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The Prothean
Apologies about the Prothean. I was adding the quote while you changed the name back. Didn't mean to step on your toes. Hope the pic is to your liking! Cheers! Der Schreiber 02:32, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's alright. And the image is fine. Just so you're aware, until the official launch in about two and a half hours, your info still constitutes leaked material. I'm not sure where you're getting your info (perhaps you already have the game), but you'll have to wait for that before you can re-add it. I do have a question: how do you know the Prothean's name is Javik? I've seen that a lot, but I never found it in any of the leaked files. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:39, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

From Ashes
Commdor, I did as you asked and I couldn't see any new clusters or new anything really. It appears that you could visit the Exodus Cluster right off the back, and get to Eden Prime. I doubt I'll see anything new once the DLC is downloaded. Also Exodus is under Reaper control so that will make it difficult. Now I'm off to get a little sleep. Lancer1289 09:05, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

OK I downloaded the DLC and the only thing it adds is "Recover Prothean Artifact" when you hover of the Exodus Cluster, and then Eden Prime. As for the Journal, Priority: Eden Prime. I know it's a red link now, but I'll fix that in a sec. Lancer1289 16:10, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. Thanks for checking, and double thanks for sticking around and helping out. And is it just me, or have assignments been merged with missions in ME3? I didn't notice an Assignments section under the Journal tab. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:17, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't see any either. I also believe they have been merged with missions, given the set up of the Journal. Lancer1289 16:21, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * That simplifies things for us, I guess. All quests in ME3 are missions. Anyway, I'm going to add one or two Codex entries and then I'll have to study for an exam I have in 90 minutes. I should be back and working around here as usual by 3pm CST at the latest. I can post the rest of the missions in the game from the guidebook (soooo many on the Citadel). -- Commdor (Talk) 16:30, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Commdor. I hope your exam went well, and if you don't mind me asking, which subject? Just curious. Anyway, I have found that activity as well as spoilers isn't near what I expected. I fully expect this to change in the coming days, but if this is the pace that we have to deal with, even if it escalated slightly, then I think we planned for a hurricane, and we only got a thunderstorm.

As to the walkthroughs. My current plan is to work on them after I complete ME3 once. That way, I can enjoy the game without having to spend five hours typing per mission. While the Galaxy At War missions will take much less time, the main missions are quite long. I mean the one on Mars was quite long. I still haven't got to Palaven yet, and I plan to do that after some lunch. Me need food. And I have to work on a few things as well. Lancer1289 19:06, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe I fared decently on the exam, but I could definitely have done better. If I hadn't missed class due to illness two weeks ago, I could have skipped this exam (we're allowed to drop one of the five), but no such luck. The subject was criminal justice by the way. And yes, the activity on the wiki is still manageable right now. Incorporating the stuff I want to add will be slow, though; it took me half an hour just to transcribe two secondary Codex entries. Just have to keep hacking at it, we'll get it done eventually. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:12, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes those Codex entries are annoying. Especially when we have to deal with similar entries. I still remember when we discovered discrepancies between ME and ME2 Codex entries. Lancer1289 20:16, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Fix-up from ME3 Launch
Hey, for those of us who are either a) new to editing; or b) just haven't received ME3 yet, is it a good idea to clean-up articles and information left by those to busy with the game to pay attention to spelling, grammar, format, and spoiler tags? I mean, Mass Effect 3 may be out, but we have to keep up the image of being (somewhat) well organized. Also, good practice for people who are new to editing. --AnAutisticTeen 18:49, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Short answer, yes. Lancer1289 18:51, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

John Shepard
Greetings, Commdor! Um, just to let you know: I re-created that John Shepard page that was deleted. However, I put it as a redirect to the proper article. I figure there is probably enough people out there that will search the "wrong" name for him :) If you think this is silly - just delete it again. :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 23:17, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the reason it was deleted before (today and a few years ago) was because it was a redirect. We don't want to create redirects with Shepard's first name, even if they are default, because they invite users to create more redirects with custom names. Since Shepard is only ever referred to as "Shepard" or "Commander Shepard" in the games anyway, there won't be any confusion. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:30, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Spellings
Why did you undo the edit? 'Civilisation' shows up as misspelled, and 'civilization' is shown as correct. I realize the UK might spell things differently, but isn't this US hosted?


 * I believe Wikia is US hosted, but the ME franchise originates from Canada and we have a substantial amount of users who use UK spellings. A site policy was created several years ago that allows UK spellings to stand in articles and prohibits changing them; conversely, US spellings can't be changed to UK ones. This policy was enacted to prevent edit warring over the different spellings. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:22, March 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Makes sense, if not mildly confusing. Still, now I won't stubbornly continue to re-edit and end up irritating people. Thanks!--Ocean Soul 06:58, March 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but either fix the spelling, or ignore it. Undoing the edit, possible additions, just because of some spelling errors are just stupid. 195.174.205.216 02:44, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * To the contrary. If you're unwilling make sure your edits are up to standard, you have no expectation whatsoever that those edits will be allowed to stand. The burden is on the person adding information to ensure that their edits are suitable. Those of us who maintain the wiki aren't around just to clean up your mistakes. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:21, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * You can fix the errors yourself as long as it is not in conflict with the wiki's policy of UK/US spellings. — Teugene (Talk) 02:56, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Possible Vandal
This user keeps switching the Ashley picture on the Ashley page, to Garrus Vakarian's picture: 72.179.38.90

I'll keep you posted :) JouninOfDespair 13:59, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Page is getting hit pretty hard at the moment, I'd keep it under surveillance. Undid two people, somebody else is also helping, but a lot of people are messing with the picture. JouninOfDespair 14:17, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I already posted the name of the person on Lancer1289 talk page under the section Vandalism --Icemoomoo 14:19, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ok then JouninOfDespair 15:10, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Taken care of. All of them. Lancer1289 15:47, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon Mod Tables
Told Lancer about this, but I'll tell you as well, just completed all the tables and info for every weapon mod in Mass Effect 3. The only one I couldnt do was the Single Player mod "Concentration Mod" for the Sniper Rifles, but I'm sure it'll happen in due time. Took a while to get this information, but its done now and it feels good :). JouninOfDespair 15:12, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Organizing
I may be jumping the gun here, and if I am I apologize for it. I've noticed recently that the ME3 articles under all the character pages are starting to get cluttered. I know most of this is from so many users editing at once, and I've tried to clean it up a little. Should subsections such as Dossiers and Romance be started, or wait until theres more info? Unsure what to do here, with being a new member and all--Insanityhelper 01:38, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd leave the sections as they are for now until we get more info, it shouldn't take too long. It's only the day after the game was released, so we're getting flooded with information by users who are unfamiliar with editing wikis. Once things calm down and more of our regular users complete the game, we'll be able to take stock and clean everything up. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:43, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say give it about two or three weeks for things to settle down, then the process will really begin. Lancer1289 01:47, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. If its alright with you, I'll continue cleaning the small amount of info we have a little better, fixing grammar/spelling mistakes, etc.--Insanityhelper 01:51, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

RC Clogging
Ok, this guy from wiki is really starting to get on my nerves. In my opinion, he could have chosen a much better time to do whatever he's doing. I mean, it's the day after a major release, haven't we got enough things to worry about without having to worry about someone clogging up the RC with things that could be done at another time? I'm honestly thinking of asking him to stop and come back in a week or so once things settle down here. What do you think? Lancer1289 02:27, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is somewhat annoying, but I don't think it'll be any less so if he comes back to do it next week. We might as well let him get it over with now. But if he continues to do this into the night, when neither of us will be around to monitor RC, we should probably ask him to stop and start again in the morning (or noon EST). Regular edits and vandalism will get lost otherwise. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:34, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea. However, if this is going to be every article, then why not do it in chunks instead of the entire thing at one time? It will make it much easier on everyone. Lancer1289 02:37, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Huh. Looks like he stopped. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:56, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I take it its me your talking about... :/ JouninOfDespair 12:27, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * No. Lancer1289 13:43, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, well I dont blame you for being annoyed with me for the amount I've pestered you, thats why I assumed. Mind, I dont know what RC really means? Is it Recent Contributions? JouninOfDespair 13:47, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Achievement Images
Commdor, someone recently uploaded a ton of super low quality images for the Achievements. Now, unfortunately when he was asked to stop four times and didn't, I was forced to take action. Not what I wanted to do, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Anyway, I don't think we need to wait the two days on them as they don't even come close to meeting any standards for images. What do you think?

Also, it just doesn’t seem to stop today doesn't it? I should have been home almost an hour ago, but I stayed at school to try and keep up. I’ll probably be leaving shortly and going home because I need to get out of here. And it's a half hour drive home. Lancer1289 19:24, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was about to post a message on your talk about the same thing. I agree, tagging the images would be a waste of time, they should be deleted now. Since it's a lot of images to handle, would you mind helping me out? I'll start with the earliest images and work my way forward, if you could go from the most recent ones we can get this out of the way in half the time. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:30, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can do. I'll get started now. Lancer1289 19:31, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well looks like you got the rest. My computer decided to go all crazy on me for a minute. Anyway, I plan to leave school around 2:00 CST and drive home. Just a heads up. Lancer1289 19:44, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. I'm going to run and get some lunch, should be back in ten minutes. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:45, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm back, went to Subway. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:59, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm going to head home then. I am currently working on the Search and Rescue page and have it open in my browser. I'm putting all of that information into a table, so just a heads up on that. Try to avoid editing it. Thanks. See you in a half hour.
 * I also took care of all of the overnight edits, so no need to worry about them. Lancer1289 20:01, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok. I'll try to make sure the wiki doesn't burn down while you're in transit. :P -- Commdor (Talk) 20:07, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I finally finished that annoying Search and Rescue article. Man that took a long time. I also put it into a Javatable as I thought that would be about 600 times more useful if it was sortable. At least it's done. Lancer1289 22:58, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good work. I got the Annos Basin cluster knocked out. I want to try and do Kite's Nest, the Petra Cluster (home to Elysium), and maybe the Exodus Cluster later (Exodus is already up from ME, but it seems that several planets have slightly different descriptions, like Eden Prime). -- Commdor (Talk) 23:09, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for all your doing and hope everything goes well in the future.


 * You're certainly welcome. I hope the wiki has been of help to you. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:59, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Aethon Cluster
Commdor, you probably missed this and since I fixed something earlier about it, I remembered it. The Aethon Cluster is actually in the game and is home to the volus homeworld of Irune. Right now, it is also in the Guide Book, I have the CE edition, but at the top of the first column on page 363 for the mission Irune: Book of Plenix. Lancer1289 21:08, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I surmised it might have been an actual cluster in game, but I didn't want the article to exist because some spammer wanted to use it post a joke. I plan to recreate it later. Right now I'm in the middle of transcribing some Codex entries, then I plan to make some more cluster and system articles and some stub planet articles. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:13, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, well that makes sense. I didn't see it before it was deleted, so I just felt I should pass it along. Lancer1289 21:18, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Couple quick points
Hi Commdor,

Have you had time to consider the split of the Normandy SR-2's ME2 and ME3 iterations into two different articles, as the ship (In my view) is distinct enough between the two different games to warrant two articles. Also, you recently deleted the page Aethon Cluster with the reason "Spam" -- my question: why? It exists. (For instance, the Volus homeworld, Irune, is located there as per Irune.)

Thanks,

--Go Bruins! 21:12, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * See the topic above for why I deleted the Aethon Cluster article. As for the Normandy SR-2 split, that will require community discussion and approval. I plan to propose the split after I confirm a certain detail about the Normandy in the game; I saw a screenshot months ago of a stat screen for the ship that showed how it could be upgraded, and that screen called the Normandy the "SSV Normandy SR-2". Once I can confirm that was real, then we'll have an even stronger reason to push for a split. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:16, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Priority: The Citadel
Ok, well BioWare has decided to make our lives a bit harder. As I have just finished Tuchanka, I can confirm what was left on my talk page some time ago. There are actually two missions titled "Priority: The Citadel". One that takes place during the Prologue, and the second at the beginning of Act 2. Now I intend to call them "Priority: The Citadel (Prologue)" and "Priority: The Citadel (Act 2)" to align with the Guidebook unless you have another suggestion. I also plan to turn the Priority: The Citadel page into a full Disambiguation page with links to both articles. Again, I really don't see another option here, but I will listen to advice. Lancer1289 02:36, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

There's also something else, a recent edit to the asari page has me worried. I don't know how to integrate that into the article, and since your the one who's good with those articles, I figure you can take a crack at it. Lancer1289 02:57, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Before I can provide any suggestions for the Citadel missions, a question: does the game itself divide missions up into acts like the guidebook? As for the asari info, I was expecting that, but not this soon. I'll end up having to do a partial revamp of the page as I did with the Prothean article. If we can keep the Asari article clear of this info until tomorrow (or at least sweep it into a temporary "Mass Effect 3" subsection under "History" there), I can get it taken care of. Right now, I'm afraid I don't have the energy to complete that; the Prothean revamp took me four hours, and I think the Asari revamp may be the same. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:10, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * No the game doesn't as far as I can tell. The Journal just lists them in mission order. The problem is that there are are two in there. Again advice welcome. Lancer1289 03:12, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ugh, I was afraid of that. I don't want to use "act" in there then. So, I agree that "Priority: The Citadel" should become a disambiguation page for the two missions. I have a series of title pairs for the missions themselves: 1. "Priority: The Citadel I", "Priority: The Citadel II" (numbers can be used in place of Roman numerals if desired) 2. "Priority: The Citadel/I" (or /Prologue), "Priority: The Citadel/II" 3. "Priority: The Citadel (Prologue)", "Priority: The Citadel" (in this case, we don't make the disambiguation page, and only have disambig tags on both articles that link to each other) That's all I've got right now. When were you planning on doing the split? -- Commdor (Talk) 03:25, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well now actually. I'll probably go with the first option as it is the most logical. Using "/" is for things like the Codex. However, I'll stick with the Numerals as they look better than numbers. Lancer1289 03:32, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Apologies for edit conflicts, but is that ok or would you have me hold off for a moment? Lancer1289 03:40, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * No conflict, I hadn't started a reply yet. But yes, that option is what I'd do. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:42, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok three pages coming up. Lancer1289 03:49, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I was just looking through the Guidebook and there may be a third Priority: The Citadel mission where all you do is go the asari Councilor to talk about going to Thessia. I won't be able to confirm this until later, but if true, then...well...great. Just great... Lancer1289 00:53, March 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * It could be worse. There could be doubles of all of the missions. :P -- Commdor (Talk) 01:02, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Please don't give the mercs ideas". :P Lancer1289 01:04, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well it appears I was correct. I've just finished dealing with the quarians and the geth, and got what I wanted in the process. Anyway, after completion of the mission, guess who calls up Shepard? The asari councilor. Apparently this is just another meet and greet let's talk about our feelings sort of mission, but again it is called "Priority: The Citadel". So it looks like we have three articles now. Off to the article creation page.

Who's bright idea was this anyway?


 * Someone who doesn't realize how they're complicating our work. Tsk, tsk. And they didn't even give the prologue mission on Earth a journal entry or name. Jake's made a move proposal for "Prologue: Earth" which you should take a look at. It boils down to do we keep the guidebook's name for the mission, or move it to the name of the mission's location (when you bring up the save menu during a mission, it states the location of that mission, but not the journal name; the prologue mission has a location, but no journal name). -- Commdor (Talk) 06:01, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I saw that, but didn't make much of it at the time. I'll take a close look now. I was a little busy trying to...oh wait, no spoilers. Lancer1289 06:03, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Never mind, Jake's fine with the current title. And I envy you, getting to actually play ME3. I suppose I could stop editing until I beat the game, but I have responsibilities as an admin and I don't want to leave you or anyone else in the lurch. But it is frustrating . Is a wiki lockdown (only for unregistered contributors, and only for a few weeks) truly out of the question? -- Commdor (Talk) 06:13, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, if you want to propose it or email Spart, I will find myself in a position where I can't really argue. I know some wikis do that. Lancer1289 06:16, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll sleep on it then, but my doubts about taking this step are evaporating. It's getting to where I don't even have the opportunity to make my own edits because I'm too busy checking and fixing others' or blocking vandalism. If I can't play the game and I can't contribute to the wiki beyond mere patrolling, what's the point of it all? I can't fathom how we handled ME2. -- Commdor (Talk) 06:30, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * While you were here before that, I just joined at that point remember? From what I saw, there was a lot less going on as ME2 wasn't as big as ME3 is. ME2 didn't even have close to the amount of hype that ME3 did. They weren't even on the same planet. There weren't as many edits going on, nor as many vandals. Again, I would just email Spart anyway and see what he thinks and say what you just said. Lancer1289 06:40, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Overnight
Well to say a lot happened is an understatement. I had to enact at least 6 bans over James' article alone, so I've locked it for two weeks for that purpose. I came so close to locking to admins only, but leaving it as it is now, is probably better. Look at the history of it and if that doesn't make you shake your head, then I don't know what will. I've also protected Tali's page for the ongoing problems with the picture. Until we can get a decent shot, it's just going to keep happening. Lancer1289 16:47, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just got back on and I can't go back in the RC further than 5am EST, there have been too many changes. Also, it looks like the user who proposed replacing all of the achievement images has gone ahead and uploaded all of them for ME and ME3. Do we make him wait until the project has been approved before adding the images, delete the images in the meantime, or what? -- Commdor (Talk) 18:45, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably for the best as it hasn't been approved yet. Only a few examples are needed. Lancer1289 18:48, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've set up the project for voting. I don't know if we should delete the images yet, they'll probably end up in use and I don't want to delete over 100 images only for them to be re-uploaded in a week. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:03, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Progress in Game.
so, how are you doing in Mass Effect 3. I, myself beat it as well as all N7 missions last night. My ending was...not very good.--Legionwrex 19:01, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm still not very far into it. Between managing the wiki and classes, I have yet to start Priority: Sur'Kesh. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:04, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Removing for now, still in use.
No, they are not. The File:SpectreSymbol.png wasn't in use for two years now, that's why I tagged the file. What's wrong with that? --ShardofTruth 19:08, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * My mistake then. I'll delete them. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:11, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Jack Image
Someone apparently added it back after I pointed out why I removed the image from Jack's page.

It is no longer in use for purposes of deletion. (It's Shep's shoulder blocking a good part of her figure for crying out loud..)--Aryn2382 19:29, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Got it. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:32, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

When you get a chance...
Stop by my talk page for the Monastery thing. It just got interesting. Lancer1289 08:04, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Fuel in ME3
You don't have to buy fuel at a fuel depot, just dock at the Citadel and you will be at 1000/1000 again, consider adding it to an appropriate page.

Main Page changes
Hello Admin

I find the front page of this wiki to be unattractive, perhaps its time for a change. This dark blue color hanging in the background can become irritating after a while. Maybe the background color could have a slightly larger contrast to the text color and perhaps it could also become less visible to that the background picture could show. Unfortunately I can't edit it as a non admin user. Please take a look at the Dragon Age and Skyrim wiki they are slightly more attractive and modern on first sight.

Thanks for your time

Persason


 * We have no plans to change the main page at this time. Any changes require creating a proposal, allowing for community input, finalizing the proposal, putting the proposal to a vote, and then if the community votes to approve the proposal it can be implemented. Since we are currently busy incorporating Mass Effect 3 information, it could be weeks or months before such a project is possible, let alone if we decide we want to change the main page at all. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:45, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

The Art of Mass Effect
Commdor, I would just like to ask if you may be able to help me with a little project. I love this wiki, I have browsed it everyday at school for as long as I have had my laptop, and I would like to leave my mark. I have the Art of Mass Effect 2, and 3, and if you are willing to help me, I can scan each page of them, and make a page detailing them. I hope we can make this happen, and i'm hoping for a reply :) sincerely TheRealTerminal 10:50, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem with that is the massive copyright issue that comes along with that. We could get into a lot of trouble if we don't get permission to display those images. Therefore I'm going to say no. Lancer1289 16:50, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Cluster Code
I am trying to add another system in the Kite's Nest cluster, but I am unfamiliar with the code that is under location. Any suggestions? KcBrN 11:28, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * You would search for "Cluster:Kite's Nest", the underlying cluster template. When adding new systems into those templates, be sure to follow the format exactly. Use other cluster templates as examples. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:39, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. Everything looks good. KcBrN 20:27, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Cerberus Armor
I'm playing ME3 right now. Cerberus Armor is not the same as Cerberus Assault Armor.


 * Yes, I'm aware they have different stats. But because the name is not much different than Cerberus Assault Armor and the appearance is exactly the same, any info about Cerberus Armor is going into the CAA article. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:24, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the confusino then. I'll just try to help fill in the new specs.


 * It's no problem, thanks for your help. Without users like yourself, details like this might not be noticed for weeks. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:38, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I added the new ME3 stats to the Blood Dragon Armor and Inferno Armor yesterday. I want to know if there is a cleaner way of doing it differently than the way I did. KcBrN 20:31, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * See the Cerberus Assault Armor article for how I divided the page into ME2 and ME3 sections. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:32, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, will do thanks KcBrN 21:25, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see how you devided it. But this would make the previous stats in the armor code and possibly under the in-game description, although I can understand that staying because it's apart of the ME2 (not ME3) in-game description, irrelevant. Should we take the stats out of the armor code because this could possibly lead to misguided information for, lets say someone who hasn't played ME2 and is only playing ME3? KcBrN 22:20, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Disregard, I was looking at Terminus Assault Armor. Not Cerberus Assault Armor. My apolagies. KcBrN 22:23, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Cluster:Ninmah Cluster links not working
Strangest thing, i created Cluster:Ninmah Cluster but the link or search can't find it. However, the link on my following page works and hitting the back button on the browser will reload the page. So I know it's there I just can't seem to find what is wrong with the links. This also leads to the code on the Ninmah Cluster page not to work. It did work at first but now it's not updating the planets I am creating. It shows the planet link still red. Help Please??? KcBrN 21:30, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's wiki lag. Give a few hours and things should work like normal. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:35, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Art of Mass Effect 2/3 Page
Hey Commdor, I tried to leave a message but I don't think it got through, but I have an idea, and I need your help with it. I own the colectors edition of both ME2 and ME3, And with them the art books included, If your willing to help me out with the building of the pages, I be willing to scan each page individualy and add them to the wiki. I am still new to this, but I want to make my mark on the wiki, and frankly i'm shocked that no one has done this yet. Hoping for a reply TheRealTerminal 23:09, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * It looks Lancer gave you the wiki's official line on that in your earlier post. Scanning the books is a complicated copyright issue because we don't have legal permission to post such images. We or Wikia could be sued by BioWare if they decide we're in violation of their copyrights, so we can't post them. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:17, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thats dissapointing :( I want to make a decent contribution to this wiki, and this would have gotten me a bit of notice. Do you maybe have any suggestions for me? I have a lt of spare time at school, hell i'm on my laptop in art right now. TheRealTerminal 01:47, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sirta Foundation Redirect
Should the Sirta Supplies page be redirected to Sirta Foundation (shop) page and create a sirta supplies category for ME3? I feel like they should be on the same page since they are both shops of the Sirta Foundation, but in two different games. KcBrN 23:55, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd leave them alone. They're different shops with different items in different games. We may decide to do a merge later, but that's one of the million other things we'll have to consider after we're done incorporating all of ME3's info. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:57, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Asari folds.
I wrote it in the talk page before I realised I should just go here, so... yeah, go there. But this is about the Asari folds. Namely that it's quoted right from liara.NickTyrong 02:34, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Email
Commdor, would you mind checking your email at the earliest possibility please. Lancer1289 12:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lockdown
Well I heard back from Wikia and it is good news and bad news. The good news is that they can lock down the wiki. The bad news is that they would like to see some discussion on it, even if it is brief. So how do we proceed on that front? I was thinking just a brief Policy Forum Discussion lasting no more than three days. Lancer1289 22:20, March 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * If we must. Underline how much pressure this has put on administrators and how we're getting record numbers of viewers and edits that we just can't handle. I would also protect that policy page so that only registered contributors can weigh in, since unregistered users will likely oppose the measure and might swamp any vote. I hope it passes. If it doesn't I may give up, I can't keep up this pace much longer. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:27, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do that. Give me a few minutes. I should also let you know that I will be leaving for my evening class in 45 minutes tops and won't be back until 9:30 - 10:00 CST. Lancer1289 22:30, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

It is done, Forum:Wiki Lockdown. Now all we can do is hope and pray. I have left it open to voting until Wednesday night at 11:59 UTC, I got a little overhappy with the changes to the template for a minute. Please do take some time and add your comment as well to the top to share your opinion. Not in the Comments section at the top. While I'm sure that I've already stated some things, please just reiterate them. I set the end date as April 30th as I feel that anything less will just overwhelm us again. If you which to change that, then please do, but my personal vote here is no earlier than April 16th.

I will be leaving in 15 minutes to go to my evening class. Lancer1289 23:01, March 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll keep an eye on it and the wiki then. If I think of something to add, I will, but you set it all out. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:02, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Real Life Indoctrination :)
This has restored my faith in the series :) http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Damous/Why_Bioware_has_NOT_betrayed_us If this is indeed the truth, or if Bioware pretends it is ;) Than they will have obtained greatness. And i'm happy to say, I overcame it.
 * I'm saying no. Chances are the Sypher reached into Shep's mind and showed itself to him as something that he'd been thinking of, in this case the kid. I assumed the blacka t the edge of the screen was a visual representation of indoctrination (just look at TIM's face. Back, kind of tentacly goop.) Now granted, I only got the bad ending. (Purposefully did none of the side quests in this one and made poor choices, just to see what would happen. Still have to go through the whole series to REALLY screw myself, though.) SO maybe there's tons more I'm missing, but I think it made perfect sence, overall The reason for the Reapers doing their thing was fine for myself. Hell, the fact that voerall the endings are kinda the same also makes ence. This is the last one, as far as we know, to have save file transer. but let's not kid ourselves. This is NOT the final entry intot he series. They needed a main, singular, cohesive cannon ending because of that. If they gave several choices thy're just tick off even MORE people who dont like the "cannon" ending.NickTyrong 01:02, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * That said I wouldn't OBJECT ot it having been a halucination, and this being revealed in DLC.NickTyrong 01:03, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Galaxy Map
I have a new idea for the galaxy map on the Milky Way page. The five regions, such as Alliance Space and the Terminus systems, have finally been shown as a visual we can see. Why not use that map (Galaxy at War Map) on the Milky Way page instead of the mass effect galaxy map already there. Just as the mass effect galaxy map has links built into the image, we can build links into the regions on the Galaxy at War map. This way players can use it as a navigational map to narrow their searches to clusters, systems, and planets. It would combine the whole ME universe into one map. I believe it would be easier and interesting to visually see what regions systems and planets fall under.

This could also mean adding regions to the planet's pages. (Location: Galaxy / Region / Cluster / System / Planet) I really think this could be a very neat and clean representation of the Galaxy and locationsKcBrN 00:58, March 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd only be willing to add a map like that for the ME3 section of the Milky Way page since we know for certain where all clusters across the entire trilogy are located. ME3 doesn't include several ME and ME2 clusters. If you want to propose the project, do so in the wiki's Project Forum and make sure you can produce a working model. Once the community agrees on design of the project, then it can be put to a vote and implemented if it is approved. If you're not sure how to produce the working map (I know it's beyond my skills), we might want to postpone the proposal until things settle down and we can seek the assistance of some of our more knowledgeable editors. In that case, remind me of this in a month or so and I'll try and get the ball rolling. I also want to make sure we have all of the new cluster, system, and planet pages up before we start on something like this. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:08, March 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I do not have the skills required for that so I will wait. In the meantime, I will make myself useful in making sure all cluster, system, and planet pages are up. Thanks KcBrN 01:36, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

I am such a bonehead. Remind me again how to sign my watercooler forum posts. I used the signature button but it leaves a number instead of my name.Nuveena7

Thane Page Vandalized
Commdor the Thane Krios page has been severely vandalized, with only a message left, obviously someone must have pissed him off majorly, I just wanted to bring this to your attention. TheRealTerminal 23:35, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Artbooks
Hi Commdor, I have something to ask you.

Since I'm new here and you are one of the administrator, I wanted to know if we can use the information from the official artbooks of Bioware, like The Art of Mass Effect 3.

I think yes, since I saw some pages with them like the N7 page mentioning some information from The Art of Mass Effect. They contain countless information on the games and where Bioware take their ideas. We can also see on The Art of Mass Effect 3 more variations about the pigmentation of the protheans (protheans which are not so visible during the flashback in Mass Effect 3) based on designs for the Prothean's armor, with a dark purple, red, yellow and gray protheans.

Can I add those informations with sources (or images) on pages =)? Admiral Jacoren 00:04, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Most of the art book info would only be permissible in trivia sections in articles since it details "behind the scenes" aspects of designing the games, but not all of it is notable enough. You're welcome to add what details you think are worth mentioning, but note that I or other users may disagree with the notability (for instance, I would not consider mentioning that Javik had various skin colors tried before his design was finalized to be particularly noteworthy). Scans from the art books aren't permitted on the wiki, however, because of potential copyright issues. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:21, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for you reply ;). Otherwise for the pigmentation of the protheans, it is more related to the Prothean's armor, and therefore the prothean race itself than Javik himself. Here the image, what do you think? Admiral Jacoren 00:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe Javik's article already has a trivia blurb about his armor. Since the armor may not be worn by the entire race (or everyone in the Empire since we now know there were multiple races under the Protheans' banner) and we mostly see it only on Javik (I think the flashbacks show a couple other Protheans briefly), the info would pertain primarily to him because of the strength of the association. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:01, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

All right, thanks for all your help my friend =), and sorry for taking your time about that. Have a good one and see soon! Admiral Jacoren 01:12, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure thing, I'm happy to be of assistance. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:13, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Changing Orbit
I'm not sure what to do so I'm bringing it to your attention. Intai'sei was a DLC planet in ME's Pinnacle Station. It appears that Bioware made a mistake in placing the planet as the Fifth planet in ME when in ME3 it is the Third planet. The planet stats vary slightly. Do we make a Mass Effect and Mass Effect 3 section? KcBrN 00:42, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * First, which stats are different? Radius, colony population, others? -- Commdor (Talk) 00:46, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Only Orbital distance wich in ME is 15.7 and in ME3 is 15.68. That's not enough to make up for the two planet orbit change. KcBrN 01:01, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Are the orbital distances of any other planets in the system different from ME as well? -- Commdor (Talk) 01:11, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well everything is good except for orbital distances. Now I am looking at the information on this wiki for ME. I don't have the actual game up. However I do have ME3 up. Now, in ME all planets in the Phoenix system have N/A for orbital distance except for Intai'sei. ME3, all planets have orbital distance information. Again, all other information matches. KcBrN 01:30, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. What I'd do is add the orbital distance info to all of the other planet articles, but leave Intai'sei as it is for now. This is the first time out of all the games we've had such conflicting info for a planet, so I'll need to work out something that allows us to display the ME3 info without having to create another article or split the article into two overall parts. I'll work on it this weekend when I have more time. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:34, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok sounds good KcBrN 01:40, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

So...
What did I miss? Anything important? Seems like you've been busy. Lancer1289 02:36, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think you missed too much. There was a spate of vandalism a few hours ago and a couple spam articles, but I believe I got it all. Now that I'm not forcing myself to stay on every waking hour, it's much less pressure. But could you check the name of the Ardat-Yakshi monastery mission in your game again (if you still can)? Twice now some anonymous users have added mission info to the Lesuss redirect, and I can't help but wonder if it's for a reason. And oddly, from the Nimbus Cluster page, Lesuss isn't even in the Kallini system. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:47, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I did look at that earlier, and it still said Kallini. When I manage to get to it again on my current playthrough, I'll look again. There is something strange going on. Lancer1289 02:50, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also also, is the Kepler Verge cluster in ME3? -- Commdor (Talk) 03:12, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not that I could remember, but I can check in a few minutes. Lancer1289 03:15, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK I love that quick save feature BioWare added. I have just checked and what do I find, Kepler Verge. Only the Newton System is unlocked. Just for reference, this is from a near end game save, so it may not unlock until later, but it is there. Lancer1289 03:29, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool. Looks like ME3 has more clusters than the two previous games without DLC. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:39, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Images
Hi Commodor, I was wondering would these images be of any use to the articles.


 * (Link 1)
 * (Link 2)

If so feel free to use them becasue I don't feel confident enough to edit on this wiki yet. -- ► Kaloneous ◄♣HelpDesk♣ 08:49, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of them look like something we can't use. Lancer1289 12:17, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Wrongly blocked ip
Commdor, I receieved this message earlier before logging in.

The block was made by Commdor.

Reason given: Removing content from pages

Start of block: 02:08, March 8, 2012

Expiry of block: 02:08, March 22, 2012

Intended blockee: 153.107.33.155

Block ID: #4742

Current IP address: 153.107.33.155

This makes no sense, I have not deleted any content at all off of this wiki, I have made 1 page, and talked on various forums, please clarify. TheRealTerminal 22:39, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * This edit was made by the above unregistered contributor. I don't know if that was you or not, but regardless, whoever last used that IP address used it for vandalism and that's why it was blocked. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:32, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry forgot to sign my post. It could not have been made by me, but I am using a school laptop at the moment, they were given out to everyone in year 9, that was a year ago, so both year 9 and 10 have school laptops, and use the school internet. Is it possible it could have been someone else on the network? P.S Also I love this series and Ashley, so saying that would be an extremely hypocrytical thing. TheRealTerminal 22:39, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * If this IP address is being used by your school's network, it's very likely that someone at your school made that edit. School IP addresses are frequently abused like that, Wikipedia blocks thousands of them for years at a time. I don't want to unblock the address since it would invite another incident, but if you can still log in you're fine. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:47, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou for clarifying Commdor, I will still be able to log in, at least as long as they don't block this wiki. By the way, how do I attach an image to my front page, like yours, I want to take a picture of my ME collection to add a bit of personality to it. TheRealTerminal 22:54, March 15, 2012 (UTC) TheRealTerminal 22:54, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * See the instructions here on how to upload images. When uploading an image make sure that it has a clear and meaningful file name (no number jumbles) and that you state somewhere in the summary that the image is intended for your personal use. You're allowed to have up to 10 total personal images in your user space. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:00, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Boss TheRealTerminal 23:04, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Cluster template.
Hey Commdor, about that template, I've done some work on it in my sandbox and almost got it done. Take a look at a sample here. I'm designing the template based on existing layouts to prevent major changes to the existing clusters. There's one thing that stumped me though; I tried figuring out how to remove the last bullet separator but to no avail. Any chance you have an idea how to solve it? In the same time, could you also look at the rest of the Cluster templates and let me know if there's any optimization or improvement that can be done. Thanks! — Teugene (Talk) 03:58, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've made more amendments to the Cluster template. There's nothing to change to the existing templates except for one - inserting of the "end=1" to prevent the last bullet separator from showing. If this current edit is fine, I shall start implementing the template into the wiki. — Teugene (Talk) 03:50, March 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. Fire away. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:00, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Speculation Page
I'm not sure what is going on with all this "I want a new ending", "everybody vote for a new ending" is but I think someone created a page based on these quotes. It's called Marauder Shields. I really don't think it belongs here. KcBrN 08:41, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's been created and deleted several times. People seem to want to lash out at the ending of the game by vandalizing our wiki. Good times... SpartHawg948 08:21, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm glad you guys are on it. I appreciate the hard work that is put into this wiki. It's clean and mostly accurate. In my few days of editing I have seen the admin go through some pretty stressful stuff. Even correct my mistakes. It looks like a lot of hard work and I appreciate it. When I was deployed last year, I would spend my off time escaping the real world and into the mass effect universe by reading this wiki. Keep up the work guys. KcBrN 08:41, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Just a quick heads up...
Apparently there's a concerted effort going to vandalize the wiki regarding this "Marauder Shields" nonsense. SpartHawg948 08:49, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. I shall keep watch until the next 2 hours. — Teugene (Talk) 08:52, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Susskind connection?
Editing Trikalon, I found an asari project that was renamed "Susskind Supercollider" after humans took over the project. I search "Susskind Supercollider" to see if it had a page and found Susskind Station. Susskind Station was cut from Mass Effect 2 at the last minute. I don't believe this connection has in relevance to the games but it is kinda interesting. What do you think? KcBrN 09:37, March 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the Susskind Station page has no relation to the Supercollider except for the name. There was, however, a couple of Cerberus Daily News reports about the Supercolldier. I've linked to them in the Trikalon article. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:13, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Qoutes?
Hi, I've been clicking through random pages, finding things to add/fix (section titles, grammar mistakes, etc.) and I have an idea I'd like to run by you. For some of the less prominent characters, such as Vigil, I feel they could use a head qoute like the other characters. Something that really contributes or defines them or their character. What do you think?--Insanityhelper 00:57, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * We have rules for headquotes and Vigil wouldn't fall into the category that it would be allowed on. Major NPCs, Enemies, and squadmates get them. Examples include, but are not limited to: Anderson, Udina, Joker, EDI, Saren, Harbinger, Illusive Man, Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus. Lancer1289 01:01, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright then. Thought it couldn't hurt to see.--Insanityhelper 01:03, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Jon Grissom Academy
If you don't mind me asking, why was the picture of the students deleted from the Jon Grissom Academy page? Just so that I know for future reference. Yanxa 13:23, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * My mistake. I deleted that entire section in order to rewrite it and must have forgotten to re-add the image. I've fixed it now. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:02, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. Yanxa 12:06, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Additional weapons
Lancer didn't respond, so I'm throwing it over to you for advice.

I've put up every single ME3 weapon image, heavies included. I've also found images for the Synching Laser from Reaper Base and Geth Combat Software from Geth Fighters missions, but we have no apropriate pages. Should I get them done? The first one is technically a heavy weapon, and the GCS shares the crosshairs with those, so I assume it fits there too. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  23:17, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not familiar with either of those, I'm not that far in the game yet. But if, mechanically, these weapons fill the role of heavy weapons as seen elsewhere in the game, then I'd be fine with creating articles for them. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:25, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can wait for you to confirm this once you've seen them. They're specific to the missions in which they appear and I don't want to spoil things for you. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  23:39, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, you can go ahead. I read the leaked file back in November and I've been editing the wiki every day since launch, so there's not much left to spoil. It'll probably take a few more days for me to get to the missions where these weapons appear anyway, and I'd rather we have the articles up sooner. Also, just wondering, could you do the same thing for the multiplayer's Cobra Missile Launcher? I didn't want to make an article for that because I was sure there wasn't going to be any images or flavor text, but if it's in the same vein as the Synching Laser and GCS, we might as well. If not, I'll make a redirect for it. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:48, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can dig through the game, except I have no clue what that thing looks like. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  00:58, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Did it ever occur to you that I had other things to take care of? I didn't say anything because I had no objections. Lancer1289 01:10, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * You didn't confirm it either. So I went for a second opinion. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  01:28, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon Clip Edits
Can I ask why they are being edited? I'm putting those in because if they are used with clip upgrades thats potentially how much ammunition in a clip they have. JouninOfDespair 00:19, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * As I stated in the edit summaries, the template is intended to show only the basic, unaltered, non-upgraded stats for the weapons. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:22, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ok fair enough. Point taken. JouninOfDespair 00:24, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Husk
I've been thinking about the Husk page. I'm not sure if all synthetic creatures (organics changed to synthetic via reaper technology) are called husks or not, but I feel like the Husk page should be called something else that all of these synthetic creatures would be called. I'm sure the page was named Husk only because before ME3 all human husks were all there was. Your thoughts? KcBrN 00:26, March 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, ME3's Codex entries and other lore use "Husk" as a generalized term to refer all of the Reaper-converted synthetic creatures ("Troop Transports carry husks to unconquered planets...", "This has left [Irune's cities] vulnerable to husk attack...", etc.), so the way we have the article set up is correct. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:41, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Going off for a while
Commdor. Like I said earlier about not known when I'm going to be off, well it happened. I will be going off for a while, until about 9 pm CST. Figured you should know. Lancer1289 19:45, March 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll keep an eye out then. Since the lockdown is in place it should be much easier to manage. And I've almost beaten ME3! About to do Priority: Horizon, then it's finale time. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:54, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well it still looks like it was busy, but it appears to be a lot of blog comments. Miss anything big? Lancer1289 02:03, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope. Just lots of Trivia being added to various articles, and I went ahead and created a UD page for James. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:05, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Will do! Thanks. Jonny hirst 21:54, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Blocked User
Apparently you blocked me from commenting, just wondering why? Johncmousley 01:32, March 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * According to your block log, you have not been blocked. We did, however, implement a site-wide lockdown due to the unprecedented influx of editors. You account appears to have been made fairly recently, so it may not be autoconfirmed, and non-autoconfirmed users are unable to edit. Your account will be automatically autoconfirmed within a week, and then you can edit again. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:42, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey! I recently uploaded a photo to a talk-page ( http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/File:MassEffect22010-02-2723-55-36-97.jpg )

I felt it was very relevant to the discussion about Priority: Rannoch from Mass Effect 3, but I'm not sure how to cite it or if I have the right copyright details on it, or if I even need more of them. I'm not the first person to upload this picture from the internet

The screen-shot is directly taken from Mass Effect 2, and again, very much relates to the discussion at hand.

cheersJohncmousley 13:27, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Remember a Certain Mission...
...that we were having a debate over what form of the journal entry we should go with? Well I picked it up again and instead of Kallini: Ardat-Yakshi Monastery, it reads "Mesana: Distress Signal". I really give up on this. I'll see where it is when I start the mission, but if it switches to Lesuss, then I give up and I'm throwing the book at BioWare. Well, at least at the person who designed that. Lancer1289 20:40, March 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think what happens is the Mesana title switches to the Kallini one upon starting the mission. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:48, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

Project enemy character clean-up
Hey Commdor. May I direct you to this forum thread and provide some feedback and ideass? Will appreciate it very much and thanks! — Teugene (Talk) 03:24, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Mass Effect Wiki Twitter
Hello Commdor! At Wikia, we are trying to establish twitter feeds for some of our more popular and awesome wikis with some examples such as The Hunger Games Wiki and Avatar Wiki. I have already created the Mass Effect Wiki Twitter account, and was wondering if you or any other admins would be interested in contributing to it. Let me know! Bob (profile)•(talk)•(email) 17:41, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Multiplayer Store Section
I know that you initially set it up with bullet points, but as I see what seems to be the trend, BioWare releasing a new "Special" pack every week, and the fact that the rewards for each op appear to be the same, I reformatted the section into tables, because I think that it will be easier to format, and will be easier to work with. If you disagree, or find that I missed something, feel free to change it back, but feedback is welcome. Lancer1289 00:46, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

And it appears that my edit erased your talk page. So this is to make it render properly. I hate Wikia's caching issues at times. Lancer1289 00:47, March 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is a little problematic. Anyway, I'm fine with the new format for the Store section. If it gets significantly larger, though, we may want to consider a split. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:41, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Looking forward to writing on this Wiki, let me know if you need anything done. Sterlling (Talk)  03:10, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Premature deletion?
Hey Commdor, isn't the three pages that you just deleted is premature? IIRC, before any page is deleted (unless vandalism), a delete proposal should go up first. — Teugene (Talk) 17:07, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Not if its purpose and content is redundant with another article. If we had two articles, "Shop Guide" and "Merchant Guide" (or two articles covering the same character or mission, or anything else), and both had the same basic information, then the newer article would be deleted as redundant. Same situation with these faction articles and the individual enemy articles. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:10, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I might have missed this out because I can't remember about this point. Mind pointing to me where I can read more about it? — Teugene (Talk) 17:18, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't believe it's codified in policy, but it is common practice, especially when a new contributor makes an article for a subject we already have but misspells the title. Just last week someone created an article for "Inusannun", when we've long had a section for "Inusannon" on the Background Races article. In this case, I think the contributor who created these faction articles was well-intentioned, but apparently unaware of the Tactics sections in enemy articles that fulfill the same purpose. That's why we link to them in the main multiplayer article. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:34, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

SR-2 Split vote follow up.
I thought I had voted in the Normandy SR-2 split vote. I was sure I had. For the record I'd of voted in favor of the split. But I didn't vote and I am not going to go throwing a tantrum over a alteration to a wiki page. Just thought I'd put it out there that I was sure I had voted in favor of the split. Anyway, that's my two pennies. --Go Bruins! 03:18, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * You did post a topic on the talk page about the Normandy in ME3 having the SSV designation, maybe that's what you were thinking of. But it's unfortunate you didn't vote in the actual split discussion, that would have been enough for the split to be approved and carried out. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:34, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah probably. Maybe I thought either my vote would have been counted since I had been campaigning for the split (I still think it makes sense). Maybe I just thought I had actually voted. I didn't, so the point is moot. I can accept that. As you said. Unfortunate. Not going to throw a tantrum because that won't fix anything. Is there maybe a possibility the split vote can be re-opened in a week, month, or some other period of time...that way I could make sure to vote. --Go Bruins! 05:52, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. Usually, when a discussion on whether to delete, move, merge, or split an article takes place, that decision is treated as final, or rather it's considered bad form to put the issue up for discussion again unless there's some fresh, compelling reason for it. The idea is that the vote, a representation of the will of the ME Wiki community, should not be easily overturned, especially if the reason for a new vote is that someone simply didn't like the outcome of the previous one. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:24, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good. That's how it should be. I asked simply because I was hopeful, but I actually think that is the way it should be. confusing, I know. If the new vote ever is raised however I will be sure to vote, but I am ready to let this issue rest in peace at the bottom of the ocean next to the HMS Titanic or on Alchera next to the wreckage of the SSV Normandy whichever metaphor you prefer. Thank you for your kind responses and have a great day. --Go Bruins! 04:15, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to mention it is written in site policy that a week (seven full days) must pass between votes of that nature. Just throwing that out there. Lancer1289 04:23, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK Lancer, I wasn't going to propose another vote so soon. I actually asked what the waiting period was. I was told that these types of votes typically aren't rehashed. I am dropping it now. --Go Bruins/Go Red Sox! 04:38, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Back On
I should be back on as normal. What did I miss as it seems I missed a few things? Lancer1289 14:53, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was generally quiet, as usual the focus has been on the blogs. There may be a few edits that eluded my monitoring due to class and other obligations, however. One thing I did note was that the Equipment Guide (Mass Effect 3) page has undergone some rapid changes; at one point a user made 30 or so edits to the page while I was out that added new content but also changed the format of the lists from bullet points to numbers. Guide stuff isn't my forte, so I decided to leave the changes alone since they added new info and numbers may be an improvement. I'm sure you have a better idea of what to do with it. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:30, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I saw that, I did some work with it, but I'll probably take a look at it later. Currently, I wish to enjoy my spring break before Thursday and Saturday. Thursday evening from about 5:00 pm CST until I'd say about 10:00 pm CST, I won't be on, and Saturday, I'll be intermittent at best. It is Holy Week after all. Lancer1289 17:32, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. As long as my classwork doesn't ramp up unexpectedly, I should still be around to cover for those times. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:45, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just realized something, on Saturday, I will be one month away from finals! Great... Lancer1289 17:49, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Adding CSS for ME3 enemy infobox
Hey Commdor, is it possible for you to add CSS from here into the wiki's wikia.css to enable a wiki wide demonstration for the ME3 enemy infobox proposal? I need the following CSS starting from "/* ME3 enemy infobox 'health bar' */" and the 4 CSS classes with the ".ME3-Enemy-". — Teugene (Talk) 19:08, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * In the past, that is not how it has worked. It would always be the user pasted it into their personal CSS code. Usually CSS code isn't added until after the project is passed. Lancer1289 19:21, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand that. However, non wiki-savvy users might not have the know-hows of doing it and it's troublesome to have each user copy some bunch of code just to view something. Hence, this particular request so other users can see it without the hassle and if the proposal do not go through, just clear out the CSS after that. — Teugene (Talk) 19:29, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

ME multiplayer bugs
Hello. You removed my edits on ME3 multiplayer bugs, as i understood i need to add some proof links. But these bugs i've encountered several times by myself. Just wanted to share with other players. Any advice how to make it right? --Psysteel 14:37, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * You should start a discussion on the article's talk page detailing the bug and asking for verification from other users. All you need is one other user to confirm that they also experienced the bug under the same conditions, and it will then be permissible in the article. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:26, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

ME Predator Armor Pictures
Is it just me, or did the pictures on these armor pages disappear? Predator L/M/H Armor, Predator Armor Trandra 23:08, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * No; they're missing. -Mike Burke -- Go Bruins/Go Red Sox! 23:19, April 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Burkenation is correct. From what I can piece together, the images for those armor sets never existed here. In place of actual image files, we had redirects using those file names that linked to other image files. The way the ME armor info templates are set up, the files must be uploaded with very specific names in order to show up. Somehow, the images for each of the seven types of Predator armor were never uploaded. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:35, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. I wanted to fix the ones that can be fixed (since Predator = Mantis), but I have no idea how to edit the armor templates for the first game. Guess I'll leave that to someone else. Trandra 23:40, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Sirta Supplies
I was in the shop just 5 minutes ago, and the only things available to me were the first medi-gel upgrade and the whiskey.


 * You must have a game where Kaidan survived Virmire, then. Kaidan only gets the whiskey as a gift option, all of the other gifts are for Ashley and only available if Ashely survived. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:09, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

I *do* have that save. Although, even though I bought the whiskey I have not been able to give it to him yet. It will be interesting to see if I can, since I told him our romance was over, once he wakes up.

I want to help productively - sorry if I fumble around a lot - I try to follow conventions but this is a new process to me, and I sometimes screw up. Is there already somewhere in the Wiki where the gift options are discussed. Once I find out when I can give it to him, I can add something about gift options under Sirta Supplies. Although you may prefer to take care of that yourself? I would like to add it since I searched for TM88 to see what it was for and didn't really get an answer. --Strumpet101 04:13, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry to intrude. You give him the Whiskey automatically when he wakes up, which is after either a Priority or N7 mission, of course I mean "automatically" as in "when you visit him." --Go Bruins!/Go Red Sox!/Go Pats! 04:18, April 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added an explanation of the gifts to the Sirta Supplies article. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:35, April 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks great. Strictly, speaking, you don't need the "then" in the last clause ", then only the ..." - ", only the ..." is sufficient :) Thanks! This would be what I would have wanted to see when I went looking.--Strumpet101 04:38, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Removal of contributions by non-admin
I am wondering about the validity of another user, who isn't an admin, removing the contributions of another user in the Trivia section of pages.

Reference: Addition to Sha'ira's Trivia, making a link between the sex scene between her and [male] Shepard and the sex seen in the movie Titanic.--N7Legion 20:38, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not for nothing, Legion, but this wiki has a very specific definition of "Trivia" and what is acceptable for the Trivia section...and at least in my opinion (granted I am not an Admin) the trivia you added was not trivia. But I'll leave it to this wiki's governing body to decide. --Go Bruins!/Go Red Sox!/Go Pats! 20:44, April 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Trivia sections are treated no differently than other article sections when it comes to who can edit them. Any user can add or remove trivia items, but whether those edits will be allowed to stand is a different matter. In this case, if I had known about the Titanic trivia on Sha'ira's article, I would have removed it for being a subjective comparison (the most common kind of trivia that isn't permitted), but anyone else who noticed it would have been fully within their rights to remove it themselves. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:50, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Spammer
Hi there Commdor. I've already messaged Lancer about this but since you're on and he doesn't seem to be I figured I'd shoot you a message as well. User:Sandros12 appears to be a spambot. He has posted a blog post linking to a fishy health insurance site and also attempted to link to said site through a mainspace article. Just thought you should know. Thanks for your time.--WouldYouKindly 17:07, April 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Taken care of. Thank you for informing me. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:15, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Geth Infiltrator
I don't know why you deleted my Article? I was just trying to give insite on the Geth Infiltrator. I had some more Info and it said you deleted it while i was editing. Please at least tell me where I can wirte about this.


 * You created an article about a multiplayer class prematurely. The community is the midst of discussing how to format and create multiplayer class articles, and until the discussion is concluded and the details hashed out, such articles should not be created. If you wish to discuss the Geth Infiltrator multiplayer character in the meantime, you should create a Forum page or User Blog post about it. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:15, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Normal
Well yesterday was both chaotic and tiring for me. I spent a lot more time doing things than I thought, but I should be on today as normal and for the foreseeable future except when I have class. What did I miss? From what I could see, yesterday wasn't that busy. Lancer1289 17:35, April 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was mostly blog comments again, relatively quiet. Might want to keep an eye on the M-55 Argus article, it seems like two users are on the verge of a slo-mo edit war. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:49, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I've been following that. If it continues, then I'll do something. Blogs seem to be increasing popular don't they. Lancer1289 17:55, April 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep. The blogs are getting a little annoying, though, I see the same users post the same negative comments about BioWare or ME3's ending on a near-daily basis. I'm stuck reading them because there's no way to permanently filter blog comments from Recent Changes. I've seen a few users, new and old, say a few things that have made me shake my head. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:03, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've been reading them when I can, and I have to agree, some comment make me shake my head as well. Unfortunately we can't check people's opinions, and there are even a few that I agree with. I'm not exactly happy with a few things BioWare did with ME3, but overall, IMO, it was a great game with the exception of the ending. Lancer1289 18:05, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's just too bad that most people can't move past the bad ending and embrace the 99% of the game that was good. I've seen people saying that the entire trilogy should be considered among the worst games ever made solely because of how ME3's ending turned out. It's sad to see such irrationality. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:21, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

CSS for adversary infobox (redux)
Hey Commdor, just an update, the ME3 Adversary Infobox Template project voting period has concluded and more people are in favour for option 4. I would like to implement this template soon and would like to ask your help to add this CSS below necessary for the template. Thanks in advance for your assistance!

/* ME3 enemy infobox 'health bar' */ .ME3-Enemy-HB-Container { width: 200px; height: 62px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; background: url('http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120412022902/masseffect/images/e/ef/ME3_Enemy_Container.png') no-repeat; margin: 4px auto; } .ME3-Enemy-HB-Container div { width:172px; margin:auto; vertical-align:top; } .ME3-Enemy-text { height:20px; padding-top:5px; } .ME3-Enemy-health { height:30px; padding-top:1px; background: url('http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120412022629/masseffect/images/2/2a/ME3_Enemy_Background.png') no-repeat center 1px; }

— Teugene (Talk) 03:28, April 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:31, April 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks once again! — Teugene (Talk) 03:51, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Marauder Shields Trivia
I wanted your opinion on this first, but I was thinking of leaving a message on the talk page and embedding some text into the article about the "trivia" and how it doesn't meet standards. What's your opinion on that? I already have something typed up.

I also think that any further rendition of it should result in immediate removal, I'm going to just hit rollback, with no explanation. Opinions on that? Lancer1289 18:34, April 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm all for it. As fan material, the Marauder Shields meme is irrelevant in articles anyway. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:44, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright then. I'll put it up. It will be different because I took a nap and then my computer decided to download updates, and then restart. Isn't technology great? Lancer1289 19:59, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Menae
Thank you for correcting the info on Menae!--BrewCrew4Life21 23:21, April 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm happy to help. 23:24, April 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Commdor, I'm thinking that the template could be adjusted to allow "classified" as its value. I'll test it on some templates that I have in my sandbox for an upcoming project and see if it could work. — Teugene (Talk) 01:49, April 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you can get it to work, let me know and I'll delete the Menae-specific template. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:00, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I almost forgot to leave you a note about the modifications I've made to the moon template. The Menae article has been reverted to its previous template with fully functioning "classified" values. — Teugene (Talk) 20:34, April 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good job. I'll delete the Menae template. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:36, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Presidium Commons
I could use your input. Could you please visit the Presidium Commons page. There are some... anomalies. I'm not sure how to explain it. Just thought you should know.--BrewCrew4Life21 02:29, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dealt with. Lancer1289 02:35, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh thank you. I wasn't quite sure of what to do there.  It seemed as though there was supposed to be a map with areas of interest highlighted.--BrewCrew4Life21 02:36, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Opinion
Commdor, I would like your opinion on this. Frankly, I am thinking of banning him for an unacceptable user name and violation of the site's language policy, but I'd like a second opinion. Lancer1289 21:45, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * He's pushing the envelope with his username, but since there's no explicit offensive language in it I'm willing to let it go. If you feel strongly about it then suggest that he apply to have his username changed, but I don't think it's block-worthy of itself. It's possible he may never return to the wiki anyway. But everything else is a different case. I'm not sure the language policy applies to personal user spaces aside from blog posts. If it does, then he's definitely in violation, but if not, I'd play it safe and give him a strong warning about the policy, and encourage him to change his user info to something less ostentatious. -- Commdor  (Talk) 22:01, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Suitable images
Hey. What qualifies as a suitable image? is .jpg not allowed?


 * Images in the .jpg format are permitted, but .png is very strongly preferred. But the issue with your image isn't the format. Unfortunately, it's just too blurry or out of focus and doesn't depict its subject clearly. If you're taking photos from a console version of ME3, that may be what's causing the problem. Generally, our PC users are the ones who acquire screenshots and other images for the wiki because of the superior quality of direct screenshots and access to game assets. As such, we have high quality standards that we enforce, even if that means an article has to go without an image for some time. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:39, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

ah i see. Ill try to avoid those types of mistakes. --user: awayorafk

Re: Talk:Powers (Mass Effect 3)
Please review the proposal for the addition of a Recharge Times Formula to the Powers (Mass Effect 3) page. I wasn't satisfied with the level of communication provided by a different Admin.

In addition, could you clarify what information can and cannot be posted? It appeared to be the position (he wouldn't provide more than curt comments) of the other Admin that if it isn't visible on screen in the game and it's not written by some representative of the Game, it cannot be posted on this Wiki. I challenge that idea.

In my field, we cannot rely on published data alone. If it isn't explained how something works, I design an experiment, collect data, establish repeatability of the test and I make my conclusion from it. This is what was done with the recharge time formulas. Data was collected, a curve was fit, and from that curve a formula was determined. That formula was then used to predict expected values and those values matched the prediction. In my world, that's a successful experiment with verifiable results.

This is where I am coming from and why I wasn't satisfied with the answers I had been given.


 * Lancer's right, for speculative material like this we would require developer confirmation that it is correct. Confirmation doesn't have to come in the form of BioWare publishing the formula, though, what we need is a statement from a verified member of BioWare affirming that your formula is on the nose. This can be in an email, a BSN forum post, a Twitter conversation, and so on. I'm afraid we have to be firm on this requirement. In the meantime, if you still want to share this information in a visible manner, I recommend posting it in a user blog or the forums here. I'm sure some of our readers would like to be aware of this and discuss it; perhaps recognition could lead to that confirmation. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:39, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Rename titles
Since we are changing article titles for characters to their full names here is a list that have not been changed: Ledra, Lieutenant Durand, Lieutenant Zabaleta. Also, unrelated to the current question, should we add a link to the new ANN report to Lieutenant Girard since he was mentioned at the end of the news report?Typhoonstorm95 03:17, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

So what did I miss?
Sorry for not coming on yesterday. I had a lot of things to do yesterday. However, it appears to have been a light day. Lancer1289 19:03, April 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep, pretty light. But only another week or so until the lockdown ends, so be prepared. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:05, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't remind me. Also you may want to check out Blasto (Fictional) and associated talk page. I seriously can't believe that. Lancer1289 20:08, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Or you already did. Lancer1289 20:08, April 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was a split without a discussion, so it violated policy and warranted immediate deletion. I'm also unsure why the suffix "(Fictional)" was necessary, considering there's no real Blasto in the ME universe. If the author wants there to be a separate article for Blasto again (which I still think I disagree with, but I digress), he needs to follow proper procedures and get community approval. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:15, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Rannoch edit
hey I just wanted to know what you though of my edit I did on the Rannoch page. --Jmoonz91042 00:26, April 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I had to undo it because it wasn't appropriate for the article. ME Wiki has a specific format for planet articles, and commentary on how the outcomes of certain missions may affect the descriptions given in the game for certain planets isn't permitted. But the fate of the quarians/geth after the battle in Priority: Rannoch is thoroughly explained in other articles. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:33, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

General Query
Hey Commdor

On talk pages, after everyones posts, they always leave their name, date and time. Does this have to be done manually, or is there another way?

Thanks


 * As far as I'm aware, signing comments can only be done manually. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:34, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Deletions?
Where exactly are you getting all of this from? You have done a lot of deletions over the last few days and I can't seem to tell where you are getting them from. Lancer1289 22:14, April 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * From Special:UnusedFiles. Before I started, there were around 1,000 unused files sitting in it. I'm trying to delete 100 or so a day, from oldest to the newest. Not sure where I am now, but I hope to be done in a week or so. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:25, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Grunt Edit
Since everything I have posted so far has been taken down, I would like to ask for your help on an edit I would like to make. It will be on Grunt's page. I am not exactly sure what I want to post, but, I feel that there could be more information there. I just feel that there is more to tell; his character is a little more in-depth than that I think. Thank you for your help and input on any past and future edits. --Jmoonz91042 22:44, April 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I can't do the work for you. It's not that I disagree that the content of the Grunt article should be expanded, but I don't know exactly what to add, if anything. If you don't know what to add yourself, I recommend starting a discussion on the article's talk page requesting help so that the community can take notice and hopefully provide what's needed. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:00, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

To clear up any misunderstandings, I wasn't asking for you to do the work for me. I just wanted your input because I am new to this kind of thing and I don't want to add anything that will just be taken down. It wastes your time as well as mine. From what I've seen, you are a very knowledgable individual on the ME games and I just wanted to "hear" what you have to say. --Jmoonz91042 23:25, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm just going to try it on my own please feel free to check my work as it is you right being an admin. --Jmoonz91042 23:34, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

I see that you took out what i added to Grunts page could you please tell me what was wrong with what I added, as the constructive criticism is good for me because I am just starting out. --Jmoonz91042 23:56, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

I was just wondering if there is a miscellaneous page that contains small details that don't necessarily effect the game or something like that. If there is not could you please tell me how to create a new page. There is something from ME3 I would like to add. It is the tooth brush Traynor spoke of near the beginning of the game. I know that is not that big of a deal but I would like to add it. Any help you could give on the page would be much appreciated. Also, if there is anything else you come across that you feel I should make a page for like the aforementioned one I would be happy to make it. Thank you --Jmoonz91042 23:57, April 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you're referring to trivia or unique dialogue. Most articles have dedicated trivia sections for that sort of information. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:04, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

I was referring to the fact that Grunt is a berserker and that all krogan berserkers have those things in common and also what you said. I remembered some of it from ME2--Jmoonz91042 00:20, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sock-puppetry
I've had a hunch the users Nooie and Jakeycous were sock-puppets since that Elcor Bouncer ‎article but no way to proof it. How did you find out? — Teugene (Talk) 01:16, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Small Fix / DPL
I made a little change to fix the template. It appears to be correct with my Firefox and IE7-9 (although I noticed something else really bad in IE7). Could you check if it's working fine for yours too (you might need to clear your browser cache)?

Also on a separate note, I noticed the Dynamic Page Linking (DPL) used by some planet articles to include portions from the Codex appears to be bugged. Some of the transclusion appears duplicated (example: Illium) but some are not (Tuchanka). I don't have a clue what is causing this at the moment. Tried digging for clues from wikimedia but no luck yet. — Teugene (Talk) 19:41, April 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * The templates appear to be the correct width now. Thanks for addressing that so quickly. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:03, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Planet edits
What's the procedure for adding non-codex information to planet pages? Is that even allowable? For example, in ME3, Diana Allers says that Bekenstein was attacked and bombarded from orbit by the Reapers. Would it be okay to put that in and should it be put under trivia or under a new ME3 heading? Thanks. TheUnknown285 21:50, April 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe information like that is permissible under Trivia sections in planet articles. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:57, April 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. What about for more prominent worlds like Thessia or Illium?  TheUnknown285 22:20, April 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * The same should apply to those as well, although a Trivia blurb for Thessia explaining it fell under Reaper attack would be unnecessary because the Description already notes this. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:04, April 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. Thanks again.  TheUnknown285 23:08, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

There is a disagreement between the admins on this topic. A few days ago, Lancer removed similar trivia from the pages for several planets. TheUnknown285 19:07, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's his prerogative. It might be for the best that this info is noted somewhere other than planet articles (news reports should be transcribed in the News Stories article, dialogue from major characters should go in their unique dialogue pages, and so on). -- Commdor (Talk) 19:22, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Uploading Videos
so sorry- I had no idea! I won't do again. Omega958 20:19, April 29 2012 (UTC)

Here It Comes
Well, it finally arrived. The lockdown is over. Hopefully we won't see spam for a while, but one can hope. When the lockdown was put in place, Brandon said that if we need more time, then it can be done. Lancer1289 19:09, April 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm willing to take the wait-and-see approach. I think things will be quieter now that launch is nearly two months behind us. But I would like your response on that certain email issue soon, part of the reason I proposed it was to prepare for post-lockdown. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:45, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I completley forgot about that with everything that has been happening the last two weeks. I'll look into it later tonight as I have to get off now. Why do teachers love to give out homework in mountain size elements with only one week until finals?! Next week is going to drive me crazy. Lancer1289 20:04, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Vagi- I mean hey
Hey, it's ashleywilliamshusband. You said you were going to unban me? I'm still banned. Can you help with this?69.131.150.126 01:12, May 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your account should now be unblocked. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:12, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. However, I expect you to have an improved attitude after forgetting to unban me. Everyone makes mistakes, but you should've been more considerate. Very unwise.

Nah, I'm just kidding. Thanks.Ashleywilliamshusband 02:32, May 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, I didn't forget. The block on your account did in fact expire as intended back in January, but your old account was still blocked and somehow that affected your new account. It was an unexpected quirk in the system, and for that I apologize. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:40, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

lol, lets go to a bar sometime.Ashleywilliamshusband 02:46, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

So this guy
clearly made an account just so they could post their blog as a copy paste of the wikipedia Adolf Hitler article. Crackenback46. Just a heads up as to their shenanigans.--Xaero Dumort 05:12, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Taken care of. Lancer1289 15:35, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Image Wanted Pages
So I was looking through the pages on the Articles Needing Screenshots lists and alot of the pages no longer need to be on that list or have the images wanted header. I wanted to know if it was ok if I took them off the list and removed the header.--BrewCrew4Life21 22:27, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Taken care of. Note that while many of the pages that still have the pics wanted tag already have some images, those images are either inadequate and need to be replaced first, or specific additional images are necessary to round out the article. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:49, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh thank you very much.--BrewCrew4Life21 23:18, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

It's nice isn't it?
With the release months behind us and the lockdown officially over things have returned to normal it seems. To quote Joker "We're just enjoying the calm before the -expletive- storm." Although for the foreseeable future the expletive storm won't be coming. Thank god.--BrewCrew4Life21 04:32, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Your Attention Please
Hi Commdor, May I direct your attention to two discussions that I was involved with Lancer? It is only after waiting for some time and putting this reminder ( User_talk:Lancer1289 ) on his talk page that I got to know that he is facing some examinations these days. So if it is not illegal or unethical for you to get involved, can you please come and solve the issues pertaining to the discussions at Talk:Aria:_Blue_Suns and Talk:Irune:_Book_of_Plenix. Thank you in advance. :-D --NisansaDdS 15:34, May 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Update; Thank you for your quick reply at Talk:Irune:_Book_of_Plenix. Can you please look in to Talk:Aria:_Blue_Suns as well? :-) --NisansaDdS 17:57, May 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, again. Now we have 4 people complaining at Talk:Aria:_Blue_Suns; User:Burkenation, Carsten210195 , TheUnknown285 and myself. I again implore you to consider this issue. --NisansaDdS 04:38, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I still wouldn't count Burkenation since so much time has elapsed since his original post, but that's moot because you still have the three necessary users to add mention of the bug to the article. You're clear to add the bug. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:49, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much!!! --NisansaDdS 05:04, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

M-90 Indra
I don't know why you deleted my edit. I'm looking at it in my selection screen right now on Xbox 360. As for the broken sup tag, that part I'm sure you were justified. I don't know how to verify it. Hefe 19:56, May 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * We need official confirmation from BioWare that this isn't due to a bug or a mistake, that the item was officially added. The Indra has only been announced as a PC bonus item for single-player, and there was no prior indication that it would suddenly be available on all platforms in multiplayer. If BioWare says nothing over the next few days and the Indra remains available, then we'll discuss adding it to the article. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:01, May 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Gotcha. In that case, thanks. Hopefully we'll get some form of comfirmation soon. There's a bunch of posts on the BioWare forums about it. Hefe 20:15, May 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Posts from random people on the BSN forms are not enough confirmation. Because of the nature of the weapon, devconfirmation is needed. Lancer1289 23:42, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

What gives? I edited that this way early yesterday (wasn't signed in) to add this weapon and this has been verified by Eric Fagnan of Bioware. SOMEONE undid it. I wasn't signed in to know.

I then edited it again while signed in and you undid it.

If Bioware changes their mind and unceremoniously pulls back the massive number of Indras or stops giving them out, wouldn't it make sense to THEN undo people's edits rather than undo them now when it's obvious and confirmed that Bioware IS giving them out?

I do understand that wikis can become a wild west but this one....I mean come on....


 * It's established policy that information of this nature must be sourced. If you are aware of an official BioWare statement regarding the release of the Indra in multiplayer, all you have to do is provide that source and the information can stand. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:18, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * (Edit conflict) First, there's already a topic above, you should have continued the discussion there. Secondly, I saw that supposed screenshot of Eric answering in the forums, but it remains a screenshot. I couldn't find the actual forum thread and his recent activity in his forum profile did not indicate any such reply, which leads me to believe that the forum thread screenshot is fake. So, in addition to the reason above, there's still no confirmation so far yet. Not even in the recent MP balancing update. — Teugene (Talk) 03:23, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Just to confirm, if weapons were added to the game and Bioware never says "Hey we added [those] weapons to the game", you'd leave the info off the wiki yet it's obvious that everyone else knows it's there (and are using those weapons)? Furthermore, instead of pulling back the information if and when this TRUE "as of right now" information is deemed a glitch across multiple platforms, you pull it off NOW while the information is....fact? It's pretty simple to let info stand and crush it if Bio pulls it back (even from packs people pay for) like with anything things else they may change. Balance updates seem to be changes to weapons, powers, credits, etc. If you need a source, there are multiple gameplay videos showcasing it. I got mine yesterday afternoon. You seem to be well on top of the wiki since you are quick to edit other's edits. However, why undo true info multiple times while it's actually and factually true? You could just undo it when and if it turns out to be false.

Just my two cents at logic and frankly, less work.--Busyman 04:03, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, eventually (as I've previously mentioned in this discussion) we would add it anyway if BioWare is not forthcoming with an official explanation and it cannot be concluded that the M-90 Indra is a fluke of some kind. But we would prefer a source, and it won't hurt to wait a while for one. We don't allow unverified information to be added to the wiki because it's far too easy for someone to add completely false info. Yes, there are times like this when a source may not be as necessary as others, but the policy must be enforced evenly (and again, we can afford to wait for sources). -- Commdor (Talk) 04:29, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Gotcha. You do know that this is not completely false info, right? My point was that it's easier to let info stand that you know is true versus undoing it multiple times and discussing why. Completely false info is another story. Not everything will be part of an announcement. People have been getting Indras for at least 2 days now across multiple platforms. For me, it came along with the offering of PSPs.--Busyman 04:43, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm aware players are getting the Indra from standard item packs. I believe the reports for the most part. And yes, maybe it would be easier to let the info stand, but I'm surprised BioWare has been completely mum on this. They post weekly weapon stat tweaks, but not that a new weapon is now obtainable? Not even on Twitter or Facebook? This is unusual, and it warrants some caution. -- Commdor (Talk) 05:47, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Just a suggestion but maybe the page should be locked, if possible, until verification is available. The edits just keep showing up and I imagine it's getting infuriating for the admins. Hefe 15:30, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * ....or you could have followed my suggestion and left the Indra there and do the opposite and remove it when and if it's deemed a fluke (across 3 platforms). Frankly, not having it there is ignoring facts. The wiki is a great spot for ME info so Iactually went to the MP portion of ME3 to look the weapon up. It wasn't there and that's when I made the edit initially. Now, anyone else looking it up won't find it there either. They will need to use a separate search for the weapon and, as of right now, will get INCORRECT INFORMATION such as it only being available on PC and such. I am surprised that an announcement is needed for something that is smacking you in the face. At this point, so many people have the weapon that it's ridiculous.
 * If Bio announces the Indra, leaves it up for a month, then removes it claiming it was a mistake, it would need to be removed so....what's the diff now? Yeesh. Pretty darn simple.--Busyman 20:55, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is simple. It's been two days and BioWare hasn't said anything. Which means it could be removed very soon. It is better to wait and see if it sticks around then to make the edits and remove them then. Until it has been around for enough time or until BioWare says so, it should not be edited. Just be patient. This wiki has never (to my knowledge) jumped the gun on anything. Researched and empirical facts are better than fleeting ones.--Xaero Dumort 20:58, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Eh? It makes the wiki incorrect for one thing. Everyone is pretty much on top of the wiki. Facts present themselves, info changes. Facts present otherwise, info changes back. In this case, multiple people have looked in, saw wrong info (yes, it was wrong), changed it, then instead of letting it stand since it was factual, multiple times people came through to undo it so the info was....wait for it....incorrect. The Indra being available in MP is an empirical fact. Everything besides an announcement says so. The is available across multiple platforms through item packs earned with credits or bought with REAL money. We are entering common sense territory....
 * This is not a case of someone presenting false info. Now anyone looking into this wiki gets incomplete or wrong info. If Bio changes it, you undo it to reflect the correct info again. Logic wins...oh wait.--Busyman 21:06, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * This doesn't make the wiki incorrect. It makes the wiki a staunch defender in ensuring things are indeed factual and not mistakes. You want to change the info, great. Prove that this isn't a mistake by BioWare after trying to repair the commendations, because it looks like that is the most likely thing. Logic is winning. Until we know that this is here to stay it has no place in the article. Waiting for answers is different than putting in wrong information and removing it later. Provide a source that matches the sources we use. That's what we're looking for. Because until there is a source that is official or until there is confirmation of no change, the info is still unknown. There are no empirical facts other than people are getting the gun. Which just like when the ME2 weapon DLC was leaked before the game released for free, only amounts to trivia information at best. We ensure that things are official in items like this BECAUSE there is precedent for mistakes on BioWare's end.--Xaero Dumort 23:48, May 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was on the receiving end of such ME2 DLC and it was already confirmed that it was a mistake when it was leaked. Not the same whatsoever. Funny enough, I was just on ME3 MP and 2 players were dumbfounded as to why that it wasn't on the ME wiki. "I looked it up on the Mass Effect Wiki and it didn't have info on it." I told him he has to look up "Indra" separately and not just weapons in the MP section. You want me to prove something given out in the game is not a mistake yet that something is paid for by many. People are throwing around the word "empirical" without knowing what it means. My stance is the very definition of "empirical". What you want is an announcement which has nothing to do with empirical evidence in this case. My "empirical evidence"? People are shown across multiple platforms to be getting the weapon. That is a FACT now going on 3 days. FACT, the Mass Effect Wiki which is policed by the community has users that are removing this FACT from the Wiki. You say it doesn't hurt to wait. I say waiting is worse than not. People are using this wiki to look up weapons in MP and not finding it yet so that's a failure of the wiki. The wiki does not match the game. If the weapon gets removed, the wiki users can remove it so the wiki matches the game. I can take the other side and say prove that it is a glitch right now or it DOES hurt to wait.....certainly more than it would to have it in the wiki. You have ZERO empirical facts to back up that it is a glitch. Hell, if the weapon gets snatched, users that paid money for item packs would have a bone to pick. The most I can see happening? The weapon gets pulled from being offered or being offered through normal item packs from here on out and superscript would need to be added explaining the weapon's existence in MP.....still in the wiki. Logic wins again.--Busyman 02:18, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Still waiting on your source that this isn't a glitch. When you can offer that, it won't be an issue. That's the FACT you keep ignoring. Otherwise if it gets pulled but people who do have it are allowed to keep it, then there still is no issue in adding it. I think it's silly, really I do. I completely agree that it is being done on purpose and is now a legitimate part of the game. But to put it in without confirmation or this early without waiting to see if it is glitch. The problem is pushing misinformation. "Slow" on putting it up while detrimental in some ways, isn't going to hurt people by forcing them to search the weapon a different way. We have to hold the article to the same standards we hold all others. That's all there is to it.--Xaero Dumort 04:00, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * You may never get confirmation in which case the sole purpose for the wiki, information, was a failure to mete out.....information. The standard has been slapping you in the face for days now. This would be no different than a confirmed addition being removed which would require another edit.--Busyman 09:59, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Merge proposal on the Asari Assistant article
On the Asari Assistant article there is a merge proposal to include its content into the Scientist article.

On the talk page the only comment is the one presented by the proposer. The seven day period has since passed but the proposal itself changes the current guideline in place (although for this one article, but still a change).

Should this article be merged or does this needs to be discussed on the Projects Forum? --silverstrike 07:28, May 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Even though the specified voting period was over, the merge had not taken place and the discussion had not been formally closed, so I voted against the proposed merge before closing it. Since the "Asari Assistant" is a different enough enemy from the "Scientist", it still warrants its own article despite having the same name as another enemy. I've proposed moving the article to a title more in line with its in-game moniker, "Scientist (asari)". -- Commdor (Talk) 16:44, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll take a look at the proposal and cast my vote.
 * Just for future reference, what is our "rule of thumb" regarding proposals that are past their voting period (and passed) but that conflict with current established guidelines? Should the proposer be directed to the Projects forum, or should an admin be notified and handled by him (if something happens once, it will happen again)? --silverstrike 17:01, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Generally speaking, if a proposal conflicts with established guidelines (regardless of it being past its voting period and/or approved), it shouldn't go through until the guidelines have been changed via the Policy Forum. In this case, the merge proposal was not only in violation of guidelines stipulating every unique enemy gets an article, but it had only one vote submitted by the proposer. If it had been closed with no additional votes and carried out, I would have had to reverse it and require a second proposal to give the community another chance to respond. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:32, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal
User "86.147.169.201" vandalized the Mordin article. TheUnknown285 00:00, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I got him not too long ago. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:03, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Entertainment Page
I edited the entertainment page not long ago and added a section on the Raloi band: Featherstar. This is from Cerberus Daily News. I have seen many other articles containing information from Cerberus Daily News, so how come you deleted it? Omega958 22:06, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * The information you are adding is not from genuine Cerberus Daily News reports. This website (which I assume is where you're getting it from) posts its own, fan-made CDN reports. They are not associated with the official CDN reports posted by BioWare in any way and are not canon. ME Wiki maintains an archive of all official CDN reports at Cerberus Daily News. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:12, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh! So Sorry, I thought it was genuine. I shan't do it again. Omega958 22:15, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Gryll and Kreete
Not too long ago, I made two pages about Kreete and Gryll, in Aria:Blood Pack. These two people have equal amount of importance as Jona Sideris and Sayn, of Aria:Eclipse, and yet my two pages were a candidate for deletion, and not the other two. My articles have more information then that of the eclipse characters. Could you please explain? Omega958 09:45, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * How each article is handled is decided on a case-by-case basis. New articles are always closely scrutinized to see if they meet our standards, while older articles are either assumed to be vetted or have been kept due to previous community discussion. Just because an article hasn't been nominated for deletion/merge/redirect before, however, doesn't mean it can't be now. The Jona Sederis article is currently nominated for deletion, while a merge has been proposed for Sayn. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:25, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Policy Forum Violation
I have closed the discussion on Forum:Blog Moderation II for violation of site policy. This is because you violated what it stated on the main page of the forum "...if a topic needs to be reopened, a mandatory 7 day waiting or cooldown period must be adhered to. This is to test out the new policy and see what its effects are. Once the 7-day period is up, start a new discussion, do not continue the old one as the old page is for archive purposes only." Adding to that, from the Community Guidelines, "[i]f the decision was to keep the article or not perform the merge, move, or split, then a week "cooldown" period must be allowed before the issue can be brought up again". I know that previously it said that "In most cases..." however, this has not only been inaccurate, but is ambiguous and doesn't match up to how it has worked in the past with anything that is done on the site. You are free to open a new forum on May 13, but not before then. I did not look at the page history closely and initially informed the wrong person, so I am now correcting that. Regardless, this is something that has been practiced for quite some time. Lancer1289 19:07, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I forgot about that. I'll re-re-propose it next week, then. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:45, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Geth
I noticed that you removed my additions to the fleet section of the Geth page. What did I do wrong so that I may correct the problem and avoid it in the future? Thank you Jedijam91 03:08, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't remove the changes per se, I combined the paragraph with another and reworded it all to flow better. One thing you should keep in mind, however, is that all race names (except Reaper, Collector, and Prothean) are lowercased in wiki articles (like so: geth, human, salarian, etc.). This is to keep the wiki's style in line with the games themselves, which also display the race names as lowercase. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:37, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Relatively Slow Night...
wasn't it? There wasn't a lot of serious activity and anything that did happen was quickly undone. I cannot wait until this week is over as finals are getting to me. Although tomorrow is my last day, I have three! So don't expect me on at any point tomorrow until say after 7pm CST. Felt I should give you a heads up.

And has anything happened with that email I sent you? It's been a while now. Lancer1289 17:49, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. As for the email, Spart has all of our input but he tells me he's been pretty busy lately. I expect we'll see things in motion by the end of the week. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:16, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Characters
Hi Commdor Do you think I or you could add 'Harbinger' or 'Reapers' to the characters page under Mass Effect 3, Adversaries? I only think this, because Harbinger is the biggest enemy and is the main enemy of the trilogy. Do you agree? Omega958 19:49, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have already spoken on this topic, and it is not relevant because of Harbinger's very minor role in ME3. You did not listen last time. Lancer1289 20:30, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * But Harbinger is the main enemy of he trilogy!! He is the one controlling all the reaper forces, which are more than half of the enemies you kill throughout the entire game! You can't be saying the main enemy of the game has a minor role! Also, I asked for Commdor's opinion. Omega958 21:00, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok when do you see him and for how long? What, like for 10 seconds? That isn't worth nothing. And I should also note that you already asked my opinion on this, and without waiting for a reply, which you waited not even a half hour, before doing it anyway. Lancer1289 21:08, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Updating the MoS
I've started working on an updated version to the Manual of Style page(s) and I'd like your input on it. I created a pseudo proposal (not in the projects forum as it relates only to the admins) with links to the relevant sandbox pages.

Thanks for your time. --silverstrike 11:13, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Categorizing Redirects
Due to the much debate surrounding the minor characters merge/delete, should we start to categorize redirects that deal with pages who does not have enough original content to stay? In that way we can still have the characters (in this example) presence in the wiki without the need for redundant or duplicated content in pages.

I was unsure if I should submit this as a proposal or not (as it affect many pages)? --silverstrike 16:30, May 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've been considering this, it's probably a good idea and it wouldn't require a proposal. Feel free to add the appropriate categories to any redirects you come across. I'll also refrain from removing them from articles being merged or redirect from now on. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:33, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, we have exactly 1,000 redirects so this might take a while :P. --silverstrike 16:48, May 14, 2012 (UTC)