Talk:Collector Base

Squad Selection

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In addition to ship upgrades for the gauntlet run, it seems that more than mere "loyalty" is a factor determining whether or not a squad-mate can fulfill their duties on the last mission.

With full loyalty of the crew: My first attempt sent Garrus into the vents, with Samara leading the second group. Garrus died. May be due to Garrus being a poor choice for that assignment (He doesn't seem as tech savvy as his ME1 portrayal), or Samara being a poor choice for squad leader. Miranda's comments about Samara lead me to think it is the former. Reloaded and sent Legion in the vents with Garrus as squad leader. Miranda less enthusiastic about Garrus. No casulties, but Chambers is not rescued in time (likely because I did a loyalty mission after the attack, before I started the rescue).

Subsequent choices: Samara on the biotic shield. Jacob escorting the crew. Garrus as squad leader again. Legion and Grunt for the final battle. No casulties. So if anyone is looking for a 'safe' setup, this seems to work (although I don't think it matters who you bring to the last battle, so long as they are loyal).

It seems that although the game gives you a many options for each assignment (likely a built in redundancy to deal with deaths on the way in), there are good and bad choices, even with full loyalty.

Confirmed "Good" choices: Vent job: Legion. Squad leader (vent run): Samara, Garrus, Jacob. Biotic shield: SuZe, Samara. Escort: Jacob. Squad leader (swarm run): Garrus.

Confirmed "Bad" choices: Vent job: Garrus. Squad leader (swarm run): Samara. -Ocdscale 00:18, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Attempted a Casual speed run (wanted to play NewGame+ on an Infiltrator, instead of my Vanguard above). Legion without loyalty, dies if sent on the Vent mission. Jacob with loyalty, led the second squad without casualties. Kelly Chambers survives along with Chakwas, (went into the Relay immediately after the attack). Jack with loyalty on the biotic shield, Samara with loyalty leading the squad, Jacob with loyalty escorting the crew. Jack succeeds, Jacob escorts without casualties, Samara dies. Thane and SuZe both with loyalty in the final run, remaining crew without loyalty. Jack falls but is caught. Mordin dies. -Ocdscale 20:12, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

A question remains, why does Mordin die? If I had a loyal squad member capable of organizing the defenders, would he have still died?

Speculation: Assuming a capable squad leader can prevent deaths while you fight the Reaper, a perfect run (no deaths, Chambers survives) could be done with only 4 loyal members. Example: Legion in the vents, Garrus leading. Then Samara holding the shield, Jacob escorting the crew, Garrus leading second squad. Then Legion and Samara in the final run, Garrus staying behind to rally the defense (Jacob is already aboard the ship). I will be starting my NewGame+ now and will attempt this. -Ocdscale 20:26, January 29, 2010 (UTC)