User talk:Commdor

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Well, We Need to Get moving
Since it seems that the Chat proposal has passed, we need to get ideas for moderators because I don't think turning it on without them is a good idea.

I was thinking that I could open a forum in the Projects forum about the project I've been working on and get interest in it. Opinions on both? Lancer1289 (talk) 00:17, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd email senior editors and ask if they would like the additional responsibility first, then over the next few weeks nominate additional chat mods from the regular editor pool as the need arises. I don't think we should go out of our way to promote a large number of mods until we're sure the Chat feature is going to be used on a consistent basis and warrants the attention. And I agree with your second suggestion. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:33, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you wouldn't mind sending the emails please because I'm literally about to pass out. I'm tired as can be right now. I'll post the forum with some basic information, with more to come. Lancer1289 (talk) 03:05, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have posted the page, Forum:Operation Concentrated Effort. Lancer1289 (talk) 03:18, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Emails sent. I pinged the senior editors who have been active within the past few weeks. If Bronzey and Dammej make an appearance, I'll contact them as well. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:20, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Mod Nominations
I'd like to nominate myself for a chat mod position. What channels do I need to go through to make this happen? --Mr. Mittens (talk) 03:54, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * You've come to the right place. I'll bring your request up with the other admins tomorrow. What'll happen is we examine and discuss your qualifications (based on quality and number of contributions, cooperation with other users, etc.), then vote on whether or not to grant you chat mod rights. This process may take a few days, I'll let you know the results via email. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:20, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good. I recognize that some of the admins are worried that my proposal of Live Chat will cause problems, so figure I have some kind of responsibility to make sure their fears don't come true. --Mr. Mittens (talk) 04:23, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

I would also like to throw my hat into the ring for a position as a chat moderator.--Legionwrex (talk) 17:39, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll include your request in the discussion. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:49, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you.--Legionwrex (talk) 17:54, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

personal image limit?
what do we do with the uploads of this guy. it's clear he more than exceeded the 10 image limit for personal use and so far all his uploads just links to his sandbox pages. i found it rather pointless to stick AfD tags on each and everyone on those since even if they are of crap quality they arguably can serve the purpose of showing the search and rescue locations for each ME3 system (pre-leviathan). T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 09:43, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * ...aaand i'd also like to point out the uploads of the vault's founder here. another case of useful images that may need to go because of policy. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 11:15, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * The first user's images are permissible because they were intended for a project he was working on and the images he uploaded for it would technically be considered usable in regular articles (point 3 of the user image policy), even though the user's inactivity means his project will likely never reach fruition. Ausir's uploads happened before the policy was in place, and although he's five images over the limit, I'm willing to overlook it. There was never any clear caveat that the user image policy was retroactive. -- Commdor (Talk) 11:34, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * good. i hate seeing informative images go because of policy. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 11:38, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sigh
Re:. I see you didn't even bother to start a talk page discussion. Thanks for reminding me why I don't bother with Wikia. I tried to help you guys, but if you want to play the "I own the article I don't want to see it changed", fine. I am mostly done with the game; I tried to share my experience - but if you don't want it, fine. --Piotrus (talk) 16:31, September 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * The onus is on you as the person wanting to add this information to start the discussion. If two other users can verify your information, then it can be added to the article. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:37, September 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Very well, I will start it, provided that you, the editor who requested the verification, will take the few minutes worth of effort, follow the links I added, and be the first of the two other editors to verify that. Deal? --Piotrus (talk) 19:04, September 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the verification process is an official site policy. All bugs/errors, solutions to said bugs/errors, and rare or disputed gameplay instances must be verified by two additional users. There's nothing to make a deal about, this is a required process. Additionally, I do not own the PC version of Mass Effect, so I cannot test your info myself. I'm afraid you will have to wait for other users to respond to the discussion. I did, however, re-add a portion of your info that did not need the actual game to verify. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:42, September 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification, perhaps I overreacted. However, why can't we accept the forum discussions linked as verifications? --Piotrus (talk) 00:29, September 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Another policy here prohibits the use of outside fan-generated information as a source, because it's usually unreliable (it could be outdated, incomprehensibly vague, or even deliberately false). Requiring independent verification from multiple ME Wiki users ensures that the information is current and more reliable. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:50, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Creatures Article
Hey, nice job so far on the sandbox version. I would also add the space hamster and the various fish species (or at least a link to that article). Also, please see my comment on the Aite Flyer talk page regarding some suggestions for the miscellaneous species portions. Thanks! TheUnknown285 (talk) 21:03, September 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added those creatures to the page, but I disagree with your formatting ideas. The Background Races article is formatted the way it is because none of those listed races have available images to use or have enough info to warrant separate articles, while the majority of creatures have images and separate articles with more in-depth info. Essentially, the BR page is designed to be a comprehensive article on its subject matter, whereas a Creatures page can be a portal page in the manner of Races, Characters, Soundtracks, etc. Think of the Creatures page as a menu of various different entrees, versus the BR page as a single, specific entree. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:44, September 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I'm not explaining my point clearly enough. When I refer to a "Miscellaneous Creatures" article, I mean an article, separate from the main creatures article, that holds the information for those species where we don't have enough information to warrant a separate article, not an article.  In other words Miscellaneous Creatures:Creatures::Background Races:Races


 * Does that clarify? Thanks.  TheUnknown285 (talk) 22:45, September 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean, but I don't think that's a practical approach right now. If we use identified miscellaneous creatures that don't have articles, I only count four (manal, deinorostrum, kakliosaur, Sifurman creature). Back when I proposed the Background Races page, we had 14 different examples of races to use. At the very least I'd want half that many creatures before a separate "Miscellaneous Creatures" page is considered, to make it closer in content size to similar compilation pages like Drugs, Diseases, Entertainment, or Awards. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:22, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible to delete blogs?
Because if so, I have a couple to delete. Also, thanks for helping me with the Raider's page! TW6464 (talk) 16:47, October 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, admins can delete blogs like any other page. Which of your blogs do you want deleted? -- Commdor (Talk) 16:52, October 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow, didnt expect that fast of a response. Anyway, I would like these blogs deleted, please

Thank you, Commdor! TW6464 (talk) 16:58, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/Does_everyone_hate_me%3F
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/Does_anyone_else_think_that_Tali_and_Cortez_would_be_good_friends
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/I_HATE_TALIBRATIONS!!!!!!!_(my_complaints_with_Tali_and_Garrus_romance)
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/Karmatic_Retribution!
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/New_Squadmates_ideas
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/How_do_commendation_packs_work
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/Where_are_pictures_for_the_Adas_Anti_Synthetic_Rifle_and_Blood_Pack_Punisher
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/Extended_cut:_not_as_good_I_thought
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TW6464/Online_pass_glitch


 * Done. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:10, October 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! TW6464 (talk) 17:20, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Operation Concentrated Effort
Operation Concentrated Effort is now on, and you have been chosen for the lead of Projects Councilor and Logos, focusing on the Race Articles, and Real World articles respectively. The basic control page for the project can be found here and here. You can update the project goals as necessary. Please remember that communication and cooperation is vital to the project. I signed up to assist you on Logos because that is something that I have found myself focusing on from time to time.

Good luck. Lancer1289 (talk) 20:30, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Just on a side note, well read the last message on my talk page, from me, and that shows you that I'm on autopilot and need a nap. My keyboard right now is looking like a nice pillow. I'll be back on later. Lancer1289 (talk) 21:13, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Character Template Troubles.
I am project lead of Project Chronicle, as such, I, and the rest of the team, have been tasked with creating a Character Template to work on all character articles. I am not exactly an expert with templates, so I decided the best thing to do would be to modify the current template. I basically added three new sections under the "class" section of the original template, those new sections are as follows; race, gender, and location.

The problem I'm having is that the three new sections won't show up when the edit is complete, all that shows up is the name and class sections. You can find the template here under the "Project Chronicle" section. You can only see the three new sections if you are editing the page. Please help.--Legionwrex (talk) 16:53, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * You're only editing the basic transcluded version of the template used in articles. The actual nuts and bolts you have to edit are in Template:Character. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:58, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * So I have to edit the actual Character Template's page itself? If that is the case, which one do I edit, the first one or the blank values one?--Legionwrex (talk) 17:01, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * You would copy the script and edit it within your sandbox first. Everything within the tags on Template:Character is the actual template script. The rest of the page is documentation, which you would need to update to reflect your changes to the template's functions, but it has no effect on the template itself. If you're having trouble, I could try my hand at it. -- Commdor  (Talk) 17:12, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. For now I want to try and do it myself, as it could be helpful to know how to do it in the future, thank you for the offer though.--Legionwrex (talk) 17:16, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I have completed it. Thank you for the help.--Legionwrex (talk) 17:34, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Priority: Rannoch
I noticed that the wiki still has only a draft of the requirements for making peace between the geth and quarians. I checked the point system mentioned on its talk page and left there a link to what seems the original BSN post, which, however, states the source of the information as leaks - which, if I understand correctly, means that it cannot be included in the article.

However, I do believe that we can at least use the information to compare our playthroughs and check if it's valid, and edit the article in terms of missions/requirements without actually referring to the points. I've made a charter with the possible alternatives of the decision branching and I would like to get as many people cooperate on this as possible, but I don't know where to put it - the project forums? And would it be OK to work with the point system there?

Thanks for any input. --Ygrain (talk) 15:43, October 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the "point" system is outlined prominently on pg. 263 of the official ME3 guidebook by Prima Games (I have the hardcover Collector's Edition version). That should be a sufficient source to add it to the article. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:59, October 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh? How come no-one has supplied the info in the meantime? Do so few people possess the guidebook? - I don't, so could you possibly do the editing yourself? --Ygrain (talk) 17:19, October 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:12, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Voting.
Would it be okay if I opened voting on the Project Forum, or is there still some concerns that you would like to be addressed.--Legionwrex (talk) 19:05, October 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have no other concerns at this time, but usually we give the discussion period a few days to make sure as many users as possible have voiced their opinions. I don't think there's any defined rule preventing you from starting the vote now if you feel there isn't anything more to discuss, but I recommend waiting another day or two. Ultimately, it's up to you. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:20, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll take your advice and wait a day or two.--Legionwrex (talk) 19:24, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I would also suggest that you take some of the suggestions and try and act on them. If you can't, then find someone who can.
 * Commdor, would you also mind checking your email? Lancer1289 (talk) 19:30, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * What suggestions are you talking about? I already did all of the suggestions, except for Temporaryeditor78's, mainly because I don't see the need for all of that extra stuff he suggested. It is unneeded and unnecessary.--Legionwrex (talk) 19:36, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Closure
I'm back Commdor! But I'm not here to stay. Just needed some closure since you blocked me for no reason. First off I'm past the whole "swearing on this wiki" issue. Everyone supports me as indicated by the fact that I received more votes than you on the policy reform. It's like arguing with the wall since some are so easily offended. Next, you wrongly accused me of "harassment" when you blocked me. This was simply an excuse to block me, I never harassed you or any other Admin PERIOD. Sure we disagreed on that language issue but I still HAD respect for you and never once harassed you. I was always polite when I questioned and asked your opinion on certain issues. In addition, you said that I was wrongly soliciting for votes for the reform buy using my VOTE blog series to promote it. That is a TON of bull, you knew I would win so you just shut me down to keep that from happening. On a final note, I'm done with this wiki. Much like the Mass Effect trilogy is over, My use of this wiki is over. Feel free to leave a reply, I'm sure you will. I'm off to go make one final blog post. I used to have respect for you and once thought you were the man for this wiki. I was wrong.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 04:38, October 9, 2012 (UTC).
 * You where blocked because of the fact you created an entire blog blasting this wikis admins and insinuating a conspiracy, need I remind you of the now deleted "Vote 13: Conspiracy Edition". You also made a rather over dramatic speech about how this wiki is like the Reapers cycle, and how you where leaving and not coming back. The fact you have returned just to argue tells me that you are just hungry for attention.--Legionwrex (talk) 04:51, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

You would know a thing or two about being hungry for attention Legion! You act like you're some big authority on this wiki but you are NOT! Maybe my vision is a bit foggy but I don't see ADMIN written over your name. Also I did say I was leaving and I AM but not before addressing a few final problems. Such as the fact that not everyone saw the original VOTE 13. Want to know why? Because I was falsely censored and suppressed due to my knowledge of the situation. And never once did I compare this wiki to a Reaper cycle I compared the way this wiki's users are censored to a Reaper cycle.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 23:35, October 9, 2012 (UTC).
 * Right, I enforce site policy and act like how a good editor should, which apparently means I'm hungry for attention. The very fact you returned here just to answer me proves my point. Additionally, the reason your blog was deleted was because it was insulting the admins of this wiki, accusing them of some conspiracy against you. This is my last post here, I don't want to start a flamewar on Commdor's talk page, if you wish to continue you may do so on my talk page. One last thing, people will generally listen and respect your arguments better if you don't use ad hominem attacks, keep that in mind.--Legionwrex (talk) 23:50, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

does anyone have pics if Retaliation content?
What the title says.TW6464 (talk) 19:48, October 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't know. I assume the users who usually supply our images will upload some soon enough. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:53, October 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * the weapons and some character pics are up, just need some enemies, and a couple more characters. and we'll be good.--TW6464 (talk) 00:00, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

NEED HELP!
Commdr, Look, If there's any way for you to calm Lancer1289, PLEASE DO! He's.... beyond p****d off that i said, "i dont have time to help with Project: Concetrated Effort" but i did have time... anyway, now Mr. Mittens has gotten him mad, and i think it's gonna spiral out of control. So, please HELP CALM LANCER DOWN! I know this is kind of a big request but please... I dont want to get Mittens in trouble with Lancer.--TW6464 (talk) 21:03, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dude, really? When he sees this he'll probably be even angrier. and frankly I wouldn't blame him. You lied straight to his face and then you go around upset about why he is mad at you.--Legionwrex (talk) 21:11, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh S***, your right...... And by the way I'm not upset, Im just trying to get someone to stop this before it gets worse.... And you know what? Lancer if you're reading this, the reason I lied to your face is because I didn't know what to say, alright! I'm sorry for lying, but please, calm down.--TW6464 (talk) 21:22, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I think it's all good.... I hope.--TW6464 (talk) 15:11, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

DLC Page is gone
Wat the title says--TW6464 (talk) 15:10, October 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you're referring to. The Downloadable Content article has been accessible since I got online this morning. If you can't go to the page, I can only guess that the issue stems from your browser or internet connection. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:51, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that my Internet connection may have been the problem. It's all good now.--TW6464 (talk) 16:57, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

How to classify powers based on descriptions?
Lancer and I disagreed on the classification of certain powers. I'll defer to his judgement and go with descriptions rather than game data. Do you know of any precedents that exist that would make this clearer for me?

Still, some of them really confuse me. Ballistic Blades doesn't seem very tech-like except for the fact that an omni-tool is used. Lksdjf (talk) 04:23, October 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Anything at all? Lksdjf (talk) 03:59, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay, I forgot to respond. I can't name specific precedents, but I do know that we usually rely on in-game descriptions rather than raw data. It's a habit that I think stems from when ME was originally an Xbox 360 exclusive, there was no PC version for the first editors to mine for info. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:13, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, that seems fair. However, what I'm not really getting is that some of this data is not really information that needs to be mined for, but is fairly readily available in terms of things like match medals.  Powers like Ballistic Blades are classified as tech, and to me, everything about it screams combat, based on things like description, the class that it belongs to, and the in-game performance.  If the only thing that keeps Ballistic Blades tech is the omni-tool, then it further confuses me because we are relying on the game and not the description for that particular incident.


 * I'm just wondering if perhaps there could be a criterion or a review period for classification of certain powers, because in-game performance and descriptions are sometimes at odds with each other. Lksdjf (talk) 05:15, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Edits not appearing on Recent Activity?
Most of the time, I use the Recent Activity page to keep track of what's happening on the wiki, but sometimes I've noticed that edits don't show up in it. The specific thing that made me post this was the recent edits to Storyline III about the Leviathans - I spotted them from Recent Activity and was going to revert them, but noticed that they had already been removed without the edit showing up on Recent Activity. This kind of thing has happened a few other times in the past months as well. Do you have any idea why this happens?--Zxjkl (talk) 03:00, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure, I don't use Wiki Activity, so I haven't noticed. It could be the usual glitches, lag, unforeseen consequences of Wikia code updates, and other assorted quirks that crop up from time to time. One I'm frustrated with at the moment is that the search bar has been missing from the Recent Changes page for a week or two now, but it could be back tomorrow or in three months. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:19, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * For the record, the edit in question still hasn't shown up.


 * Incidentally, on the subject of the Leviathan thing, why is it that Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival are mentioned on the Storyline pages?--Zxjkl (talk) 03:56, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think at some point we must have decided they were worth noting; they occurred after ME2's main story and had plots that bridged the gap between ME2 and ME3. Other DLCs occur during the events of the games, so they're treated like side missions and ignored since they aren't integral to the main plot. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:06, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * If I can stay coherent enough, since I'm literally nodding off right now, I can explain. The Wiki activity page is a really stripped down version of the RC. Uploads, Template, and other edits like that don't appear. What also doesn't appear are rollbacks. If an edit is rolled back, it disappears from the Wiki activity page. Using the RC is easier and tells more than the WA page. Lancer1289 (talk) 04:58, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Authentic Renders by Troodon80 on dA
Hey administrator Commdor, you said if there was anything I needed help with, I was to contact you on your talk page. Well, here I am, and I have a bit of a problem. There's this guy on DeviantART called Troodon80 who creates authentic Mass Effect reference models that are straight from the game files. Here's the link for his page. I have his official statement saved on file in my computer, and I believe it is also on his webpage on dA. I asked him if it was okay if I submitted these to the Mass Effect wiki, and he said sure, go ahead. Then he told me how other users tried to the same thing before, but they (the images I mean) got deleted because they were presumed to be "fan art", which is incorrect. They are excellent renders straight from the game files. I would like to submit them to the wiki, but I fear that they (the other administrators, yourself included) might delete them under the same mistaken presumption. I gave the link and the verification of authenticity of these renders, and so now I was hoping you might try to convince the others that these renders are completely authentic and official. It is the plain and simple truth. You can ask BioWare if you want in regards to Troodon80. You know where to contact me, so what say you? --Xamikaze330 (talk/contribs)


 * I appreciate your offer and I'll take your word for it that the images are genuine, but I'm afraid we simply have no use for renders. We only accept screenshots, in-game icons, and occasionally concept art in our articles, not renders. Also, some of these renders (such as those of EDI) appear to have slightly different colorations than seen in the games, which reduces their usability. You're welcome to upload some for display on your personal user page or user blogs (note that users are allowed to have up to 10 personal images), but if they were added to regular articles, they would likely be removed. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:43, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh. I see. As much as I hate to admit it, you do have a point. But not all of them are as bad you might think they are. It's just that I think the wiki is missing out on a chance, an opportunity, to become more than it is now. Oh well. Thank you for answering my query. --Xamikaze330 (talk/contribs) 21:54, October 14, 2012 (UTC)Xamikaze330

how to make sandboxes
How do you make sandbox pages?--TW6464 (talk) 23:35, October 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Create a page with the exact title "User:TW6464/Sandbox". -- Commdor (Talk) 23:43, October 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you.--TW6464 (talk) 23:47, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

how to delete photos
How do I do this?--TW6464 (talk) 12:47, October 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Only admins can delete pages and files. Tell me which images you want deleted and I'll take care of the rest. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:47, October 15, 2012 (UTC)