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Jigsaw killer was quite complex, he used his engineer genius to construct traps, made complex master plans. He was motivated to change his victims' view on life, so they should appreciate it. Arthas was motivated to save his people from a plague and demons, but his lust of victory blinded him so much that he became, what he was fighting against. He became power hungry, but on the beginning he was an arrogant idealist, he;s dynamic character, what makes him interesting. Some protagonist villains were interesting like Lelouch, his goals were mixture of good and evil, he was a very smart strategist and he master of poker face. His biggest enemy Schneizel was even more skilled manipulator than him and turning his own followers against him was very unexpected. Similar to Lelouch was Light Yagami. Amon from Avatar was a terrorist, but he had an idealism despite he was fighting against own kind and hiding his true nature. Orochimaru wanted not only power, but he also tried to become immortal and master of all techniques, he made a very complex plan, he manipulated many people and they didn't even realise it until it was quite late. Althought his plans failed I respect his clever manipulations. Althought Pain was manipulated, he had idealism and many interesting powers. Another idealist, who became what he fought against was Darth Revan. Hush was one of the most manipulative enemies of Batman, his goal is simple, but was very skilled, if he was able to manipulate most of master manipulators. In another major product of Bioware was Loghain Mac Tir, another villain with mixture of patriotism and control obssession as his goals, fallen heroes like him are interesting.