually, I would have said to take it somewhere else. That is not something I remotely wanted to deal with, the annoying "You have a new message" popup every 10 minutes with this. I would suggest a sandbox for making the list, and then talk to Commdor about it since he is the one who was proposed the policy. Lancer1289 16:12, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I moved the table to the wiki sandbox and I'll talk with Commdor about dealing with it. --silverstrike 17:10, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Lancer1289 17:11, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect how exactly?
RE: Arc Projector

How exactly is listing Cerberus as a manufacturer incorrect? when it states in the E-mail from the Illusive Man that: "Our operatives waged a highly successful battle against a geth scouting party and credited their success to a new advanced electrical attack device that we finally let them take out of the lab." (which is enough evidence that it was Cerberus that developed and manufactured the weapon)
 * No it isn't as that indicates that they did research on it, but it doesn't say they developed and manufacture the weapon. They could have gotten the plans from elsewhere and then adapted it, but that still doesn't remotely mean they are the manufacturer. Bottom line, there is no concrete proof that Cerberus designed and built the weapon. Lancer1289 06:04, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I see, thanks for clearing that up. :)
 * Yes, it does mean that Cerberus is the manufacturer. Weapons that are one-of-a-kind, which it is HEAVILY IMPLIED that the Arc Projector is unique, are not built in factories; they're built in R&D labs. Such labs are what the Illusive Man is referring to.SlayerEGO1342 14:32, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * And once again you show up. I'm beyond now thinking this is a coincidence as this has happened way too many times. I think you regularly patrol my edits, then voice your opinions against me for whatever reason. You always show up in instances like this, and like I said, this has happened too often to be a coincidence or random acts of chance. I really think you have it out for me for whatever reason and until you are right, you won't give up, which you aren't in this case, yet again. I was acutally thinking as I went to bed last night, will he show up, and low and behold, you are here.
 * As to the issue again, "heavily implied" doesn't mean manufactured. Where's your beyond a reasonable doubt that Cerberus manufactures the weapon, developed the weapon, or anything else? Again, bottom line, there is no concrete proof, and you saying what you are, will not change that. If you want it to say Cerberus, then go and get some proof, because you don't have it. And no amount of leaving messages saying "heavily implied" will change that. Either get proof, or stop arguing it because site policy is that it has to be stated beyond a reasonable doubt, and there is still doubt in this case. Lancer1289 18:41, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * "...has to be stated beyond a reasonable doubt." In all honesty, the point I'm trying to make here is that your doubt is unreasonable. SlayerEGO1342 19:14, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * No your proof is not beyond a reasonable doubt. I will not argue this any further, you don't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and until you get that, this will go nowhere as there is no proof beyond a reasonable doubt. So either go and get that proof, or stop leaving message which just continue to point out you don't have proof. Lancer1289 19:17, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why doesn't reasonable doubt count as proof? SlayerEGO1342 19:22, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There are portions of the email which imply that the Arc Projector may be unique, but there are other portions implying production on some scale, which would mean it isn't unique. And while you are correct that unique weapons are often built in the R&D labs, once production on any sort of scale takes place, it's usually done somewhere other than the lab. And from what we've seen, Cerberus seems to favor outsourcing its weapons. Anywho, there is, to be sure, absolutely nothing in the in-game material confirming that Cerberus is the manufacturer of the Arc Projector. For all we know, the R&D lab that produced it could be a lab at Cord-Hislop Aerospace or some other Cerberus-affiliated corporation, as opposed to Cerberus itself. SpartHawg948 19:23, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * As for why reasonable doubt doesn't count as proof, that should be a no-brainer. If there is reasonable cause to doubt the truthfulness of something, it isn't proof. It's pretty much the entire basis of trial-by-jury. SpartHawg948 19:25, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, SpartHawg, that was very helpful. I only doubted that Cerberus wasn't the manufacturer because it DID, seemingly as a prototype/one-of-a-kind weapon, come from Cerberus. I say it's on its own in this world because the Illusive Man never uses plurals in describing it. SlayerEGO1342 19:28, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Missing Title #2
Noveria: Peak 15 Article

Sorry about that I was trying to make a link for Alestia Iallis for Noveria: Peak 15, but i didn't already see that there was a link for her and i forgot to take that one off.
 * Yet again, my simple request at the top of the page, where the edit button and the "leave message" button are, gets ignored again. Lancer1289 02:50, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just a suggestion: you can create a clearly seen link (or a button) on top of the page that will function as the "leave message" button. something like: . --silverstrike 20:43, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * You could have just left the code and I could have looked at it in preview to see if I liked it. I don't need an example of something when the code is here. As to the suggestion, maybe, but I don't even like how it looks and I removed the example as again, I could have just looked at it in preview and decide if I liked it or not. Lancer1289 15:59, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Pinnacle Station: Convoy, Pulse Rifle X
Just to let you know, i think (at least) the PC version may be bugged in regards to Pulse Rifle X (assuming that in the Xbox version Pulse Rifle X looks like a geth rifle and has no upgrade slots) Because in my game of ME1 (With BDTS and Pinnacle Station installed nothing else) the Geth Armory Pulse Rifle X looks like this: Pulse Rifle X Pic Hope this helps :) --203.219.138.147 06:13, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Jutland the "only major naval engagement"?
Just throwing in my two cents here... I've never heard of the Battle of Jutland being described as the only major naval engagement of WWI. It was the largest, to be sure, and it was the only "full-scale" battle involving battleships from both sides, but there were many major naval battles in WWI. One of my all-time favorites was the first major naval battle of the war, the Battle of Coronel, in which the German East Asia Squadron mauled a British fleet, sinking two armored cruises and killing over 1,500 men. There's also the Battle of Dover Strait (60 ships total), the Battle of Dogger Bank (a major clash between German and British battlecruisers, 73 ships total), the Battle of the Falkland Islands (the aforementioned German East Asia Squadron being completely wiped out by a British fleet), the Battle of Moon Sound (an oft-overlooked battle between the Germans and Russians), the Scarborough Raid, and a major though unnamed action fought on 19 August, 1916 between 29 battleships, six battlecruisers, and various escorts of the Royal Navy, and 18 battleships, two battlecruisers, and escorts of the High Seas Fleet.

Basically, the point I'm trying to make here is that, as any student of WWI at sea can tell you, there were many major naval battles. The only way Jutland is the only major battle of the war is if we set the definition of "major" incredibly high. If we do so, there's probably not more than one or two naval battles of WWII that would be "major", but we know that's not the case. For further information, I'd highly suggest Castles of Steel: Britain, Germany, and the Winning of the Great War at Sea by Robert K. Massie, augmented by The Central Powers in the Adriatic, 1914-1918: War in a Narrow Sea by Charles W. Koburger, Jr. SpartHawg948 07:14, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Addendum - not trying to come off as cross or uber-crazy or anything, it's just that naval warfare, particularly in the period from approximately 1800-1918 is a big fascination of mine. In addition to the aforementioned books, I've got several others detailing the War of 1812, buildups in the UK, Germany, and the Austro-Hungarian navies pre-1914, etc. And I do tend to get kinda passionate about some of these hobbies of mine! :P SpartHawg948 07:52, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * The thing is, the Battle of Jutland was effectively the defining naval battle of the First World War. It was also the only time in the war that a full-scale battle between battleships ever occurred. Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem 11:55, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * That may very well be, but "the defining naval battle of the First World War" and "the only major naval engagement of the First World War" are two totally different statements. One is true, the other isn't. There were many major naval engagements of the First World War. For example, imagine if I were to call the Battle of Midway "the only major naval engagement of the Second World War." It clearly wasn't. It was just as clearly the defining naval battle of the Second World War, but those are two entirely different statements which are not synonymous. I'm not calling into question Jutland's strategic importance, merely the inaccurate statement that it was the only "major naval engagement" of the war, a war in which there were several major naval engagements. SpartHawg948 20:41, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

what the hell¡¡¡¡
why did you erase the lazarus cell info i had find... i mean ... it wasnt fake info
 * First watch your language. Second, it is already mentioned in a much more appropriate place, i.e. the Normandy SR-2. Every person on that ship is a member of the cell, and the only members of the cell, so why have the exact same list in two separate locations? On top of that, where is it more relevant? I'd say the SR-2 article considering it lists the people that are in the ship and it even mentions that it is the headquarters of the Lazarus Cell. There is absolutely no reason to have the exact same list in two locations, when it is already mentioned, and in a very relevant place. Not to mention it was horribly formatted and had other isseus. Lancer1289 21:28, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

well, maybe i was wrong man but you could at least send me a message telling me what was wrong about the info so i could try to correct it
 * And we have edit summaries that serve that purpose just fine. If we left a message every time this happened, then we would be leaving nothing but messages, and that is just unnecessary work when we already have something that functions just fine. And don't leave a new message for every edit, just continue the conversation. Lancer1289 21:42, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

i'll check them, just ... be nice with the new one
 * Didn't I just ask you to not leave a new message every time you reply? This doesn't help with organization. Just hit the edit button on the section containing this conversation and just edit there, don't leave a new message for every reply. Lancer1289 21:49, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

ok dude...

BIG question
hey lancer, i just make an account and i really want to know how many alliance ships were destroyed in the battle of the citadel if you decided to save the council( as i did)
 * There are eight confirmed ships, Alliance Cruisers, that were destroyed and are listed on the Alliance Navy page. The ones with the "Participant in the Battle of the Citadel (2183)" next to their names. Also don't change that to destroyed as canon states the Council decision is left up to the player. Had to say that. As to the number of other ships, it is not known, but there are plenty of other ships that we see destroyed. I guess the answer is eight Alliance Cruisers, plus an undisclosed number of other ships. Lancer1289 22:35, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks man...i had that doubt since i ended the first game but... it also makes me thing about the total number of ships that are going to fight the reapers in ME3 because if you thing about it, in ME2 they say that the arcturus fleet (the fleet that fougth the soveraign) was almost completely destroyed and as long as i know, theres another fleet guarding the earth. BUT... i mean, with the reaper attack on earth, im supposing that the fleet that was protecting the earth was also destroyed...so...the alliance is out of ships or what.

Look... i dont know if im rigth about that other fleet but if im rigth, that leaves an AWFUL scenario for earth.
 * If you wish to discuss that, then I would recommend a blog post or a forum page as that is the kind of conversation that tends to spark interest, and I really don't want to host that on my talk page. Lancer1289 23:09, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Character Infobox
It seems your selective memory failed you. :P Anyway, I'll have a go at making a new infobox character as a sub page of my userpage, bt it wouldn't nearly be as good as if I had the meta-template.--Technobliterator 09:18, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Al right I've done it: User:Technobliterator/Character. Shall I put this forward in a forum?--Technobliterator 09:46, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I thought there was something I forgot about. Anyway if you feel it is ready, then take it to the Projects forum. If you feel it needs more work, then wait. Lancer1289 15:51, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

wow...you put the same image
how original
 * No it is a higher quality image. Lancer1289 02:38, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

sure...HQ
 * And the point of this comment was what exactly? Lancer1289 02:49, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Missing Title #3
--Haloone 14:41, July 22, 2011 (UTC)Hey Lancer1289,I was wondering if there was a Morality guide for romances. If not, i think it would be a great suggestion.Haloone 14:41, July 22, 2011 (UTC)Haloone
 * What exactly do you mean, we already have morality guides for both games, so I'm not seeing what you are getting at here? And can't anyone leave a new message anymore? Lancer1289 16:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just for the hell of it...
If you need help with anything, let me know. I have heavy wiki experience, as I'm an admin (although very inactive) of the Metroid Wiki of NIWA (separate from Wikia, which we've made fun of more than once :/). I've recently become very interested in ME2 on PS3, starting my fourth playthrough today. Thanks. TheSuperZeldaMan 05:12, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * We seem to have a lot of the bases covered, but if you poke around and find something, then you won't find anyone objecting. However I do ask that you refrain from profanity here. We just don't have a need for it in civilized conversation. Lancer1289 16:01, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Pausing the Language Policy vote
As I jumped the gun a bit on the voting, effectively skipping the Discussion phase, would you mind pausing the vote on my Language Policy proposal, so that the changes could be discussed?
 * I have already given my opinion. I'm fine with either option. Lancer1289 20:18, July 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please be so kind as to provide a yes or no answer here. It'd be nice if we could avoid the forum getting bogged down unnecessarily, and having everyone offer their opinion on a pause at the forum itself would do that. As such, it's vastly preferable that everyone simply reply to Arbington's messages on their own talk pages. This also saves people (such as Arbington and myself) the effort of having to wade through entire paragraphs of responses looking for one little word. Thanks, SpartHawg948 21:55, July 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok then, a pause sounds like a good idea then. And since you stated that I shouldn't post in the forum as well, I won't. Lancer1289 00:39, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

A little trick
Hello again! I need a bit of help with wiki management, and it would be great if you happened to know the answer. ^_^ I want to add a div section with a login prompt to the right of the main page, and to the right of every "question" page (see any random). I also want it to only be visible to anonymous users. The problem is, 1) I don't know how to make it visible to anons only, and 2) I have no idea how to change the standard page template, or whatever it's called, to add this section to existing pages. I wasn't able to find this information yet, please drop a word if you happen to know the how it's done. Mitranim 10:51, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend going to the staff at Community Central with this as I really have no idea what you want to do or how to do it. Lancer1289 14:34, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Mass Effect Wiki scavenger hunt
Hi! I'd like to let you know that Wikia would like to put a (new and improved) scavenger hunt game up on Mass Effect wiki. To see what it's all about, you can check out this presentation of one done for Avengers. We'd also like to hear your feedback on the feature once it's up and running. The game looks fun, so I hope you're up for it too. :) Ausir(talk) 22:01, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

mass effect 3
mass effect 3 is the fippin best
 * Um, ok, this is here why exactly? Lancer1289 04:00, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I want to delete my blog post
I apologize for bothering you, but I need help deleting my blog post. Thank You in advance.Ser Derek of Highever 21:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I took care of it, Lancer. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:11, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

my fault.
Sorry, I was putting my signature & my hand slipped and added that. I thought it was already there so I left it. --Slowrider7 19:07, July 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok then, but I do ask people to do one thing at the top of my talk page. If I left you a message, then respond on your talk page as I hate cross page conversations. Lancer1289 19:38, July 31, 2011 (UTC)