User blog comment:Kaloneous/Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC Denied and PAX/@comment-1841436-20120320221509/@comment-1841436-20120321023815

''If the links having been provided cannot persuade you, I very seriously doubt that I can. '' I say the same to my rebuttals.

''What you are forgetting however is that getting someone on the Citadel is the only way of winning in the war against the Reapers. The strategic value of every other battle is null and void if this plan fails, and unlike the protheans who fought a war of attrion, this cycle has pooled all (available and "earned should you have done so in game) resources on this one push. So its hard to imagine that this area is of upmost importance, and is not being examined with exact detail. '' True, but they DO say that everything is going into this attack. And it failed. So... yeah. Plus, again, troops ARE sent in. if anything Shep is lucky he reached the thing in time.

You are also assuming that the Turians brought farming equipment (seeds/spores/something of this nature) Why... why would they ever have to BRING this? A plow isn't ahrd to make.

to grow and that it is possible to be done so on Earth. Well they DO continue to HAVE ships. not to mention they can create sealed areas as nesesary with all their stuff. We see Makos, and they're supposed to be sealed against atmsphere. Maybe they can use them in some way.

Both Quarians and Turians cannot eat food that humans can, I know. I said tat, didn;t I?

and I believe that goes the same when reversed. Taken into account with all questions about this.

While the Quarians do have ships we cannot know whether they left the ships holding such resources on Rannoch or if they brought them, Those big, bulbous things you see when first getting into the system? That's their live ships, i memory serves me correct. If I am wrong, please point it out. They use those to grow food.

"but in either event it would be in poor planning to bring these "glass cannons" into battle since they hold all the Quarians necessities." The used them against the Get, why are the reapers different? They didn't need them as badl, considering the pristine condition of Rannoch. Plus can you imagine the numebr on guns that could fit on one f those? Boom, baby.

These ships could not support the populations of both races, and while yes, there are great deals of wreckage from the battle Turians in need of supplies could easily be reason enough for the Quarians to flee the area. Not ALONE, no, but then that's why they would ahve to build infrastructure. Said it ebfore, saying it again, hard down not mean cannot happen. Also after all that you think the Quarrians would up and abandon their allies like that? Reapers are dead/gone. Everyone might have to work out the whole cyborg thing. After all that helping each other out, I personally think they'd stay and help. But as I said, if you want to think the belak, go right ahead. Subjective stories are subjective, and unknown futures are unknown. But I like to think hopeful.

As for the Mass Relays being built, neither you nor I can actually know how long it would take to reverse engineer, but it should be noted that raw reasources in the system are realatively depleated and you can only expect so much from destroyed ship hulls. Agreed. Course they DO have a badly damaged relay they can use for parts, so there's that. And it's at least implied that they do SOMETHING. The Stargazer talks about space travel like it ain't no thang. Or at last I got that from him. Again, subjective sotries. Maybe you took it different.

Then there is the problem of timing, with things like food and especially clean drinking water in limited amounts and needed in high demand,  Not as high as before. Rememebr, Earth's population is devastated, as were the fleets you brought.

could a mass relay be built in time? Might end up here it's not even eneded to survive. They might do fine on their own. Again, hope vs despair.

''And could it be used to find resources before the races kill each other off? '' They were working fine before. Why the automatic assumption that they could never work together? I asked that same thing some time ago in all of this. Krogan might be an issue, but if Wrex can keep up his promises of change, and have some population control, well....

''the squad members who had been with Shepard could have been picked up via shuttle. I ask you how?'' By flying it? Sorry, had to make that joke.

An experienced pilot was shot down easily, and way before the 15min of WTF occurs, yet a shuttle managed to slip in and pick up the crew and make it back to the Normandy unharmed...that is more than a stretch. Well it's not 15. There are indeterminate ammoutns of time throughout. how long between battlefeidls, how long were these vehicle rides, AND how long were you unconscious. not to mention in the big thing I wrote for the plot holes, which I'll justa ssume you haven't read yet, the hallway is an approximation, much like noveria, unless people WANTED to walk liek that for longer. I certainly didn't. On top of ALL that, you get a war asset called Alliance Cruiser Shanghai. It says that it made 41 shuttle runs in a single hour to evacuate a colony. Your crew only needed half of one, ebcause one shuttle was, again, being repaired. not hard to think it might have been fixed. Took less time to fix the tank thing in Gears Of War when youf all down that pit into that darkness for that dramaic fight against the crawling spider things with only your floodlight and machinegun.

''If such a thing was possilble why not fly into the beam so as to actually accomplish something? '' I dunno. Drama? Developers didn;t think of that? This was Shepard's end. Where's the hopeful future if they all die, and you're sure of it? Why didn't you call on the Normandy to make a strafing run on Saren when you fought him on Noveria? or send it's shuttle for you and send it to go help your other team so they don't die? Same difference. A full retreat WAS sounded, so maybe they went back tot he ship ebcause of that. Ground assault done. Missions critical falure.

Many of these "solutions" to these "plot holes" require HUGE amounts of resources. Wait, you eman all that stuff for after the game ends? THOSE are not plot holes. plot is done at that point, now it's all up to you to imagine it. But no matter. yes, it would. I ahve said several times, voer and over, that it WOULD be difficult. Can you guys remember that please, so I can stop repeating it? I ahve enver once alluded to it otherwise. if it ever sounds liek I am, pretend i meant to add "but it would be hard".

With a good portion of the galaxy decimated, Any attack by the reapers would do this. Were you all doom and gloom from the get go? Nothing you do in the ending would have chnaged this, at all. Were people expecting... what? A storehouse of resources to magically appear, or another wave to eb sent out to magically fix all the buldings and damage? Of course the galaxy is decimated.

there is absolutely no chance for the galaxy to even build a mass relay. You dont need the galaxy. only one group. Maybe a colony near a large resource filled planet in their system. How can you say NO chance? Do you know what the state of every colony in every system is?

''Let's not forget that they would have to start from scratch when building a mass relay (the information on how to create the makeshift one-way one by the Protheans was lost when Vigil shutdown due to damage/power loss and there are NO mass relays left to reverse engineer one). '' Not WORKING ones, no. But it's not like said relays were vapourised.