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The Prothean
Apologies about the Prothean. I was adding the quote while you changed the name back. Didn't mean to step on your toes. Hope the pic is to your liking! Cheers! Der Schreiber 02:32, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's alright. And the image is fine. Just so you're aware, until the official launch in about two and a half hours, your info still constitutes leaked material. I'm not sure where you're getting your info (perhaps you already have the game), but you'll have to wait for that before you can re-add it. I do have a question: how do you know the Prothean's name is Javik? I've seen that a lot, but I never found it in any of the leaked files. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:39, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

From Ashes
Commdor, I did as you asked and I couldn't see any new clusters or new anything really. It appears that you could visit the Exodus Cluster right off the back, and get to Eden Prime. I doubt I'll see anything new once the DLC is downloaded. Also Exodus is under Reaper control so that will make it difficult. Now I'm off to get a little sleep. Lancer1289 09:05, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

OK I downloaded the DLC and the only thing it adds is "Recover Prothean Artifact" when you hover of the Exodus Cluster, and then Eden Prime. As for the Journal, Priority: Eden Prime. I know it's a red link now, but I'll fix that in a sec. Lancer1289 16:10, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. Thanks for checking, and double thanks for sticking around and helping out. And is it just me, or have assignments been merged with missions in ME3? I didn't notice an Assignments section under the Journal tab. -- Commdor (Talk) 16:17, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't see any either. I also believe they have been merged with missions, given the set up of the Journal. Lancer1289 16:21, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * That simplifies things for us, I guess. All quests in ME3 are missions. Anyway, I'm going to add one or two Codex entries and then I'll have to study for an exam I have in 90 minutes. I should be back and working around here as usual by 3pm CST at the latest. I can post the rest of the missions in the game from the guidebook (soooo many on the Citadel). -- Commdor (Talk) 16:30, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Commdor. I hope your exam went well, and if you don't mind me asking, which subject? Just curious. Anyway, I have found that activity as well as spoilers isn't near what I expected. I fully expect this to change in the coming days, but if this is the pace that we have to deal with, even if it escalated slightly, then I think we planned for a hurricane, and we only got a thunderstorm.

As to the walkthroughs. My current plan is to work on them after I complete ME3 once. That way, I can enjoy the game without having to spend five hours typing per mission. While the Galaxy At War missions will take much less time, the main missions are quite long. I mean the one on Mars was quite long. I still haven't got to Palaven yet, and I plan to do that after some lunch. Me need food. And I have to work on a few things as well. Lancer1289 19:06, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe I fared decently on the exam, but I could definitely have done better. If I hadn't missed class due to illness two weeks ago, I could have skipped this exam (we're allowed to drop one of the five), but no such luck. The subject was criminal justice by the way. And yes, the activity on the wiki is still manageable right now. Incorporating the stuff I want to add will be slow, though; it took me half an hour just to transcribe two secondary Codex entries. Just have to keep hacking at it, we'll get it done eventually. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:12, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes those Codex entries are annoying. Especially when we have to deal with similar entries. I still remember when we discovered discrepancies between ME and ME2 Codex entries. Lancer1289 20:16, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Fix-up from ME3 Launch
Hey, for those of us who are either a) new to editing; or b) just haven't received ME3 yet, is it a good idea to clean-up articles and information left by those to busy with the game to pay attention to spelling, grammar, format, and spoiler tags? I mean, Mass Effect 3 may be out, but we have to keep up the image of being (somewhat) well organized. Also, good practice for people who are new to editing. --AnAutisticTeen 18:49, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Short answer, yes. Lancer1289 18:51, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

John Shepard
Greetings, Commdor! Um, just to let you know: I re-created that John Shepard page that was deleted. However, I put it as a redirect to the proper article. I figure there is probably enough people out there that will search the "wrong" name for him :) If you think this is silly - just delete it again. :) Timeoin•Say G'Day•View my work 23:17, March 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the reason it was deleted before (today and a few years ago) was because it was a redirect. We don't want to create redirects with Shepard's first name, even if they are default, because they invite users to create more redirects with custom names. Since Shepard is only ever referred to as "Shepard" or "Commander Shepard" in the games anyway, there won't be any confusion. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:30, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Spellings
Why did you undo the edit? 'Civilisation' shows up as misspelled, and 'civilization' is shown as correct. I realize the UK might spell things differently, but isn't this US hosted?


 * I believe Wikia is US hosted, but the ME franchise originates from Canada and we have a substantial amount of users who use UK spellings. A site policy was created several years ago that allows UK spellings to stand in articles and prohibits changing them; conversely, US spellings can't be changed to UK ones. This policy was enacted to prevent edit warring over the different spellings. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:22, March 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Makes sense, if not mildly confusing. Still, now I won't stubbornly continue to re-edit and end up irritating people. Thanks!--Ocean Soul 06:58, March 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but either fix the spelling, or ignore it. Undoing the edit, possible additions, just because of some spelling errors are just stupid. 195.174.205.216 02:44, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * To the contrary. If you're unwilling make sure your edits are up to standard, you have no expectation whatsoever that those edits will be allowed to stand. The burden is on the person adding information to ensure that their edits are suitable. Those of us who maintain the wiki aren't around just to clean up your mistakes. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:21, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * You can fix the errors yourself as long as it is not in conflict with the wiki's policy of UK/US spellings. — Teugene (Talk) 02:56, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Possible Vandal
This user keeps switching the Ashley picture on the Ashley page, to Garrus Vakarian's picture: 72.179.38.90

I'll keep you posted :) JouninOfDespair 13:59, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Page is getting hit pretty hard at the moment, I'd keep it under surveillance. Undid two people, somebody else is also helping, but a lot of people are messing with the picture. JouninOfDespair 14:17, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I already posted the name of the person on Lancer1289 talk page under the section Vandalism --Icemoomoo 14:19, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ok then JouninOfDespair 15:10, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Taken care of. All of them. Lancer1289 15:47, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon Mod Tables
Told Lancer about this, but I'll tell you as well, just completed all the tables and info for every weapon mod in Mass Effect 3. The only one I couldnt do was the Single Player mod "Concentration Mod" for the Sniper Rifles, but I'm sure it'll happen in due time. Took a while to get this information, but its done now and it feels good :). JouninOfDespair 15:12, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Organizing
I may be jumping the gun here, and if I am I apologize for it. I've noticed recently that the ME3 articles under all the character pages are starting to get cluttered. I know most of this is from so many users editing at once, and I've tried to clean it up a little. Should subsections such as Dossiers and Romance be started, or wait until theres more info? Unsure what to do here, with being a new member and all--Insanityhelper 01:38, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd leave the sections as they are for now until we get more info, it shouldn't take too long. It's only the day after the game was released, so we're getting flooded with information by users who are unfamiliar with editing wikis. Once things calm down and more of our regular users complete the game, we'll be able to take stock and clean everything up. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:43, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say give it about two or three weeks for things to settle down, then the process will really begin. Lancer1289 01:47, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. If its alright with you, I'll continue cleaning the small amount of info we have a little better, fixing grammar/spelling mistakes, etc.--Insanityhelper 01:51, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

RC Clogging
Ok, this guy from wiki is really starting to get on my nerves. In my opinion, he could have chosen a much better time to do whatever he's doing. I mean, it's the day after a major release, haven't we got enough things to worry about without having to worry about someone clogging up the RC with things that could be done at another time? I'm honestly thinking of asking him to stop and come back in a week or so once things settle down here. What do you think? Lancer1289 02:27, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is somewhat annoying, but I don't think it'll be any less so if he comes back to do it next week. We might as well let him get it over with now. But if he continues to do this into the night, when neither of us will be around to monitor RC, we should probably ask him to stop and start again in the morning (or noon EST). Regular edits and vandalism will get lost otherwise. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:34, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea. However, if this is going to be every article, then why not do it in chunks instead of the entire thing at one time? It will make it much easier on everyone. Lancer1289 02:37, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Huh. Looks like he stopped. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:56, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I take it its me your talking about... :/ JouninOfDespair 12:27, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * No. Lancer1289 13:43, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, well I dont blame you for being annoyed with me for the amount I've pestered you, thats why I assumed. Mind, I dont know what RC really means? Is it Recent Contributions? JouninOfDespair 13:47, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Achievement Images
Commdor, someone recently uploaded a ton of super low quality images for the Achievements. Now, unfortunately when he was asked to stop four times and didn't, I was forced to take action. Not what I wanted to do, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Anyway, I don't think we need to wait the two days on them as they don't even come close to meeting any standards for images. What do you think?

Also, it just doesn’t seem to stop today doesn't it? I should have been home almost an hour ago, but I stayed at school to try and keep up. I’ll probably be leaving shortly and going home because I need to get out of here. And it's a half hour drive home. Lancer1289 19:24, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was about to post a message on your talk about the same thing. I agree, tagging the images would be a waste of time, they should be deleted now. Since it's a lot of images to handle, would you mind helping me out? I'll start with the earliest images and work my way forward, if you could go from the most recent ones we can get this out of the way in half the time. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:30, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can do. I'll get started now. Lancer1289 19:31, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well looks like you got the rest. My computer decided to go all crazy on me for a minute. Anyway, I plan to leave school around 2:00 CST and drive home. Just a heads up. Lancer1289 19:44, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. I'm going to run and get some lunch, should be back in ten minutes. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:45, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm back, went to Subway. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:59, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm going to head home then. I am currently working on the Search and Rescue page and have it open in my browser. I'm putting all of that information into a table, so just a heads up on that. Try to avoid editing it. Thanks. See you in a half hour.
 * I also took care of all of the overnight edits, so no need to worry about them. Lancer1289 20:01, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok. I'll try to make sure the wiki doesn't burn down while you're in transit. :P -- Commdor (Talk) 20:07, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I finally finished that annoying Search and Rescue article. Man that took a long time. I also put it into a Javatable as I thought that would be about 600 times more useful if it was sortable. At least it's done. Lancer1289 22:58, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good work. I got the Annos Basin cluster knocked out. I want to try and do Kite's Nest, the Petra Cluster (home to Elysium), and maybe the Exodus Cluster later (Exodus is already up from ME, but it seems that several planets have slightly different descriptions, like Eden Prime). -- Commdor (Talk) 23:09, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for all your doing and hope everything goes well in the future.


 * You're certainly welcome. I hope the wiki has been of help to you. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:59, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Aethon Cluster
Commdor, you probably missed this and since I fixed something earlier about it, I remembered it. The Aethon Cluster is actually in the game and is home to the volus homeworld of Irune. Right now, it is also in the Guide Book, I have the CE edition, but at the top of the first column on page 363 for the mission Irune: Book of Plenix. Lancer1289 21:08, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I surmised it might have been an actual cluster in game, but I didn't want the article to exist because some spammer wanted to use it post a joke. I plan to recreate it later. Right now I'm in the middle of transcribing some Codex entries, then I plan to make some more cluster and system articles and some stub planet articles. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:13, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, well that makes sense. I didn't see it before it was deleted, so I just felt I should pass it along. Lancer1289 21:18, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Couple quick points
Hi Commdor,

Have you had time to consider the split of the Normandy SR-2's ME2 and ME3 iterations into two different articles, as the ship (In my view) is distinct enough between the two different games to warrant two articles. Also, you recently deleted the page Aethon Cluster with the reason "Spam" -- my question: why? It exists. (For instance, the Volus homeworld, Irune, is located there as per Irune.)

Thanks,

--Go Bruins! 21:12, March 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * See the topic above for why I deleted the Aethon Cluster article. As for the Normandy SR-2 split, that will require community discussion and approval. I plan to propose the split after I confirm a certain detail about the Normandy in the game; I saw a screenshot months ago of a stat screen for the ship that showed how it could be upgraded, and that screen called the Normandy the "SSV Normandy SR-2". Once I can confirm that was real, then we'll have an even stronger reason to push for a split. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:16, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Priority: The Citadel
Ok, well BioWare has decided to make our lives a bit harder. As I have just finished Tuchanka, I can confirm what was left on my talk page some time ago. There are actually two missions titled "Priority: The Citadel". One that takes place during the Prologue, and the second at the beginning of Act 2. Now I intend to call them "Priority: The Citadel (Prologue)" and "Priority: The Citadel (Act 2)" to align with the Guidebook unless you have another suggestion. I also plan to turn the Priority: The Citadel page into a full Disambiguation page with links to both articles. Again, I really don't see another option here, but I will listen to advice. Lancer1289 02:36, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

There's also something else, a recent edit to the asari page has me worried. I don't know how to integrate that into the article, and since your the one who's good with those articles, I figure you can take a crack at it. Lancer1289 02:57, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Before I can provide any suggestions for the Citadel missions, a question: does the game itself divide missions up into acts like the guidebook? As for the asari info, I was expecting that, but not this soon. I'll end up having to do a partial revamp of the page as I did with the Prothean article. If we can keep the Asari article clear of this info until tomorrow (or at least sweep it into a temporary "Mass Effect 3" subsection under "History" there), I can get it taken care of. Right now, I'm afraid I don't have the energy to complete that; the Prothean revamp took me four hours, and I think the Asari revamp may be the same. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:10, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * No the game doesn't as far as I can tell. The Journal just lists them in mission order. The problem is that there are are two in there. Again advice welcome. Lancer1289 03:12, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ugh, I was afraid of that. I don't want to use "act" in there then. So, I agree that "Priority: The Citadel" should become a disambiguation page for the two missions. I have a series of title pairs for the missions themselves: 1. "Priority: The Citadel I", "Priority: The Citadel II" (numbers can be used in place of Roman numerals if desired) 2. "Priority: The Citadel/I" (or /Prologue), "Priority: The Citadel/II" 3. "Priority: The Citadel (Prologue)", "Priority: The Citadel" (in this case, we don't make the disambiguation page, and only have disambig tags on both articles that link to each other) That's all I've got right now. When were you planning on doing the split? -- Commdor (Talk) 03:25, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well now actually. I'll probably go with the first option as it is the most logical. Using "/" is for things like the Codex. However, I'll stick with the Numerals as they look better than numbers. Lancer1289 03:32, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Apologies for edit conflicts, but is that ok or would you have me hold off for a moment? Lancer1289 03:40, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * No conflict, I hadn't started a reply yet. But yes, that option is what I'd do. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:42, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok three pages coming up. Lancer1289 03:49, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I was just looking through the Guidebook and there may be a third Priority: The Citadel mission where all you do is go the asari Councilor to talk about going to Thessia. I won't be able to confirm this until later, but if true, then...well...great. Just great... Lancer1289 00:53, March 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * It could be worse. There could be doubles of all of the missions. :P -- Commdor (Talk) 01:02, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Please don't give the mercs ideas". :P Lancer1289 01:04, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well it appears I was correct. I've just finished dealing with the quarians and the geth, and got what I wanted in the process. Anyway, after completion of the mission, guess who calls up Shepard? The asari councilor. Apparently this is just another meet and greet let's talk about our feelings sort of mission, but again it is called "Priority: The Citadel". So it looks like we have three articles now. Off to the article creation page.

Who's bright idea was this anyway?


 * Someone who doesn't realize how they're complicating our work. Tsk, tsk. And they didn't even give the prologue mission on Earth a journal entry or name. Jake's made a move proposal for "Prologue: Earth" which you should take a look at. It boils down to do we keep the guidebook's name for the mission, or move it to the name of the mission's location (when you bring up the save menu during a mission, it states the location of that mission, but not the journal name; the prologue mission has a location, but no journal name). -- Commdor (Talk) 06:01, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I saw that, but didn't make much of it at the time. I'll take a close look now. I was a little busy trying to...oh wait, no spoilers. Lancer1289 06:03, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Never mind, Jake's fine with the current title. And I envy you, getting to actually play ME3. I suppose I could stop editing until I beat the game, but I have responsibilities as an admin and I don't want to leave you or anyone else in the lurch. But it is frustrating . Is a wiki lockdown (only for unregistered contributors, and only for a few weeks) truly out of the question? -- Commdor (Talk) 06:13, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, if you want to propose it or email Spart, I will find myself in a position where I can't really argue. I know some wikis do that. Lancer1289 06:16, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll sleep on it then, but my doubts about taking this step are evaporating. It's getting to where I don't even have the opportunity to make my own edits because I'm too busy checking and fixing others' or blocking vandalism. If I can't play the game and I can't contribute to the wiki beyond mere patrolling, what's the point of it all? I can't fathom how we handled ME2. -- Commdor (Talk) 06:30, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * While you were here before that, I just joined at that point remember? From what I saw, there was a lot less going on as ME2 wasn't as big as ME3 is. ME2 didn't even have close to the amount of hype that ME3 did. They weren't even on the same planet. There weren't as many edits going on, nor as many vandals. Again, I would just email Spart anyway and see what he thinks and say what you just said. Lancer1289 06:40, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Overnight
Well to say a lot happened is an understatement. I had to enact at least 6 bans over James' article alone, so I've locked it for two weeks for that purpose. I came so close to locking to admins only, but leaving it as it is now, is probably better. Look at the history of it and if that doesn't make you shake your head, then I don't know what will. I've also protected Tali's page for the ongoing problems with the picture. Until we can get a decent shot, it's just going to keep happening. Lancer1289 16:47, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just got back on and I can't go back in the RC further than 5am EST, there have been too many changes. Also, it looks like the user who proposed replacing all of the achievement images has gone ahead and uploaded all of them for ME and ME3. Do we make him wait until the project has been approved before adding the images, delete the images in the meantime, or what? -- Commdor (Talk) 18:45, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably for the best as it hasn't been approved yet. Only a few examples are needed. Lancer1289 18:48, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've set up the project for voting. I don't know if we should delete the images yet, they'll probably end up in use and I don't want to delete over 100 images only for them to be re-uploaded in a week. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:03, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Progress in Game.
so, how are you doing in Mass Effect 3. I, myself beat it as well as all N7 missions last night. My ending was...not very good.--Legionwrex 19:01, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm still not very far into it. Between managing the wiki and classes, I have yet to start Priority: Sur'Kesh. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:04, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Removing for now, still in use.
No, they are not. The File:SpectreSymbol.png wasn't in use for two years now, that's why I tagged the file. What's wrong with that? --ShardofTruth 19:08, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * My mistake then. I'll delete them. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:11, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Jack Image
Someone apparently added it back after I pointed out why I removed the image from Jack's page.

It is no longer in use for purposes of deletion. (It's Shep's shoulder blocking a good part of her figure for crying out loud..)--Aryn2382 19:29, March 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Got it. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:32, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

When you get a chance...
Stop by my talk page for the Monastery thing. It just got interesting. Lancer1289 08:04, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Fuel in ME3
You don't have to buy fuel at a fuel depot, just dock at the Citadel and you will be at 1000/1000 again, consider adding it to an appropriate page.

Main Page changes
Hello Admin

I find the front page of this wiki to be unattractive, perhaps its time for a change. This dark blue color hanging in the background can become irritating after a while. Maybe the background color could have a slightly larger contrast to the text color and perhaps it could also become less visible to that the background picture could show. Unfortunately I can't edit it as a non admin user. Please take a look at the Dragon Age and Skyrim wiki they are slightly more attractive and modern on first sight.

Thanks for your time

Persason


 * We have no plans to change the main page at this time. Any changes require creating a proposal, allowing for community input, finalizing the proposal, putting the proposal to a vote, and then if the community votes to approve the proposal it can be implemented. Since we are currently busy incorporating Mass Effect 3 information, it could be weeks or months before such a project is possible, let alone if we decide we want to change the main page at all. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:45, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

The Art of Mass Effect
Commdor, I would just like to ask if you may be able to help me with a little project. I love this wiki, I have browsed it everyday at school for as long as I have had my laptop, and I would like to leave my mark. I have the Art of Mass Effect 2, and 3, and if you are willing to help me, I can scan each page of them, and make a page detailing them. I hope we can make this happen, and i'm hoping for a reply :) sincerely TheRealTerminal 10:50, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem with that is the massive copyright issue that comes along with that. We could get into a lot of trouble if we don't get permission to display those images. Therefore I'm going to say no. Lancer1289 16:50, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Cluster Code
I am trying to add another system in the Kite's Nest cluster, but I am unfamiliar with the code that is under location. Any suggestions? KcBrN 11:28, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * You would search for "Cluster:Kite's Nest", the underlying cluster template. When adding new systems into those templates, be sure to follow the format exactly. Use other cluster templates as examples. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:39, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. Everything looks good. KcBrN 20:27, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Cerberus Armor
I'm playing ME3 right now. Cerberus Armor is not the same as Cerberus Assault Armor.


 * Yes, I'm aware they have different stats. But because the name is not much different than Cerberus Assault Armor and the appearance is exactly the same, any info about Cerberus Armor is going into the CAA article. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:24, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the confusino then. I'll just try to help fill in the new specs.


 * It's no problem, thanks for your help. Without users like yourself, details like this might not be noticed for weeks. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:38, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I added the new ME3 stats to the Blood Dragon Armor and Inferno Armor yesterday. I want to know if there is a cleaner way of doing it differently than the way I did. KcBrN 20:31, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * See the Cerberus Assault Armor article for how I divided the page into ME2 and ME3 sections. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:32, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, will do thanks KcBrN 21:25, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see how you devided it. But this would make the previous stats in the armor code and possibly under the in-game description, although I can understand that staying because it's apart of the ME2 (not ME3) in-game description, irrelevant. Should we take the stats out of the armor code because this could possibly lead to misguided information for, lets say someone who hasn't played ME2 and is only playing ME3? KcBrN 22:20, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Disregard, I was looking at Terminus Assault Armor. Not Cerberus Assault Armor. My apolagies. KcBrN 22:23, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Cluster:Ninmah Cluster links not working
Strangest thing, i created Cluster:Ninmah Cluster but the link or search can't find it. However, the link on my following page works and hitting the back button on the browser will reload the page. So I know it's there I just can't seem to find what is wrong with the links. This also leads to the code on the Ninmah Cluster page not to work. It did work at first but now it's not updating the planets I am creating. It shows the planet link still red. Help Please??? KcBrN 21:30, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's wiki lag. Give a few hours and things should work like normal. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:35, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Art of Mass Effect 2/3 Page
Hey Commdor, I tried to leave a message but I don't think it got through, but I have an idea, and I need your help with it. I own the colectors edition of both ME2 and ME3, And with them the art books included, If your willing to help me out with the building of the pages, I be willing to scan each page individualy and add them to the wiki. I am still new to this, but I want to make my mark on the wiki, and frankly i'm shocked that no one has done this yet. Hoping for a reply TheRealTerminal 23:09, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * It looks Lancer gave you the wiki's official line on that in your earlier post. Scanning the books is a complicated copyright issue because we don't have legal permission to post such images. We or Wikia could be sued by BioWare if they decide we're in violation of their copyrights, so we can't post them. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:17, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thats dissapointing :( I want to make a decent contribution to this wiki, and this would have gotten me a bit of notice. Do you maybe have any suggestions for me? I have a lt of spare time at school, hell i'm on my laptop in art right now. TheRealTerminal 01:47, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sirta Foundation Redirect
Should the Sirta Supplies page be redirected to Sirta Foundation (shop) page and create a sirta supplies category for ME3? I feel like they should be on the same page since they are both shops of the Sirta Foundation, but in two different games. KcBrN 23:55, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd leave them alone. They're different shops with different items in different games. We may decide to do a merge later, but that's one of the million other things we'll have to consider after we're done incorporating all of ME3's info. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:57, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Asari folds.
I wrote it in the talk page before I realised I should just go here, so... yeah, go there. But this is about the Asari folds. Namely that it's quoted right from liara.NickTyrong 02:34, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Email
Commdor, would you mind checking your email at the earliest possibility please. Lancer1289 12:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lockdown
Well I heard back from Wikia and it is good news and bad news. The good news is that they can lock down the wiki. The bad news is that they would like to see some discussion on it, even if it is brief. So how do we proceed on that front? I was thinking just a brief Policy Forum Discussion lasting no more than three days. Lancer1289 22:20, March 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * If we must. Underline how much pressure this has put on administrators and how we're getting record numbers of viewers and edits that we just can't handle. I would also protect that policy page so that only registered contributors can weigh in, since unregistered users will likely oppose the measure and might swamp any vote. I hope it passes. If it doesn't I may give up, I can't keep up this pace much longer. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:27, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do that. Give me a few minutes. I should also let you know that I will be leaving for my evening class in 45 minutes tops and won't be back until 9:30 - 10:00 CST. Lancer1289 22:30, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

It is done, Forum:Wiki Lockdown. Now all we can do is hope and pray. I have left it open to voting until Wednesday night at 11:59 UTC, I got a little overhappy with the changes to the template for a minute. Please do take some time and add your comment as well to the top to share your opinion. Not in the Comments section at the top. While I'm sure that I've already stated some things, please just reiterate them. I set the end date as April 30th as I feel that anything less will just overwhelm us again. If you which to change that, then please do, but my personal vote here is no earlier than April 16th.

I will be leaving in 15 minutes to go to my evening class. Lancer1289 23:01, March 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll keep an eye on it and the wiki then. If I think of something to add, I will, but you set it all out. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:02, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Real Life Indoctrination :)
This has restored my faith in the series :) http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Damous/Why_Bioware_has_NOT_betrayed_us If this is indeed the truth, or if Bioware pretends it is ;) Than they will have obtained greatness. And i'm happy to say, I overcame it.
 * I'm saying no. Chances are the Sypher reached into Shep's mind and showed itself to him as something that he'd been thinking of, in this case the kid. I assumed the blacka t the edge of the screen was a visual representation of indoctrination (just look at TIM's face. Back, kind of tentacly goop.) Now granted, I only got the bad ending. (Purposefully did none of the side quests in this one and made poor choices, just to see what would happen. Still have to go through the whole series to REALLY screw myself, though.) SO maybe there's tons more I'm missing, but I think it made perfect sence, overall The reason for the Reapers doing their thing was fine for myself. Hell, the fact that voerall the endings are kinda the same also makes ence. This is the last one, as far as we know, to have save file transer. but let's not kid ourselves. This is NOT the final entry intot he series. They needed a main, singular, cohesive cannon ending because of that. If they gave several choices thy're just tick off even MORE people who dont like the "cannon" ending.NickTyrong 01:02, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * That said I wouldn't OBJECT ot it having been a halucination, and this being revealed in DLC.NickTyrong 01:03, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Galaxy Map
I have a new idea for the galaxy map on the Milky Way page. The five regions, such as Alliance Space and the Terminus systems, have finally been shown as a visual we can see. Why not use that map (Galaxy at War Map) on the Milky Way page instead of the mass effect galaxy map already there. Just as the mass effect galaxy map has links built into the image, we can build links into the regions on the Galaxy at War map. This way players can use it as a navigational map to narrow their searches to clusters, systems, and planets. It would combine the whole ME universe into one map. I believe it would be easier and interesting to visually see what regions systems and planets fall under.

This could also mean adding regions to the planet's pages. (Location: Galaxy / Region / Cluster / System / Planet) I really think this could be a very neat and clean representation of the Galaxy and locationsKcBrN 00:58, March 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd only be willing to add a map like that for the ME3 section of the Milky Way page since we know for certain where all clusters across the entire trilogy are located. ME3 doesn't include several ME and ME2 clusters. If you want to propose the project, do so in the wiki's Project Forum and make sure you can produce a working model. Once the community agrees on design of the project, then it can be put to a vote and implemented if it is approved. If you're not sure how to produce the working map (I know it's beyond my skills), we might want to postpone the proposal until things settle down and we can seek the assistance of some of our more knowledgeable editors. In that case, remind me of this in a month or so and I'll try and get the ball rolling. I also want to make sure we have all of the new cluster, system, and planet pages up before we start on something like this. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:08, March 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I do not have the skills required for that so I will wait. In the meantime, I will make myself useful in making sure all cluster, system, and planet pages are up. Thanks KcBrN 01:36, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

I am such a bonehead. Remind me again how to sign my watercooler forum posts. I used the signature button but it leaves a number instead of my name.Nuveena7

Thane Page Vandalized
Commdor the Thane Krios page has been severely vandalized, with only a message left, obviously someone must have pissed him off majorly, I just wanted to bring this to your attention. TheRealTerminal 23:35, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Artbooks
Hi Commdor, I have something to ask you.

Since I'm new here and you are one of the administrator, I wanted to know if we can use the information from the official artbooks of Bioware, like The Art of Mass Effect 3.

I think yes, since I saw some pages with them like the N7 page mentioning some information from The Art of Mass Effect. They contain countless information on the games and where Bioware take their ideas. We can also see on The Art of Mass Effect 3 more variations about the pigmentation of the protheans (protheans which are not so visible during the flashback in Mass Effect 3) based on designs for the Prothean's armor, with a dark purple, red, yellow and gray protheans.

Can I add those informations with sources (or images) on pages =)? Admiral Jacoren 00:04, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Most of the art book info would only be permissible in trivia sections in articles since it details "behind the scenes" aspects of designing the games, but not all of it is notable enough. You're welcome to add what details you think are worth mentioning, but note that I or other users may disagree with the notability (for instance, I would not consider mentioning that Javik had various skin colors tried before his design was finalized to be particularly noteworthy). Scans from the art books aren't permitted on the wiki, however, because of potential copyright issues. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:21, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for you reply ;). Otherwise for the pigmentation of the protheans, it is more related to the Prothean's armor, and therefore the prothean race itself than Javik himself. Here the image, what do you think? Admiral Jacoren 00:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I believe Javik's article already has a trivia blurb about his armor. Since the armor may not be worn by the entire race (or everyone in the Empire since we now know there were multiple races under the Protheans' banner) and we mostly see it only on Javik (I think the flashbacks show a couple other Protheans briefly), the info would pertain primarily to him because of the strength of the association. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:01, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

All right, thanks for all your help my friend =), and sorry for taking your time about that. Have a good one and see soon! Admiral Jacoren 01:12, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure thing, I'm happy to be of assistance. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:13, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Changing Orbit
I'm not sure what to do so I'm bringing it to your attention. Intai'sei was a DLC planet in ME's Pinnacle Station. It appears that Bioware made a mistake in placing the planet as the Fifth planet in ME when in ME3 it is the Third planet. The planet stats vary slightly. Do we make a Mass Effect and Mass Effect 3 section? KcBrN 00:42, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * First, which stats are different? Radius, colony population, others? -- Commdor (Talk) 00:46, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Only Orbital distance wich in ME is 15.7 and in ME3 is 15.68. That's not enough to make up for the two planet orbit change. KcBrN 01:01, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Are the orbital distances of any other planets in the system different from ME as well? -- Commdor (Talk) 01:11, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well everything is good except for orbital distances. Now I am looking at the information on this wiki for ME. I don't have the actual game up. However I do have ME3 up. Now, in ME all planets in the Phoenix system have N/A for orbital distance except for Intai'sei. ME3, all planets have orbital distance information. Again, all other information matches. KcBrN 01:30, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. What I'd do is add the orbital distance info to all of the other planet articles, but leave Intai'sei as it is for now. This is the first time out of all the games we've had such conflicting info for a planet, so I'll need to work out something that allows us to display the ME3 info without having to create another article or split the article into two overall parts. I'll work on it this weekend when I have more time. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:34, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok sounds good KcBrN 01:40, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

So...
What did I miss? Anything important? Seems like you've been busy. Lancer1289 02:36, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think you missed too much. There was a spate of vandalism a few hours ago and a couple spam articles, but I believe I got it all. Now that I'm not forcing myself to stay on every waking hour, it's much less pressure. But could you check the name of the Ardat-Yakshi monastery mission in your game again (if you still can)? Twice now some anonymous users have added mission info to the Lesuss redirect, and I can't help but wonder if it's for a reason. And oddly, from the Nimbus Cluster page, Lesuss isn't even in the Kallini system. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:47, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I did look at that earlier, and it still said Kallini. When I manage to get to it again on my current playthrough, I'll look again. There is something strange going on. Lancer1289 02:50, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also also, is the Kepler Verge cluster in ME3? -- Commdor (Talk) 03:12, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not that I could remember, but I can check in a few minutes. Lancer1289 03:15, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK I love that quick save feature BioWare added. I have just checked and what do I find, Kepler Verge. Only the Newton System is unlocked. Just for reference, this is from a near end game save, so it may not unlock until later, but it is there. Lancer1289 03:29, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool. Looks like ME3 has more clusters than the two previous games without DLC. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:39, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Images
Hi Commodor, I was wondering would these images be of any use to the articles.


 * (Link 1)
 * (Link 2)

If so feel free to use them becasue I don't feel confident enough to edit on this wiki yet. -- ► Kaloneous ◄♣HelpDesk♣ 08:49, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of them look like something we can't use. Lancer1289 12:17, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Wrongly blocked ip
Commdor, I receieved this message earlier before logging in.

The block was made by Commdor.

Reason given: Removing content from pages

Start of block: 02:08, March 8, 2012

Expiry of block: 02:08, March 22, 2012

Intended blockee: 153.107.33.155

Block ID: #4742

Current IP address: 153.107.33.155

This makes no sense, I have not deleted any content at all off of this wiki, I have made 1 page, and talked on various forums, please clarify. TheRealTerminal 22:39, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * This edit was made by the above unregistered contributor. I don't know if that was you or not, but regardless, whoever last used that IP address used it for vandalism and that's why it was blocked. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:32, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry forgot to sign my post. It could not have been made by me, but I am using a school laptop at the moment, they were given out to everyone in year 9, that was a year ago, so both year 9 and 10 have school laptops, and use the school internet. Is it possible it could have been someone else on the network? P.S Also I love this series and Ashley, so saying that would be an extremely hypocrytical thing. TheRealTerminal 22:39, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * If this IP address is being used by your school's network, it's very likely that someone at your school made that edit. School IP addresses are frequently abused like that, Wikipedia blocks thousands of them for years at a time. I don't want to unblock the address since it would invite another incident, but if you can still log in you're fine. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:47, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou for clarifying Commdor, I will still be able to log in, at least as long as they don't block this wiki. By the way, how do I attach an image to my front page, like yours, I want to take a picture of my ME collection to add a bit of personality to it. TheRealTerminal 22:54, March 15, 2012 (UTC) TheRealTerminal 22:54, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * See the instructions here on how to upload images. When uploading an image make sure that it has a clear and meaningful file name (no number jumbles) and that you state somewhere in the summary that the image is intended for your personal use. You're allowed to have up to 10 total personal images in your user space. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:00, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Boss TheRealTerminal 23:04, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Cluster template.
Hey Commdor, about that template, I've done some work on it in my sandbox and almost got it done. Take a look at a sample here. I'm designing the template based on existing layouts to prevent major changes to the existing clusters. There's one thing that stumped me though; I tried figuring out how to remove the last bullet separator but to no avail. Any chance you have an idea how to solve it? In the same time, could you also look at the rest of the Cluster templates and let me know if there's any optimization or improvement that can be done. Thanks! — Teugene (Talk) 03:58, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've made more amendments to the Cluster template. There's nothing to change to the existing templates except for one - inserting of the "end=1" to prevent the last bullet separator from showing. If this current edit is fine, I shall start implementing the template into the wiki. — Teugene (Talk) 03:50, March 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. Fire away. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:00, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Speculation Page
I'm not sure what is going on with all this "I want a new ending", "everybody vote for a new ending" is but I think someone created a page based on these quotes. It's called Marauder Shields. I really don't think it belongs here. KcBrN 08:41, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's been created and deleted several times. People seem to want to lash out at the ending of the game by vandalizing our wiki. Good times... SpartHawg948 08:21, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm glad you guys are on it. I appreciate the hard work that is put into this wiki. It's clean and mostly accurate. In my few days of editing I have seen the admin go through some pretty stressful stuff. Even correct my mistakes. It looks like a lot of hard work and I appreciate it. When I was deployed last year, I would spend my off time escaping the real world and into the mass effect universe by reading this wiki. Keep up the work guys. KcBrN 08:41, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Just a quick heads up...
Apparently there's a concerted effort going to vandalize the wiki regarding this "Marauder Shields" nonsense. SpartHawg948 08:49, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. I shall keep watch until the next 2 hours. — Teugene (Talk) 08:52, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Susskind connection?
Editing Trikalon, I found an asari project that was renamed "Susskind Supercollider" after humans took over the project. I search "Susskind Supercollider" to see if it had a page and found Susskind Station. Susskind Station was cut from Mass Effect 2 at the last minute. I don't believe this connection has in relevance to the games but it is kinda interesting. What do you think? KcBrN 09:37, March 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the Susskind Station page has no relation to the Supercollider except for the name. There was, however, a couple of Cerberus Daily News reports about the Supercolldier. I've linked to them in the Trikalon article. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:13, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Qoutes?
Hi, I've been clicking through random pages, finding things to add/fix (section titles, grammar mistakes, etc.) and I have an idea I'd like to run by you. For some of the less prominent characters, such as Vigil, I feel they could use a head qoute like the other characters. Something that really contributes or defines them or their character. What do you think?--Insanityhelper 00:57, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * We have rules for headquotes and Vigil wouldn't fall into the category that it would be allowed on. Major NPCs, Enemies, and squadmates get them. Examples include, but are not limited to: Anderson, Udina, Joker, EDI, Saren, Harbinger, Illusive Man, Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus. Lancer1289 01:01, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright then. Thought it couldn't hurt to see.--Insanityhelper 01:03, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Jon Grissom Academy
If you don't mind me asking, why was the picture of the students deleted from the Jon Grissom Academy page? Just so that I know for future reference. Yanxa 13:23, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * My mistake. I deleted that entire section in order to rewrite it and must have forgotten to re-add the image. I've fixed it now. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:02, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. Yanxa 12:06, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Additional weapons
Lancer didn't respond, so I'm throwing it over to you for advice.

I've put up every single ME3 weapon image, heavies included. I've also found images for the Synching Laser from Reaper Base and Geth Combat Software from Geth Fighters missions, but we have no apropriate pages. Should I get them done? The first one is technically a heavy weapon, and the GCS shares the crosshairs with those, so I assume it fits there too. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  23:17, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not familiar with either of those, I'm not that far in the game yet. But if, mechanically, these weapons fill the role of heavy weapons as seen elsewhere in the game, then I'd be fine with creating articles for them. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:25, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can wait for you to confirm this once you've seen them. They're specific to the missions in which they appear and I don't want to spoil things for you. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  23:39, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, you can go ahead. I read the leaked file back in November and I've been editing the wiki every day since launch, so there's not much left to spoil. It'll probably take a few more days for me to get to the missions where these weapons appear anyway, and I'd rather we have the articles up sooner. Also, just wondering, could you do the same thing for the multiplayer's Cobra Missile Launcher? I didn't want to make an article for that because I was sure there wasn't going to be any images or flavor text, but if it's in the same vein as the Synching Laser and GCS, we might as well. If not, I'll make a redirect for it. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:48, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, I can dig through the game, except I have no clue what that thing looks like. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  00:58, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Did it ever occur to you that I had other things to take care of? I didn't say anything because I had no objections. Lancer1289 01:10, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * You didn't confirm it either. So I went for a second opinion. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  01:28, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon Clip Edits
Can I ask why they are being edited? I'm putting those in because if they are used with clip upgrades thats potentially how much ammunition in a clip they have. JouninOfDespair 00:19, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * As I stated in the edit summaries, the template is intended to show only the basic, unaltered, non-upgraded stats for the weapons. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:22, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ok fair enough. Point taken. JouninOfDespair 00:24, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Husk
I've been thinking about the Husk page. I'm not sure if all synthetic creatures (organics changed to synthetic via reaper technology) are called husks or not, but I feel like the Husk page should be called something else that all of these synthetic creatures would be called. I'm sure the page was named Husk only because before ME3 all human husks were all there was. Your thoughts? KcBrN 00:26, March 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, ME3's Codex entries and other lore use "Husk" as a generalized term to refer all of the Reaper-converted synthetic creatures ("Troop Transports carry husks to unconquered planets...", "This has left [Irune's cities] vulnerable to husk attack...", etc.), so the way we have the article set up is correct. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:41, March 20, 2012 (UTC)