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Leave a message at the help desk or on my talk page if you need help with anything! Trandra (talk) 18:01, May 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the welcoming message! My first playthrough is still in progress, but I've already spent countless hours browsing the ; the whole universe is nothing short of awe-inspiring. I am indeed quite new to wikis in general, but I hope I'll be able to start making useful contributions myself as well. I'll check out the links you posted, thanks again! --Elseweyr 11:28, May 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Welcome to our community, feel free to ask questions about Mass Effect or the wiki. --DeldiRe 11:43, May 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I'll have to keep restraining myself so as to avoid spoilers until I've completed the trilogy, but once I have, it'll be great to start exploring the universe for real. (Not literally, but fortunately that's what we have Mass Effect for!) --Elseweyr (talk) 12:08, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Help for quality check
Hi Elseweyr,

I saw that you made a some work to clean several pages and I need some help before implementing a project especially because I'm not a native english speaker (as you can read ;) ).

Could you please make a quality check (grammar/spelling/layout/syntax) on three of my sandbox pages please ? Feel free to edits those pages, you have my permission to do so (a formal permission is needed to edit users pages):
 * User:DeldiRe/Sandbox/N7 HQ
 * User:DeldiRe/Sandbox/Mass Effect 3: Galaxy At War
 * User:DeldiRe/Sandbox/Mass Effect 3: Datapad

Thanks in advance. --DeldiRe 08:43, July 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey DeldiRe,
 * First of all, you seem to have done a great job with those pages! I appreciate you entrusting me with revising them, and will do my best to help you out. I still feel obliged to inform you that even though English is my primary language for all academic purposes, I'm not a native speaker either. I'm confident that I can be of use, but if you wish to ensure that the language is truly native-like, you might want to have a native speaker at least read it through. Elseweyr (talk) 09:37, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, I'm sure that admins or others users will make some adjustments when those pages will be implemented so it will be ok.--DeldiRe 10:01, July 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your first corrections so far, keep up the good work ;). Those three pages will be clear this week I think and I hope that I will be able to implement them before the week end. --DeldiRe 14:56, July 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Happy to help! I'll be going away over the weekend, but I'll do as much revising as possible before that. Elseweyr (talk) 16:21, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

If you strt correction on MEI content, there is a looooooooooot of work on the Walkthrough of the missions articles ;)--DeldiRe 09:49, July 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * You're probably right, but unfortunately I haven't played the game at all (because I don't own the right mobile device), so I'd only feel partially qualified to make adjustments. Plus, in the unlikely event that I'm able to lay my hands on the game at some point, I'd like it unspoiled :) Elseweyr (talk) 10:04, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

We have a deal for electronics ;) --DeldiRe 13:57, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fortunately my Renegade score was high enough to resolve the situation peacefully through Intimidation ;) Joking aside, joint revisions are probably more fruitful anyway, and completely welcome on my behalf. Elseweyr (talk) 19:50, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again for your quality check on MEI articles --DeldiRe 09:59, August 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Happy to help. — Elseweyr (talk) 10:17, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

yes the sources are the locations provided by Miranda. Once more do not hesitate to edit my sandboxes for the cleanup. --DeldiRe (Talk) 18:49, August 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright. I'll be busy with other things for the rest of the evening; back tomorrow. — Elseweyr (talk) 20:55, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Just so it's clear
See counterexamples below. I didn't make these, I just followed the patterns set.
 * 1) Combat
 * 2) Geth Juggernaut
 * 3) Shock Trooper
 * 4) Overload
 * 5) Armax Arsenal
 * 6) Krogan Warlord
 * 7) Many, many more

Like you I just want to help out but I would rather not have these silly nonsense edit wars since they are to the detriment of what we're trying to achieve. Good day. 176.31.226.184 13:27, July 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Mentioning other similar instances doesn't make it more correct or relevant. The disambiguation hatnotes are not supposed to include links that aren't ambiguous with the title in question, which makes perfect sense (and which in turn I didn't make up). This can be found in the MoS ("Each additional link in the hatnote besides the ambiguous or confusable topic(s) makes it more difficult to find the desired target."); in these particular cases I don't think there's any reason for additional linking. Elseweyr (talk) 13:42, July 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * That is from Wikipedia. This is the Mass Effect Wiki. I believe it has been stated multiple times by multiple admins across multiple wikis that things are done differently in every wiki. If "my" formatting change was wrong, the counterexamples I listed would have been edited by other users or the admins themselves long before I started caring about this site. 176.31.226.184 13:51, July 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I am well aware of which wiki this is, and you are not helping your case. I questioned whether your edits were true improvements, then consulted the disambiguation page, found support, and rightfully reverted your edits in a hopefully non-hostile manner. Your last argument doesn't permit an article to contain mistakes at all (and ironically removes the need for your own edits), so I fear you are shooting yourself in the foot. Nevertheless, your edits might not be wrong, so I'll wait and see what happens. A very good day to you, too. Elseweyr (talk) 18:50, July 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * i'm just the newest janitor with extra buttons here so don't construe my judgment as "admin abuse" plz. to my knowledge as far as this wiki's concerned extra links in disambig templates are allowable. no one had an issue with it before since it's a trivial thing. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 20:14, July 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for sorting this out; I agree it was perhaps blown out of proportion a little bit. Elseweyr (talk) 20:29, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

query
was your last blog just an exercise in venting, or did you forget to turn on commenting for it? here's your friendly reminder if the latter; carry on/ignore this message if the former. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 07:52, July 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Both. (I suppose I'd be dishonest if I claimed I didn't hope it'd inspire some conversation, if just a little.) Thanks! Elseweyr (talk) 17:25, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

rescel and wallace data
are correct. just checked.

normally i don't bother praising people over routine ops like this, though since you haven't been patted on the back yet by any of the others who care for wiki maintenance then here it is. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 04:25, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Appreciate it (: Elseweyr (talk) 06:55, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

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I care for the fixing. the war between the quarians and geth was called,"The Morning Wars" please don't change it.

Template Hint
Yo, when you're editing templates you need to purge the page to see the changes manifest themselves. Purging the page can be done one of two ways: importScriptPage('PurgeButton/code.js', 'dev');
 * 1) By typing  after the page name
 * 2) By clicking here and putting in the following code so that you get a cool new option in your edit button drop down that says, "Purge."

Note: You can go to this page to make the purge option appear on all Wikia wikis you edit. Trandra (talk) 20:51, August 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sweet! Thanks for your trouble. — Elseweyr (talk) 21:46, August 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I noticed you changing your JS customizations and realized that the link I gave you to the global.js is wrong. If it's on a single wiki, it's at wikia.js; at the Wikia wide one, you change global.js at the Community Wikia. I fixed the link above to bring you to the right place. Trandra (talk) 01:28, August 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Acknowledged. — Elseweyr (talk) 07:27, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

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Hi I was wondering if you could help me set up my clans wiki just search for Crue wiki thanks just contact me when you can. Zeeow100Zeeow100 (talk) 19:24, August 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, (1) I have no idea what you're talking about and (2) atm I'm devoted to the MEWiki only. — Elseweyr (talk) 21:17, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Rachni Song Edits
Hi, I was directed here by Temporaryeditor78 re: the reversion of my recent edits to the Rachni page. Basically, I'm just trying to get a line in there that unambiguously states that there is no factual connection between the "songs" heard on Luna, etc. & the Rachni. This is important because both the mention of these songs on the Rachni page & the phrase "commonly associated with the rachni" imply a connection. I'm not sure if your disagreement lies w/ my point or simply my implementation, but either way, please let me know. Thanks. Knives182 (talk) 20:09, September 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * 'Commonly associated with the rachni' means just that: people commonly associate the sounds with rachni, and why shouldn't they? Like it or not, it is a fact that the sounds are present in the game, and it is equally (or more) problematic to go ahead and explicitly state that there is no connection. The sentence that mentions the possibility of shared aubio-libraries is more than enough to imply that the sounds may not have been intended as rachni songs.


 * Aside from needlessly stressing this lack of connection, the edit I undid also contained capitalised race names and an unnecessary link to whale sounds. The article should be fine as it is now. — Elseweyr (talk) 20:33, September 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * First off, my bad about the race capitalization. I'd definitely recommend mentioning something like this in your edit when correcting a new user in the future; not everyone is going to pore over the style guide before their 1st post.


 * As for the content in question, people can think theorize as they please. But this wiki shouldn't associate these songs w/ the Rachni, because there is absolutely no evidence that the two are related. It's nothing more than a fan theory&mdash;which is fine for a trivia section, provided it's clearly identified as such. But if it's not, we run the risk of propagating theory as fact, & that's serious business for a wiki, as I'm sure you know.


 * I think if we clarified the opening line to mention who exactly is associating these songs w/ the Rachni (fans), & tweaked the audio library bit so that it comes off as a stronger alternative&mdash;e.g., "However, these sounds may simply be the result of BioWare using the same audio library as..." then the overall tone of the section would be much more appropriate. Even if you're unconvinced, do such small changes really detract from the article? Seems pretty low-risk to me; low enough that if it prevents even a couple readers from misconstruing our information, it was worth it.


 * I've never asked permission to make such small, common-sense edits before, but given the situation I will wait for your feedback. Knives182 (talk) 03:00, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * No-one is expected to know all the rules from the start, but if you think you can start editing articles without knowing what you're doing and have each user who corrects them provide a tutorial on how it should have been done in the edit summary, you'll probably be disappointed. If you want your edits to stand, it is your responsibility to make sure they're valid, not other editors'.
 * You did the right thing in consulting involved users directly, but making any sorts of false claims won't help you (for example, in your first post you state that you were directed here by another user -- which you weren't, but you made it up for some reason).
 * I'm repeating myself, but the assumption you're making is: 'there is no proof of a connection' → 'there is no connection'. The current formulation only describes what is present in the game, as it should be, and there is no propagation of theory as fact, which is closer to what you are doing. Tweak it all you want, but accept that other users may disagree with you, in which case you also need to get the support of users who do agree with you. (A trivial issue like this might not be worth the trouble.) — Elseweyr (talk) 07:54, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * So just in the spirit of a healthy discussion of the core issue (that there's no proven connection, and therefore what should we do about it), I could see adding a short sentence towards the end of the disputed paragraph on the Rachni page to the effect of "It is unknown, however, whether any specific connection to the Rachni is implied by the presence of these sounds in these additional locations." Possibly right before the reference to Epic would work, or right after it. In other words I think a minor disclaimer toward the end, in this one central location, is a reasonable idea - whereas the substantial rewrite proposed by Knives seemed a little over-the-top in the disclaimer department to me. My 2 cents. Cattlesquat (talk) 14:24, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm with Cattlesquat on this one, a short disclaimer seems to be the right solution. --DeldiRe (talk) 15:37, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Shoorr. The edit I reverted was a 'multiple problems' one, and it's way down the history page now anyway. Maybe leave out links to whale vocalisation pages next time, though. — Elseweyr (talk) 18:17, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh most def - not arguing for the original edit. Just looking to save the IMHO worthwhile thought. Cattlesquat (talk) 18:25, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've added a line that reads "It is unknown, however, whether any specific connection to the rachni is implied by the presence of these sounds", as Cattle suggested, just before the audio libraries sentence. Many thanks to those who chimed in.


 * And Elseweyr, to address your point 2. re: my "making things up", I took Temporary's blunt refusal to assist me, along w/ his poorly-worded comment re: "which actions were made by which", as direction to the other involved party: yourself. Hope that elucidates my thinking. Knives182 (talk) 01:31, September 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Your thinking is clear enough, but since you stressed your inexperience: engaging in invalid editing and ill-advisedly reprimanding other users for correcting you is time-consuming and irritating. To avoid this, simply do your homework. Please feel encouraged to keep contributing, however; when you're a hardened vet in six months or so, beginner's mistakes won't mean a thing. — Elseweyr (talk) 09:11, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

ME3 Guide
Saw your ME3 guide changes - there's a paragraph up at the top of that section that purports to explain the difference between a "progress-sensitive mission" and a "timed mission", and at least one of the ones you've changed to progress-sensitive seems to meet the definition given of "timed". BUT, that said I'm not a big fan of dividing things into two hardly-different categories especially when currently as far as I can tell only ONE mission (Tuchanka: Bomb) even fits into the timed category by the definition and NONE are currently marked as such. So I'm suggesting you might want to just whack the whole concept of "Timed Mission" as a label on this page to carry to a logical conclusion the implications of what you've already changed.

On a related but broader note, I'm personally pretty dissatisfied with the way the ME3 Guide's "side missions" section is organized - basically a big mess with lots of loosely-related stuff poorly grouped together with the marking of special cases seemingly the rule rather than the exception. So if you have any ideas for reorganizing that section I'd love to hear them - obviously we'd probably need to do some sandboxing and either a talkpage or maybe even a project vote. I haven't attempted anything myself yet partially because I haven't thought of a truly better idea, but wanted to mention my dissatisfaction since you've taken an interest in the page. Cattlesquat (talk) 14:52, September 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah. Thanks for bringing that to my attention; I did edit in ignorance of this. Let me just investigate for a bit...
 * I've actually edited the page only once (today), rashly assuming I was correcting a consistency error. Undone now.
 * Unfortunately, I can't readily think of a clearly better way to arrange the missions than the alphabetic order they're already in (my eyes spot two seemingly accidental exceptions: Benning: Evidence and Citadel: Dr. Bryson). They could be grouped into 'Citadel missions' (the small ones you complete on the Citadel) and/or missions that can be acquired at a certain point but not completed before another -- if not for a couple of problems:
 * Many of the smaller Citadel missions' journal entry titles don't mention the Citadel at all, but instead the planet you need to scan or visit, such as Irune or Benning. Somewhat trivial, but rubs me the wrong way a little bit, since they can be acquired off-Citadel, if only completed there.
 * With several categories, many missions are going to fit in multiple ones, and I think we'd like to have only one instance of each mission on the page if possible.
 * As for the two progress types, definitely 'progress-sensitive' &ne; 'timed', though as you said, it seems only Tuchanka: Bomb meets the conditions of the latter. Not sure if it's a huge problem; maybe just remove the explanation from the beginning as the timedness of the Bomb mission is indeed unique. — Elseweyr (talk) 15:41, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

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Hi there. Do you know of a way to view the n7hq leaderboards across all platforms. Since I play on PC, I can of course, only view the PC Leaderboards. I'd like to see the high scores on the xbox, ps3, and wii, however I don't own any of those consoles, so i'm stumped..

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 * Sorry, can't reliably help you with that. (Since an N7 HQ account is linked to a specific gamertag, I'd say no.) — Elseweyr (talk) 17:36, September 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * You can see the leaderboards of all platform via the button on the right side (top) of the N7HQ page--DeldiRe (talk) 18:28, September 10, 2013 (UTC)