User talk:Elseweyr

C-Sec
Well if you deleted the cattegory i cannot add a link to it :-) I only put the cattegory to have a link i wanted to remove it after i had the link. I was already discussing about adding "user" cattegory on the pages for vehicles and weapons?Masterus1 (talk) 23:38, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

Please don't re-add it. Categories aren't usually added unless they can have a good number of articles within them. Lksdjf (talk) 23:39, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

Why don't you want to add the equipment? There are many way we can do it http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Citadel_Security_Services
 * a link to a page as on wikipedia
 * putting "C-sec equipment" cattegory (with skycar,m8 avenger,kodiak shuttle,shotguns,...) instead of "C-sec" which is vague and regroup too many article.
 * adding "users" paragraph on the vehicle/weapon pages as on wikipedia Masterus1 (talk) 23:46, January 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm asking you not to do it because there aren't enough articles to add to it that could justify its existence. Everything that could be added to C-Sec equipment could be added to C-Sec with no major disruptions.  Additionally, categorizing tends to be very broad.


 * The Avenger, while used by Alliance soldiers and C-Sec officers, isn't classified as either C-Sec or Alliance. I can name a few reasons why this isn't so:


 * It is a very popular model of assault rifle that is used by multiple species
 * It is produced by a volus company
 * It is not exclusive to either C-Sec or the Alliance


 * Note how the N7 weapons ARE classified as belonging to the Systems Alliance. This is because N7 is a uniquely human concept that aliens are excluded from. Lksdjf (talk) 23:54, January 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * (Edit conflict) There are only 11 pages even in the main C-Sec category, so having a separate branch for a handful of "C-Sec equipment" articles is not really justified. And Wikipedia's way to present and organise content still doesn't automatically have any bearing on how this wiki does it.


 * Also, please note that category pages are linked to like this:  Category:C-Sec . Leaving out the initial colon places the page itself in the category, and leaving out Category simply creates a link to a page with that name. Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) 23:59, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

Miranda Lawson page
I noticed that on the Miranda Lawson page you reverted a change. The change was making the word "meet" to "meeting". You reverted it back to meet. This is incorrect.

Meet

noun an assembly, as of persons and hounds for a hunt or swimmers or runners for a race or series of races: a track meet. 24. those assembled. 25. the place of such an assembling.

assembly noun 1. an assembling or coming together of a number of persons, usually for a particular purpose: The principal will speak to all the students at Friday's assembly. 2. a group of persons gathered together, usually for a particular purpose, whether religious, political, educational, or social.

Shepard is meeting a single person. This makes your change inappropriate since this is not an assembly. Meeting is the correct word to use here, not meet. Just thought I would point that out. GrandMoffVixen (talk) 22:53, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

That's quite the extrapolation. So am I to assume that for events in which only two people show up (assuming that attendance is anticipated to be much higher), that the event can no longer be considered a meet? The crux of the definition implies any sort of gathering, and is not intended to specify the number of participants.

I am not going to change the word because I prefer "meeting" to "meet", although that does not imply any sort of agreement with your reasoning.

Your change is not any more inappropriate than the original version, but to claim that it is wrong would be incorrect. Lksdjf (talk) 00:05, January 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Using multiple dictionaries is always a good idea when trying to prove some point as to whether the use of a word is correct or incorrect in a particular context. It takes very little searching to find suitable definitions, for example:
 * informal a meeting, typically one with an illicit purpose
 * a meeting, esp a sports meeting
 * I simply undid your change on principal. Since meet is not incorrect, changing it isn't legit unless someone else agrees with your edit. Which is what happened. Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) 00:58, January 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Not sure if we're still discussing or now-all-agreed, but I'll mention my preference for "meeting" in the situation mentioned. Cattlesquat (talk) 02:41, January 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Note that I never said that anyone was wrong. Do not put words in my mouth. I was polite and there is no reason to use an Ad Hominem attack against me merely because I am disagreed with. Next, I am not required to use multiple dictionaries. Also, I am not required to, nor am I inclined to have "someone else agrees with your edit" just to change something. I pointed out why the change was incorrect. Well, the word I used before was "inappropriate". Unless I am in an informal situation I will not use words informally. There are standards of language and just because a word can be used in such a manner does not mean it is acceptable.

This type of conduct remains why I left the wiki in the first place. Draconian attitudes with the "my turf" attitude regardless of this not belonging to any said person. Now I know why I shouldn't have come back. I won't be seeing you again, as I won't put up with this from the likes of misanthropes such as you. GrandMoffVixen (talk) 08:31, January 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * LOL K BYE Lksdjf (talk) 09:54, January 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Note that (1) this trivial matter was settled article-wise long ago, with your edit as the last one; (2) no-one has accused you of saying that anyone is wrong, nor attacked you personally; and (3) since this wiki doesn't acknowledge any particular dictionary as the only valid source, I merely recommended that you make use of multiple ones if you're going to engage in arguments about the meanings of words.


 * Your decision to depart is most lamentable, but if minor disagreements lead you to stir up this kind of drama and call other users "misanthropes," you may need to mature a bit before returning to editing again. Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) 11:08, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry!
Alright, I apologize - it's been years I completely forgot xD

I'm known for my contributions and videos for the Halo wiki, I assumed the policy would be the same for this wiki as well.

--Cameron.Vickers.Vicks007kid (talk) 21:56, January 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's alright, no harm done. It's mostly for canon reasons :) Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 6, 2014, 21:58:17 (UTC)

chatmod request denied
that was a joke. we admins have convened and there were no objections. congratulations and happy modding. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 07:39, January 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Congratulations Else, you deserved it! --DeldiRe (talk) 08:54, January 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Likewise, Del. Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 10, 2014, 09:40:44 (UTC)

Congrats
Well done on becoming Chat Mod my friend. Garhdo (talk) 18:30, January 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you Garhdo! See you around. Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 16, 2014, 18:59:38 (UTC)

Hanar
Why hanar will rule the Galaxy!


 * D': Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 22, 2014, 17:35:54 (UTC)

Helper!!!
Congratulations on Helperhood! Cattlesquat (talk) 17:46, January 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Cattles! I'll celebrate with the fancy version of my sig this once: Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 22, 2014, 17:54:19 (UTC)


 * "contractors and volunteer interns working for Wikia"
 * you get paid? :3 T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 06:48, January 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's like the wiki equivalent of indentured servant Spectre 8D
 * And I wish :< Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 23, 2014, 13:28:09 (UTC)
 * But you won't ;)--DeldiRe (talk) 14:26, January 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * i thought indendured servants helpers had global admin rights (for the moment it means "whacking obvious vandals") T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 08:26, January 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * Just because we have the rights doesn't mean there aren't restrictions and guidelines as to how we're supposed to use them. Their primary purpose is to facilitate helping out communities which are actually in need of help -- we don't meddle in local administration unless asked for or necessary, especially not on wikis where we have no local rights.


 * Since I still edit here actively and plan to keep doing so, I'd initially planned not to touch any additional buttons until as a regular user I reckoned I'd have to call for outside help. Four reverts in quick succession (which I knew to be non-permitted mainly because I know Mass Effect and this wiki) wasn't a situation in which I'd have felt comfortable blocking someone in my capacity as Helper. If in similar cases you'd prefer I take action instead of bother you with it, that's up to you, really. Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 24, 2014, 16:12:05 (UTC)


 * i see. if it's only up to me, sure you go ahead exercise basic countervandalism measures, but of course it's not entirely up to me as we still have spart and trandra on the off chance they're around. this means email correspondence and at the moment i'm too lazy to get the ball rolling. :p T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 16:26, January 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * I should've been clearer: I did mean 'you' as in 'you local admins' ;p As for Spart, I'm sure he's been integral in shaping the site and all, but wikis have no use for inactive b'crats. Just saying c: Elseweyr ( talk | stalk ) January 24, 2014, 16:40:07 (UTC)

Someone shares my thoughts
Do you remember, when I complained about ME3? That's a summary of someone, who shares my thoughts. Enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M-jtGoYX_Q&feature=c4-overview&list=UUKAlGk1z8vZJyKxiq6IlEpg FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 17:25, January 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I sort of agree with everything except 13:00-19:00 (Harbinger and endings), though I can't say it stopped me from enjoying the game. I've only ever played with the EC installed, though, which might be why I was never left with a feeling that nothing I did mattered in the end, or that I'd been "betrayed" and whatnot.


 * Thanks for sharing the vid, anyways (: Elseweyr [ talk | stalk ] January 27, 2014, 22:44:16 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you'd like to read my long rambling on the ending then. :) Niniendowarrior (talk) 00:35, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Purely for entertainment value
Oh, right, we have "in universe" articles too. I always forget about those since I seldom end up in them. Too bad wiki doesn't offer a "oh yeah, you're right" box to check to acknowledge well-reverted edits!

Meanwhile purely for your interest check out the three (not-in-agreement-with-each-other) usage notes here for whence. I can tell you that in "native speak" it's almost always from whence, and especially and specifically in the most common phrase you encounter it in, "go back to from whence you came". I agreed the most with the usage note that mentioned that a certain amount of archaicness-of-speech is implied and intended in the very using of the word at all. In any event, I just shared that since it was all news to me that there was any other usage. As you say the other usage is apparently legitimate even if I wouldn't use it myself. Learn something new every day... Cattlesquat (talk) 22:29, January 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hahah, no problem. In practice, the wiki is far from entirely consistent in that respect.


 * And I was aware of the usage of whence; I admit to sometimes getting a little fervent in defending already correct spellings and structures merely on princip al -le :} Thanks, anyway! Elseweyr [ talk | stalk ] January 31, 2014, 23:11:08 (UTC)


 * And even on principle :P Cattlesquat (talk) 23:27, January 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * It was a test. You passed :3 Elseweyr [ talk | stalk ] January 31, 2014, 23:37:55 (UTC)


 * Then I shall go back to from whence I came! Cattlesquat (talk) 23:59, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

MP Characters
Hi Else, I do like the current template you have done, we are quite close to a final proposal ;). Still, I prefer darkgrey color for the ultra-rare stuff and I would put the race and the class between  for a wiki link which could be useful. Last but not least, are volus no gendered? seems odd!--DeldiRe (talk) 09:21, February 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * I think the whole gender parameter is redundant, since the name itself reveals the character's gender where it has any significance. Same goes for class and even race, really, so maybe we should try to think of other characteristics to add instead?


 * Regarding the colours, in my weapon inventory the ultra-rares look rather black to me (http://puu.sh/6Um25.jpg), but the gold colour could be adjusted to resemble the in-game one more, I suppose (http://puu.sh/6Um4t.jpg). Also, I could make a template draft without the custom CSS classes so there's a version that renders properly to anyone who may wish to view or edit it.


 * On a side note: since you copied all of my CSS, you may have noticed that the wiki's background disappeared in the process. I do this because page loading times; if it was a deliberate move, never mind. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] February 13, 2014, 11:05:46 (UTC)


 * Agree with all your points -> discussions on the talk page of your template. The point to discuss is, as you said, the point over race/gender/class which can be redundant. In fact they are in some cases but are also relevant in other (ea. Phoenix project adept, it's not stated that he is human or a male, cabal vanguard doesn't say that it is a female). However, the class line is always redundant as I said to you ;). Which could find an alternative. I proposed one but you didn't liked it at the time (it was terrible yes I know, but it was a start :D )--DeldiRe (talk) 11:16, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

As I can see that you are busy, I started the discussion about our MP project. Please have a look to my statement and feel free to update/correct/change what I said if you feel that it doesn't reflect your opinion. I tried to be as neutral as possible (I presented the facts and not the minor points where we do not agree at 100%). See you buddy. --DeldiRe (talk) 17:21, February 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * My apologies, monsieur jellyfish; I've had to forcibly abstain from this wiki because MASS EFFECT WIKI + PREPPING FOR EXAMS = MASS EFFECT WIKI . I'll take a look at the project and get back to this as soon as possible, hopefully within a day or two. Thanks for the update. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] February 25, 2014, 21:29:06 (UTC)

Citadel Characters
I made screenshots from my friends computer and I have all initial health points of all DLC charatcers. However the "initial" points are influenced by passive powers automatically used already, when I met them. How can I explain it to Tempo, so he could accept it? File:DLCME3health.png FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 19:40, February 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Drell -- for convenience, I took the freedom to make your file reference a link instead. Although "initial" presumably means the health and shield/barrier values without any boosts gained from power evolutions, for these guys I think the only viable solution is to treat them as the exceptions they are and go with the "Rank 3 values" instead. If you calculate the theoretical initial values for Wrex, for instance, they're not even integers. Coupled with the fact that those values aren't used, it makes little sense to treat any other values than the Rank 3 ones as "initial."


 * I personally think the values seen in your screenshot could be added as such, with a note that these values apply with three points in the respective character's Class Power. I'd suggest you go ahead and create a post about this in the Projects Forum, as it's the easiest way to show what you're trying to achieve, get input and assistance from other users, and adjust your project accordingly. As Temp said, once everything seems to be in order, it can be voted on. Just follow the example of previous and other ongoing projects; if you need help with anything, let me know. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] February 18, 2014, 20:17:09 (UTC)


 * I created the project page as you suggested and I invite for joining the project http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Health_points_of_companions.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 21:01, February 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Great! Just one thing: you already opened voting, but it might be better to wait for a few comments before you do. Since the voting period lasts for seven days, the vote template needs to be added to the project page so it's clear when voting ends. (For example,   if you open it February 20.)  Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] February 18, 2014, 22:03:50 (UTC)

Good for boredom
I found an interesting fanmade ME film, enjoy. I think it's good for boredom. Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NiXVDiKLpE FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 18:20, March 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I generally avoid fan creations and I'm never bored, but I might have a look. Thanks. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] March 1, 2014, 19:02:03 (UTC)

Félicitations
Why didn't you tell me you had reached the 2,000 Edits? Haha. Anywayz, as we agreed:

~Oiseau De Neige~ (talk) 18:06, March 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * You were the one obsessing over it, not me :p Thank you for gracing my talk page with your signature -- it would never have felt complete without it. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] March 3, 2014, 18:34:58 (UTC)

Melee and movement template
Template for melee/movement: --DeldiRe (talk) 22:37, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Light melee icon/light melee name/light melee description (with combo)
 * Heavy melee icon/name/description
 * Dodge icon/name/description
 * Directions of the dodge
 * Can or can't move cover from cover (+ note if needed just like N7 Destroyer)


 * Yes, this is the information we want to include, though I was more interested in formatting ideas. Since we likely want to keep the icons, a mere bullet list wouldn't look good; they'd need to be in their own cell in a table.


 * Melee & movement investigation : regular turians' light melee combo is a 3-punch attack. The only krogan I have is the Warlord Sentinel; could you check the regular krogan? I also don't have any vorcha on PC, so feel free to verify those as well. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] March 5, 2014, 12:52:30 (UTC)

Chat ban
Wrong fully banned i did nothing wrong i just asked a question


 * The others present disagreed. I'm afraid you'll have to sit your ban out, and recommend being less disruptive if you plan to use Wikia chats in the future. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] March 7, 2014, 01:33:37 (UTC)

speshul logs
do helpers have access to wikia's global block logs? i've always been curious if/where they store such records as the red boilerplate notice is only so much informative. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 11:04, March 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, though accounts listed as "Blocked" may also have been disabled, wich is a Staff-only thing. Inquiries can be submitted via the contact form. Elseweyr  [ talk | stalk ] March 8, 2014, 13:34:01 (UTC)

High-five!
Conragts on 2,000 edits!

Now you get a sig :3

 Fear the Darkness (talk)  20:26, March 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, although the only thing a high number of edits indicates is that you've hit "Publish" a lot of times. A bit like the N7 rank in multiplayer, if you will :p


 * Btw: if you like, we could put that timestamp in the black box too. Elseweyr talk &bull; stalk March 10, 2014, 00:35:15 (UTC)