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Another Spammer
User 183.181.174.201 decided to over-write the M-44 Hammerhead article with spam. TheUnknown285 (talk) 06:28, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Teugene dealt with this already. Just a heads up. Lancer1289 (talk) 12:59, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Video Game Olympics
Hello, my name is Nic and I'm a member of the Wik ia Devel opment Te am. We are going to be running a Video Game Olympics promotion, where we determine which game characters would be most suited to win certain Olympic events. A character from your wiki has been selected as one of the participants of this promotion. In order to promote this, we would like to add a participant badge to your main page in the top right column. Would you be willing to participate in this promotion? It's totally up to you whether or not you add the badge. Please respond accordingly. Thanks. - Wagnike2 (talk) 20:42, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll check with our wiki's bureaucrat, Spart, to be sure, but I think we'll be happy to participate. I'll let you know once I get a response. If I may ask, which character was selected for the promotion? Also, I had to break up three words in your post (you'll see them), they were triggering the spam filter for some reason. -- Commdor (Talk) 05:39, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is not, thanks for getting back to me. I will be adding the badge to your main page either today or tomorrow. - Wagnike2 (talk) 19:09, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's precisely where it'll go. :-) - Wagnike2 (talk) 19:17, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

TOR Wiki - Friends
Hi, there Commdor! I am the admin of TOR Wiki and I was wondering if the two wikis can be friends (or affiliates if you so desire :D) Considering both wikis are for BioWare games I don't see why not. What do you think? Dosadnik 1 (talk) 19:38, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * That'll be up to our community, we require affiliation requests to be put to a vote. Make a formal proposal for affiliation between our two wikis at the policy forum. If, after a seven-day voting period, your proposal is approved by a majority of respondents, The Old Republic Wiki will become an affiliate and we'll link to you on our main page. If you have any further questions about the process, let me know and I'll do my best to help. -- Commdor (Talk) 05:25, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Very well! I shall do that. Also I apologize for not signing my post, I just noticed. Dosadnik 1 (talk) 19:38, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal.
This guy just created a new page full of nonsense,[],--Legionwrex (talk) 06:38, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Question regarding blog use
Hi, Commdor,

I've written a few reviews on another site, including one of Mass Effect 2. Would it be okay to post review links on my blog here? I would only post links to reviews relevant to the ME Wiki (Mass Effect and possibly Dragon Age, if I ever get them done). Would that be okay or would that be considered spamming? Thanks! TheUnknown285 (talk) 07:38, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * That would be acceptable, user blogs can be used for anything the user wants within reason. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:49, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Thanks for responding. TheUnknown285 (talk) 20:51, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks (War Asset Forum Post)
Thanks for editing my first post(that was FAST btw xD), if there's anything you want changed feel free to change it or inform me so I can apply the changes myself :p

--MEnewbee (talk) 05:35, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Question.
I'm trying to figure out how to use/activate my Sandbox page, but I just can't find it.

I'm not sure if it already exists or if I need to create it, so I was wondering if you could possibly help me out.--Legionwrex (talk) 23:30, July 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * You have to create it from scratch like any other page. You can use the title "User:Legionwrex/Sandbox" for it. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:38, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--Legionwrex (talk) 23:54, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you again, but where would I go to create this Sandbox, do I just create a page with that title, or is there a special area I need to go to?--Legionwrex (talk) 23:58, July 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep, just create a page with that title. -- Commdor (Talk) 00:04, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Points of Interest Templates
I've noticed while editing the planets that can be landed on in Mass Effect that the little point of interest bullets have disappeared. (E.g. Metgos, Tuntau) I tried to follow the templates into the rabbit hole, so to speak, but I ended with this: class="poi-bullet-yellow" (or class="poi-bullet-red"). Since I don't know where the stylesheet is, can you take a look at it, or give me a link? Trandra (talk) 18:00, August 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * It should be fixed now. The images were gone because I deleted them not too long ago while clearing out Special:UnusedFiles. I think this is the last of such images I inadvertently deleted, but if you notice any other templates that seem to be missing image files, let me know. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:22, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Siano
I don't mean to be a bother, but I was curious what I did wrong when I added Trivia to the page on Siano. Are planets not allowed trivia or did I write it wrong? Thank you for your help.

P.S. Foundation Trilogy is awesome.

--LucidValvo (talk) 22:09, August 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * See the Siano talk page for my response to your comment there. The long and short of it is that unless we have an official source confirming there's a reference, it can't be added to the article. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:12, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Tomorrow
Commdor, I figured I should let you know, I will be offline all day tomorrow as I will be attending my cousin's wedding. I probably won't be on again until Sunday morning or afternoon and I'm about to get off for the night anyway. I need to get some sleep as I will be driving there by myself and it's two and a half hour drive at least. Lancer1289 (talk) 03:14, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool. I'll hold down the fort. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:17, August 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * So did I miss anything? Sorry for logging on so late, but driving 3+ hours by yourself is rather draining. Lancer1289 (talk) 22:14, August 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nope. I'd even say it was somewhat quieter than usual. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:16, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Advertising on Talk page.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas uuupppppppppppppp.........Anyways, user User:Zombi3M4n is advertising on his talk page.--Legionwrex (talk) 06:17, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Taken care of. Another user had posted the spam. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:46, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Name Change Tag.
If I wanted to propose a name change of an article, is there a certain tag I have to use (similar to the delete tag) or do I just create a section on its talk page? If I do need said tag, would you mind linking it to me?--Legionwrex (talk) 03:27, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be the Move template. The wiki text is . Trandra (talk) 03:55, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * What Trandra said. Keep in mind that articles should usually only be moved if the title they currently use is incorrect (a misspelling or not an exact in-game name, although there are a handful of exceptions for various reasons) or not in line with an established format. In some of these cases (mainly corrections), the move can proceed without discussion at the discretion of an admin. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:03, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * The above statement is slightly incorrect in the fact that it only applies to new articles, not ones that have been around for a while. My comment below elaborates on this point. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:00, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Moving Pages
I am putting this here before I take action but your move on the Balak page is not supported by precedent and will be reverted. We have to follow procedure in cases like this, one example is Dr. Daniel Abrams, which Spart proposed and still was seven days before it was moved; Greg Adams seven day waiting period; Dr. Karin Chakwas again seven days; Steve Cortez again another seven days and I think you can see where this is going. We do not move pages immediately unless there is a misspelling upon creation or something of that nature. Any move is still subject to the seven day period, even if new information comes along. I even dug through the move log and I still couldn't find anything to support what you did. Please do keep this in mind in the future. Lancer1289 (talk) 04:47, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't see why moving a character article to its full name requires the usual discussion process, though. The intent is the same as correcting a misspelling, and it adds previously unavailable or omitted information that we would have used from the start if we had it when the article was created. I know we held full discussions for the articles you've listed, but in every case the move was non-controversial and widely supported by the community because it was common sense. If things hadn't been so busy at the time, I would have pushed for moving those articles immediately as well. Discussions should only be necessary when a move has nothing to do with maintenance, like the recent proposal to move "Video Archive", an article with an in-game title, to "Shadow Broker Video Archive", a title which the proposer believed was superior but wasn't supported by the game. That was a controversial move that the community needed to discuss and approve. -- Commdor (Talk) 05:06, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I would first like to tell you that I don't like leaving messages or having conversations like this, and because of that, I apologize for any offense implied or accidently received in advance since I'm a little rusty on this point.
 * As to the point, it is because of precedent and how things like this have been handled in the past. We can't make an exception to the rules, especially when that specific part of the rule has been supported by the b'crat on at least one occasion. If there is no precedent or instances to support an action, whether that action be by an admin or a user, then it can't be allowed. If you want to propose a change to this policy, then feel free. I can't assure you that I'll support it, I'll have to judge the wording of it, but you probably will get support from the community. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:14, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Commdor, I just wanted to know if you saw this and if you took offense, then I again apologize. I just wanted to know if you had seen this. Lancer1289 (talk) 20:05, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, no offense taken (also sorry for a delayed response, I read this last night but decided to respond in the morning, then predictably I forgot to do so). You're right to remind me of the necessity of following the rules. It's just frustrating that we can't expedite seemingly clear-cut actions like the Balak move. I'm all for adhering to protocols and precedent, but all of that exists to protect the wiki. Do we need to protect the wiki in this case? But I'll let it go. Such moves are rare enough as it is, and I'd only want to go through with a policy change if this was going to be a major inconvenience instead of a negligible one. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:32, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes the obvious must be stated
Commdor, I'm sure you've noticed that in recent weeks, we've been having a lot of problems with people removing [sic] tags. Considering the number of them we do have, the fact that they aren't always clear why they are there, and my lack of faith the ability of some people to look up what it means, I think we should put a note in the MoS about it. I ran the text by Spart already and he said "that even the most obvious things often need to be emphasized and laid out in writing". I can't agree more. What do you think? Lancer1289 (talk) 02:22, August 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. Spart hit the nail on the head. If it continues to be a problem, we may want to think about upgrading the sic tag. The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages wiki has a nifty template that can be used to underline the subject word and link to the specific guideline. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:37, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hopefully we don't have to go that far, but if necessary I guess we will have no choice. I'll add the text now. Lancer1289 (talk) 02:38, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Lordofninjas1
Commdor, this is going to sound a smidge ridiculous, but have you encountered any users in the past two weeks on the forums asking about the Credit-USD exchange rate, and if so, did you ask them to ask their question on the Credits talk page? Arbington (talk) 20:28, August 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nope. I don't remember posting on a forum page about that subject and I can't find any such edits in my contributions for the last two weeks. And I certainly wouldn't direct a user asking that kind of speculative question to take it to an article talk page when it's already in the forums where it belongs. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:47, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly what I thought because Jake, Spart, or Teugene haven't been on the last two weeks, perhaps the last month really. So it would seem then that the spider has caught itself in its own web. Lancer1289 (talk) 20:50, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Commdor. Arbington (talk) 20:53, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Private Communication
I have something I'd like to ask you concerning the wiki, but I'd prefer to to keep it between the two of us. Do you have an email address or something I could use? --Mr. Mittens (talk) 21:00, August 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * You can use this tool to contact me. -- Commdor (Talk) 21:03, August 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll contact you once I collect my thoughts. --Mr. Mittens (talk) 21:04, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Energy Drain Image
I noticed that you removed and deleted the image from the Energy Drain page. Were you planning on removing all of the images from the ME2 loyalty powers? Trandra (talk) 03:27, August 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Now that I know other power articles have similar images, yes. The images aren't allowed per the Manual of Style, but it seems they were slipped in under the radar. They'll all have to go. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:32, August 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems that they were the Codex images for those powers. I was fond of them---it made it them special. Oh well!
 * And what about the power icon images? Those are not specifically called for in the MoS, but they appear on all of the ME2 power pages. (I would like to note that I am fond of those too, and want to add them to the ME3 sections/articles.) Trandra (talk) 04:15, August 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * The power icon images are used in all ME2 power articles (as far as I know) and are far less obtrusive, so I'd be fine with them staying and adding in the ME3 power icons if we could get them. -- Commdor (Talk) 04:40, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

My new Policy.
I was wondering if I could get your opinion on this,Forum:Flamewar Bans Policy Voting..

Keep in mind all the criteria must be met in order for a warning to be issued, and even then someone would have to ignore the warning to receive the ban.--Legionwrex (talk) 20:55, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Mass Effect 3 Cut Content
Is there going to be an article created for this like there is for ME2? I ask because I came across this video on YouTube for some apparently cut dialogue. TheUnknown285 (talk) 05:55, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * It depends on how much cut material is found. The video you linked to doesn't appear to contain any though, just the music played while accessing the Normandy's galaxy map. -- Commdor (Talk) 06:02, August 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops. I linked the wrong video.  Sorry about that.  That's what I get for having multiple windows up at the same time.  This is what I meant.  TheUnknown285 (talk) 06:05, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a start, but we'd need more to fill out the page. At most, this one video would supply 2-3 lines about there being excluded dialogue between Shepard and a Geth Prime on Earth. -- Commdor (Talk) 06:29, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright. Is there a good place to drop all of this material until enough can be found?  TheUnknown285 (talk) 06:35, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * You can create a sandbox and post it there for the time being. -- Commdor (Talk) 06:43, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Problem?
i have a problem in mass 2 tail on a massion study a star that become old very fast in mass 3 javik said that protheans was terned a star in to supernova to destroy zhatil tail said that the geth havent that kind of tech can we think that prothean did not vanish and use this tech on another non-organic race ? this event accor near geth border and we know peapers usee the geth in mass 2 & 3 peapers & prothean are only raceses that have kind of tech but peapers did not try to destory geth until tehy used them until end of war i mean the only answer is proteans --37.130.231.201 12:24, August 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. If it's about some possible link between the star Haestrom and the Protheans' apparent capability to destroy stars, there is no connection between the two hinted at anywhere in the lore. -- Commdor (Talk) 17:57, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal
Got a vandal for you (or the next admin to see this) to take care of: Special:Contributions/69.125.110.61. :-P Trandra (talk) 11:23, August 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. He has been blocked. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:39, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting Your Attention
I sent an email earlier that I think you might want to read ASAP. It deals with a potential problem and a concern that I have, especially in the recent days. Thanks. Lancer1289 (talk) 23:42, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

vandal
someone has just vandalised SpartHawg's talk page. --Ygrain (talk) 15:48, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * also lancer's. i'm tempted to copypaste the admins' old talk and userpage versions back since i don't have rollback powers but whatever. i'm not even sure if that's against the rules and they can easily revert everything later anyway. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 15:57, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dealt with. And for future reference, removing vandalism is the only exception under site policy that another editor can edit someone else's user space. Lancer1289 (talk) 16:12, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

A Very Serious Matter
Commdor. I need you to check your email at the earliest possible time because of a matter that was brought to my attention. There is also something else in there that I need you to look at that is separate from the major issue. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:28, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Sequel Consequences
I know we note the consequences of ME decisions on ME2 and ME3 and the consequences of ME2 decisions on ME3, but what about when the effects come not from choices you make during a mission but whether or not you completed it? The case I'm thinking of ME2: Arrival, where whether or not you completed the mission affects who gets the blame for the Alpha Relay's destruction (Shepard or Alliance troops), which in turn affects dialogue in a few missions and cutscenes (and maybe war assets). So, would it be okay to note that on the page for the Arrival mission? Thanks. TheUnknown285 (talk) 17:57, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * This should be noted as well. While we do indeed have consequences depending on decisions, and whether or not they are completed, we should also note if they aren't completed and its effects. Lancer1289 (talk) 18:25, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright. Thanks!  TheUnknown285 (talk) 18:31, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Email
Commdor, you would mind checking your email please? There's something I'd like a comment on. I will also be out for the next hour or so. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:23, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

It Works
It seems that Grunny, the person who modified the code for the RC, updated it for MediaWiki 1.19. I have since applied this code to the Common.js and after a few caching issues, it appears to be working just fine, well for me at least. It's about time we got the collapsible edits back. Just figured you should know in case you wondered what was going on. Lancer1289 (talk) 18:27, August 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Now that's good news. I had stopped using AJAX because the edit collapsing function got so frustrating. -- Commdor (Talk) 18:36, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Language Policy
Why did you give me a warning for offensive language? Mass Effect isn't a kids game and I doubt anyone is truly offended by the F word. I've been a forum user on several other wikis and have never seen a language policy like this besides, the exact wording of your policy is: "Offensive language, either toward other editors or in articles, is not tolerated. When deciding how to respond to an editor’s comments, consider how you would speak to a stranger face-to-face in public, as that is effectively what you are doing. If you find offensive language in an article, please correct or report it. Repeat offenders will be warned, then banned." So essentially "foul" language should not be used toward other editors or in articles. In my usage of the word it was used in a blog comment furthermore, going by your policy, my usage of the word didn't not interfere with your policy.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 19:05, August 26, 2012 (UTC).
 * And one of the reasons we have for banning people is "Crude or offensive language". We do not tolerate any kind of language like that here. What the game is rated is irrelevant, it is site policies that matter. I will not argue this issue further since I've had this argument at least a dozen times already. You cannot use crude/inappropriate language here, and what the game is rated is irrelevant. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:19, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

No wonder you have had this argument multiple times because it is unjust! We should be able to speak freely on this wiki much like other wikis. Regardless is there a list of what particular words we can't use? Because in it's current form I have no idea which words to use or not.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 22:36, August 26, 2012 (UTC).


 * If you don't like the policy, do something about it. Create a policy forum.


 * As to what words you can't use, anything that isn't PG.--Legionwrex (talk) 22:44, August 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * To quote BioWare's Stanley Woo, a moderator at the BioWare Social Network: "Our game's rating has no bearing on the kind of language that's acceptable in our forums. Forum discussion should be rated PG." I would also like to point out that each wiki is a separate entity that sets its own policies. Just because a practice is allowed on one wiki doesn't mean it's allowed on other wikis. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:52, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Oh believe me I know every wiki is its own entity but sill the greatest way to learn is from others. I could name at least half a dozen wikis where the users are perfectly happy with freedom of speech and they don't have to launch language policy changes every few weeks. Oh and you better believe I'm starting a policy forum. Challenge accepted.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 22:57, August 26, 2012 (UTC).


 * The language policy is in place because offensive language is not productive in any way and almost always causes problems between users. If other wikis are fine with allowing offensive language, good for them, but that doesn't necessarily make them better or more open wikis. One of the problems with the Halo Nation Wiki (and this has been noted by its own editors) is that some users have been using offensive language to intimidate new users and harass anyone who disagrees with them. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:12, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

What data do you base this on that it almost always causes problems? I've been a follower of the Fallout wiki for several years and people say whatever they want and almost no flame wars break out. Even Bethesda stated how Fallout fans are "their most beloved and most hated fans" due to their passion and way of being outspoken. I just can't comprehend how this language offends you, yet this wiki is based ON A GAME that has ridiculously "bad" language. I guess the game really offends you then.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 23:23, August 26, 2012 (UTC).


 * That's off base. Again, I direct you to BSN's stance on the issue: "Our game's rating has no bearing on the kind of language that's acceptable in our forums. Forum discussion should be rated PG." Is BioWare offended by offensive language? Obviously not given its inclusion in their games. But they make it clear that their games and their forums are not one and the same; you don't need offensive language to discuss the games, it serves no purpose except to disrupt and is thus unnecessary. The same reasoning applies at ME Wiki. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:34, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

You are still avoiding my question I want examples where "foul language" causes problems between users. Also how am I "off base"? You mentioned the Halo Nation wiki I mentioned the Fallout Wiki. As for "foul language" serving no purpose I strongly disagree. I firmly believe that using suggestive words adds emphasis to what is being described. Cursing is a useful tool for anyone who wants to firmly articulate a point.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 00:23, August 27, 2012 (UTC).