Talk:Mass Effect 2

The 10th
In Mass Effect 2 the player has the opportunity to build a team from 10[2] possible companions, including:

Starting companions:

* Miranda Lawson * Jacob Taylor

Returning from the original Mass Effect:

* Tali'Zorah nar Rayya * Garrus Vakarian[3]

Recruitable:

* Thane Krios * Grunt * Subject Zero * Mordin Solus * Samara


 * I only count 9. Whos the last person? 24.87.4.53 04:51, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Many think it's Legion, the only known "evolved" geth, though it's unconfirmed.--Matt xMan 05:05, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

You only count 9 because there has only been 9 revealed. Get some patience and wait for the tenth to be revealed. --Revan&#39;s Exile 05:50, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... how 'bout they don't get some patience? It was a valid question, and one hardly deserving of being answered in that manner. SpartHawg948 05:56, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * +10 Paragon

Technically only 8 have been revealed, Garrus is based on a collection of facts that together point to Garrus being recruitable, not an official reveal. If you asked BioWare they'd deny it. My thinking is that 9 & 10 are being kept secret until the game comes out. JakePT 07:12, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Garrus is recruitable http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/mass-effect-2/achievements/ look at the archangel achievement. Ejd37 20:15, January 5, (UTC)


 * Which Archangel achievement? The one we've been using as a source to confirm that Garrus is recruitable in ME2 for a few weeks now? Seen it, and links to it are all over the site. :P SpartHawg948 20:42, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry my bad. Ejd37 20:55, January 5, (UTC)


 * Well thanks for the info guys, I really hope the 9th and 10th character arent either Legion or Garrus. On my save, Ashley died and I dont wanna have to choose between Samara or Subject Zero for a new romance sub-plot lol 24.87.4.53 21:03, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey guys, more questions from me again. Why is the Recruitables Trailer called "The Dirty Dozen"? Does this imply that there are 2 more guys we dont know about?
 * consonance: Dirty Dozen sounds better than Dirty Ten --MPS Biotic 20:24, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Would really be something if the title was the Magnificent Seven, much like the movie, clicks instantly, even though there will be more than 7 squadmates to choose from.H-Man Havoc 03:22, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * and Dirty Dozen could also refer to Joker and Shepard MPS Biotic 14:29, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

"Dirty Dozen" is to be taken literally. Spoilers on the link: http://i.imgur.com/4Wg0q.png 24.87.4.53 14:58, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Cerberus Card
Browsing the gamefaqs boards, stumbled upon this info...

"http://meforums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=715891&forum=144&sp=0

This thread confirms it. Chris Priestly semi-confirms at the bottom of page 1 and then puts it beyond doubt at the bottom of page 3. Seem that the network card is a day-one DLC to cut out piracy and the used games market, like in Dragon Age, as second-hand copies won't have it and pirates won't get the code. This seems to be a tactic the industry is growing fond of, for the better in my opinion.

Sorry if already posted."

The forum post deals with Australia, but Chris has stated on page 8 of the next forum post I link to further down that ALL will have the card.

Also I'm currently still searching for proof, but apparently EA might have said somewhere that new purchasers will have access to an 11th recruit from the Cerberus Card starting Day One. We all know that at some point we are supposed to (hopefully) get downloadable characters anyway. This is hardly confirmation - http://meforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=715953&forum=144 but it's all I have at this point.--Xaero Dumort 20:44, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like it might be true with this Zaeed Messani guy. but the ref link on his page goes to 404.--Xaero Dumort 20:14, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK Cerberus Network info is a-go! http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/21907/Mass-Effect-2s-Cerberus-Network-Revealed--Xaero Dumort 18:22, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Technical Help.
Hello there, I'm not exactly sure where to put this but it has directly implications with ME2.

The computer I play my video games on, for some reason, cannot connect to the internet. This isn't because I don't have a web browser or no Ethernet cable plugged in, We (my family and I) have no clue as to why. (we can ping the internet with the command prompt but not with any applications.

Now this wouldn't be a problem if not for the fact that EA games doesn't to my knowledge provide support for people in my position, and when I got ME1 I sent them an E-mail asking for help and they responded along the lines of "You need Internet to register play Mass Effect"

So now I'm asking is does EA provide support for people in my predicament and what should I do when Mass Effect 2 comes out?

PS I have the right PC specs to play ME1&2 --MPS Biotic 21:59, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

My only suggestion is check your firewall settings. I doubt that is the problem, but hey, it might work. --Xaero Dumort 19:52, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Action Figures. ACTION FIGURES!
http://kotaku.com/5442335/mass-effect-2s-action-figures-revealed That is all. --Xaero Dumort 19:52, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Shepard's face needs a pinch more badass and a dash of scowl. 24.87.4.53 02:45, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

True dat, don't really like how it looks. Better have a removable helmet.--Xaero Dumort 02:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Soundtrack - Songs for Teammates.
http://www.amazon.com/Mass-Effect-2-Explicit/dp/B0031CSCS6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1263179693&sr=8-1
 * Each recruitable character has an obviously listed song (take the Legion one for however you will at this point) except for SuZe, but there is one for someone named Jack. Maybe SuZe's real name is Jacqueline? Or maybe there is more to her than most women if you catch my drift.--Xaero Dumort 03:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's been revealed that SuZe = Jack. --Revan&#39;s Exile 03:41, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Where? JakePT 03:43, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you had been keeping up with the videos or the official forums you would know. --Revan&#39;s Exile 03:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have, and nowhere has it been confirmed that Subject Zero is 'Jack'. JakePT 04:14, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously you haven't. It's not my job to prove it to you, I assume you have enough intelligence to use the search function at the forums, use it. --Revan&#39;s Exile 05:04, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just did, BioWare has not confirmed it, and the only evidence in favour of it is an IMDB listing, and those are notoriously unreliable. The listing has two people playing Aria for christ's sake. JakePT 05:36, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't give a rat's rear what IMDB says. You know those videos Bioware puts out either for a trailer or to use in interviews? That is the confirmation. Find the information, just takes the oh so simple use of the search function. Took me five seconds to get the information, five seconds to find the correct video on YouTube, and then just had to wait till it loaded. Admit you can't do it and I will link you to exactly when it pops up on screen (actually a few seconds before hand, you will need to full screen the video to read) of course from there you have to know certain facts. That is Purgatory, Shepard is there to pick up SuZe and only SuZe, and then you need to be able to add that information to the journal update information. --Revan&#39;s Exile 05:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK... two things. 1) You can't just say "It's been revealed that SuZe = Jack.", then when someone questions it, say "If you had been keeping up with the videos or the official forums you would know." If you want anyone to take anything you say as credible and worth a d***, you need to cite a source, not just say, "it's been shown, it's not my job to prove it to you". And 2) Watch the attitude, Revan&#39;s Exile. You've been warned in the past to not take that sort of tone with people, and saying things such as "I assume you have enough intelligence to use the search function at the forums" is TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR. As you have been cautioned in the past, I'll not say this again. If I see this sort of language again towards other users, I'll have no choice but to act on it. SpartHawg948 05:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Revan don't come onto the wiki spouting off things that you claim are facts if you won't back them up. Do not assume people are going to believe you. The only new vid I have found of SuZe is the commercial that takes a clip for the videos that they have been posting of characters that are "interviews". Don't come on here with your attitude and not back up what you say. For you Jake I have managed to find SPECULATION (regardless of how much it makes sense, or is easily connected facts like Legion, is SPECULATION until confirmed) to show SuZe is really named Jack, however whether or not she is a transsexual or something different such as brain transfer or a shortening of a female name to a more "butch" version or even a speculated homage to Pitch Black is completely unclear. http://meforums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=714680&forum=144&sp=0 Don't forget that is a community where we should be helping each other and we would rather you be a good part of it or not bother to be around at all. Also a wiki is a place for information to be found as supplied by us for us, if you don't want to do that, then don't sling insults or be rude to those who are having trouble finding that information.--Xaero Dumort 05:56, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I source for the article not the talk pages because talk pages are for talking not recording factual information. I can back up what I say, I have the video fully loaded on one of my other tabs with a link that takes you within seconds just before the proof. Since this is a talk page I don't have to paste the link. --Revan&#39;s Exile 06:06, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * You don't HAVE TO, but generally people who do have evidence to back their claims aren't reluctant to share it when someone else asks them to do so. When someone DOES claim to have evidence but steadfastly refuses to produce it, it does look mighty suspicious. If you have the link, why not just post it and put this matter to rest? SpartHawg948 06:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * He asked using one word, he wasted my time to check on an update for one word. You want something from me you use a complete sentence with a subject, verb, the whole shebang, not a single word. Be lazy you don't get what you want from me. Then he goes and blasphemes just making it worst. --Revan&#39;s Exile 06:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * He who? I didn't ask using just one word: "If you have the link, why not just post it and put this matter to rest?" That was 16 words. As for subject, verb, and "the whole shebang" (which is a term I've never seen in any discussions of grammar), while I have been told I have a knack for English composition, I never was big on the whole structural side of it. And no idea what "blasphemes" meant. Blasphemy is speaking ill of God or something similarly sacred, and I didn't see any of that. Regardless, (asking for a second time) if you have a source, why not just produce it? SpartHawg948 06:27, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The he I refer to is JakePT. Jake also said and I quote "christ's sake." Not only did he blaspheme he could not even bother to capitalize the name of the man who died for everyone's sins. --Revan&#39;s Exile 06:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I've found the video (it would have been easier if you weren't so damn vague), you have a good eye, but a bad attitude. Your response to my question of "Where?" should have simply been "In the Purgatory video there is a pop up that refers to her as Jack". You didn't need to be a dick about it and tell me I should have known. There was just no reason for it and we could have avoided all this. I see no reason why you couldn't just answer my question, all I wanted to know was how you knew that.

Also, I do keep a pretty close eye on the forums and new videos etc. but I tend to avoid Subject Zero threads because they're always full of whingers crying "RUINED!" and I obviously never caught the purgatory one in a high enough resolution to read the text.

Even still, I wouldn't call this 'confirmation'.

PS: Blasphemes? Oh boy...JakePT 06:30, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Your response to my statement should have been a complete sentence. I see no reason (other than pure laziness) why you couldn't be bothered to type more than five characters and click the signature button. If you don't want the bad attitude don't be lazy.

I knew you could find the video if you wanted to find it.

If the Journal updating your quest to obtain SuZe calling her Jack isn't confirmation nobody calling Shepard by his/her name is confirmation that his/her name is Shepard. --Revan&#39;s Exile 06:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * There are any number of reasons other than laziness. Plenty of people (myself included) don't always see the need to write complete sentences when a single word can get the point across just as efficiently (well, just as efficiently unless the other party insists on making an issue of it. I see no reason (other than pure rudeness) why this couldn't have been resolved more civilly, without automatically assuming that someone who formats a request in a way that isn't pleasing to you must be lazy. SpartHawg948 06:51, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

He wasn't being lazy. Having a bad attitude isn't your problem, being a selfish lout with no people skills who refuses to be decent is. This isn't a place for grammatical lessons, you want to teach sentence structure, tutor children in the real world. You want to talk about blasphemy, teach Sunday school, though if you did either of those things, I would weep for those learning from you. Just stay away from here, you are obviously someone who cares not for kindness or helping those around you and I would request that you leave had I any inclination from your behavior that you would be capable of doing so and not acting as an internet troll.--Xaero Dumort 06:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do just want to interject that, right or wrong, it seems to be getting a bit heated in here, so maybe all of us (and I do include myself...) need to dial it back a little bit and not get too caught up in personal disputes. This is why the language policy exists, as things can get a little tense sometimes. As my hero Frank Costanza says, SERENITY NOW!!! SpartHawg948 07:00, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

That it does, I shall take my leave of this and will say in finality I wish that this had been something that had just been talked about and enjoyed as I thought it was cool each character was getting a theme.--Xaero Dumort 07:02, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The pop up says to go to outprocessing where the warden's men have 'Jack', Cho also says that you're there to pick up Subject Zero. It's pretty obvious that Jack is referring to Subject Zero, but the possibility remains that Jack is someone else involved in the process. Though that possibility is extremely unlikely, it does remain. We held off adding Garrus as an ME2 squadmember for a long time despite mounting evidence because until the achievements leak we didn't have that final piece. It's a similar situation here, all signs point to her being Jack, but we haven't got all the information we need to 100% confirm it. We may have 90%, but that's not quite enough to call it 'confirmed'.

On my one word reply, sorry I offended you, but I felt that anything else would have just been unnecessary fluff. Although I don't see how it is at all different to you only posting "It's been confirmed" without any more information.

PS: It is pretty cool each character gets a theme, and they do sound like they match up quite a bit with their personalities, Mordin and Samara in particular.JakePT 07:13, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Guides
Given all the new modifications to the gameplay and the real risk of having Shepard die without knowing the decisions made, I sure hope a guide book is released on Day 1 of release so that myself (and I'm sure others would do the same) could venture into the game as much as possible.... I don't think they (Bioware) released a physical guide for ME1, but for the above, one's needed for ME2. Who else thinks so? H-Man Havoc 12:27, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * There was an official Prima game guide for Mass Effect, I'm fairly certain there will be one for ME2 as well. SpartHawg948 18:01, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed there is, I have both a regular and hard cover special edition pre-ordered through Amazon.--Xaero Dumort 18:41, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully Gamestop sells the hardcover edition of the ME2 guide, and yes, now I remember a hardcover edition of the 1st game that used to be at Blockbusters for a while. H-Man Havoc 20:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * As of earlier tonight we still had the hardcover for pre-order.--Xaero Dumort 04:55, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * How much is it selling for? $30 CAD? H-Man Havoc 04:58, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * $30USD not sure about the exchange rate.--Xaero Dumort 06:31, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Right now, $1 CAD is worth around 95 cents USD, give or take two cents each way. H-Man Havoc 00:35, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it really that close these days? Jeez.--Xaero Dumort 08:21, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Bad U.S. dollar increases the CAD, remember in Jan. 2008, $1 CAD used to be as high as $1.10 USD H-Man Havoc 13:03, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I miss the days before idiots elected Bush.*Edit: Please accept my apologies to anyone who may have been offended by my carelessness*--Xaero Dumort 07:38, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well actually, the year after Bush was reelected, in 2005, $1 CAD was worth about 75 cents USD. H-Man Havoc 18:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, can we please avoid political statements like that? I, for one, don't like being called an idiot. Thanks, SpartHawg948 20:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, I should have thought more about what I was saying. I'm not going to get into anything political here, and you do have my apologies for what may have seemed like an attack on you and your beliefs. I would like to say that the statement stems from a belief that the whole system is just terrible and hasn't been good for decades and is just getting worse.--Xaero Dumort 22:12, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I know it wasn't intended to insult anybody, but it would be greatly appreciated if statements like that can be left off article talk pages. I'd just like to keep things off these pages that can very easily be taken as insults against large groups of people, such as derogatory statements about people who vote for certain politicians you may not like. I have plenty of opinions about things like that, and about the current system, but try to follow the rule that you don't discuss religion or politics in polite conversation (although, in this context, discussions of in-game religion and politics are, of course, ok!) SpartHawg948 00:11, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Will do!--Xaero Dumort 00:55, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Teammates and Armor
The more I see, the more... obvious I guess it becomes, that teammates don't have armor. Is anyone else disappointed? It looks silly to have all the enemies and Shepard in armor but not squad members. My only hope is that just for demo and video purposes they don't put the members in armor just to show them off. My only reasoning being that only humans and Liara had default clothing that wasn't armor, and Tali doesn't count because she needs it to live. I just don't like the idea of them running around without armor, and the weapon locker in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFajRU4xAVI only showed changing Shepard's weapons... :( Can anyone ease my fears?--Xaero Dumort 07:10, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're S.O.L. "We do not have control over squadmates' armor. They upgrade themselves as you level up." http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd78xshh_79hdw6ksgp Matt 2108 07:22, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think I can handle that. What I can't handle is me running around looking like a BAMF and SuZe still wearing a strip of leather. I'm not a fan of how she looks. Or Samara keeping her tata's out while I still hafta look at her butter face. Or watching as Miranda or Thane take bullets to the chest and the only thing stopping it is a shirt. I just cannot abide by that.--Xaero Dumort 07:37, January 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Reminds me of a parody inspiration poster I saw a while back: ARMOUR CLASS - The less you wear, the higher it is. Think that about sums up SuZe and Samara :PPhylarion 21:11, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * But those three are BIOTIC users. You don't see Ashley, Tali or even Liara wear no armor in battle, because the 1st two aren't biotics and Liara, although she is, she's an Asari Scientist. H-Man Havoc 18:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Does this mean that we don't have planets with no breathable atmosphere and/or harsh weather to visit ? Because I don't see SuZe or Thane on a Mars-Style Environement with their current "Leather Armor" :/ -Mobius- (Sorry for my english I'm french)
 * I assume there are those types of planets in the game, and naturally they'll be wearing helmets and other protection. H-Man Havoc 16:44, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * It also depends on how they handle things with the new Hammerhead, quite possible on harsh environments you are only going to locations to kill and scout, maybe driving from garage to garage with no leaving the vehicle.--Xaero Dumort 18:23, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Inside Xbox OXM vid on ME2
In the vid pretty sure Dr. Ray Muzyka confirmed official new game plus with bonus talent unlocking, I have to watch again, but I think that's what he was referencing as it came after talking about ME loading and playing after the "end" of ME2 for DLC options. I'll check it out soon again, other wise, just watch the vid! It's always good just to watch new ME stuff lol.

Ok he says "you can also import your character back in and depending on how many times you do that you get new bonus abilities." So it probably references loading an ME save but he talks about this in the same explanation as talking about continuing playing after the end in order to enjoy P(eriodic)DLC.--Xaero Dumort 22:37, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

You should site the source for future reference. H-Man Havoc 00:33, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I assumed everyone understood those videos are on the Xbox dashboard. I've never seen (or to be honest looked) anywhere else for them. I didn't think I had to say more beyond, Inside Xbox.--Xaero Dumort 18:25, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Pre-order items?
Does anyone know how exactly the preorder bonus items will be tied to the game?

I tend to be a terrible completionist with stuff I like, and I'm perfectly willing to preorder an extra PC copy from gamestop if I can somehow attach the gun and armor to the steam copy I've already paid for.

Thmanwithnoname 23:29, January 17, 2010 (UTC)thmanwithnoname
 * It all works through an in-game "store" called the Cerberus Network, so codes for the PC and such will redeem through that, regardless of where you bought the game.--Xaero Dumort 18:26, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

How does that work then? Does that mean someone who got all the codes VIA internet can just punch em all in and recieve the exclusive stuff? 24.87.4.53 03:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's something like what they did with Dragon Age. No matter what version you got, you had a normal CD key to associate with your EA/Bioware account, and then if you had bonus content from preorder or delux versions, you got another CD key to unlock that content. That second key was single use only, and is permantly attached to the account you activate it under. Thmanwithnoname 20:42, January 18, 2010 (UTC)thmanwithnoname

Music
Any info on who's making the score on ME2? -Supakillaii 14:31, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, Jack Wall. Full info: Mass Effect 2 Original Videogame Score. JakePT 18:26, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Effects of choice in story of ME1?
I swear I saw somewhere how certain choices in ME1 will effect parts of ME2; things like the treatment of conrad, the rachni queen, etc. What happened to this? A search for Conrad shows it as being on the ME2 page, but it's gone. Was it deleted? If so, why? It wasn't too spoilerish, as it mostly dealt with parts from the first game and not the second. If it wasn't removed, where can it be found? 71.161.72.181 22:37, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Drop in a line to User:JakePT as he's the one who deleted the info. H-Man Havoc 22:48, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you do "drop in a line" please keep it civil though. JakePT stated his reasons for deleting, and I completely agree. That section was getting unnecessarily long. It had already been noted that decisions from ME would carry over, a laundry list of choices wasn't really necessary, especially in light of the fact that in 7 days it would be obsolete and slated for deletion anyways. SpartHawg948 22:58, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I was looking for the same thing. Why not just split it off into its own page then? Seems stupid to delete the whole thing, especially when it's information a lot of people would probably be interested in. --WarlockSoL 16:17, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, and I know I've said this before: In 6 days ME2 will come out. At that time we will begin purging obsolete pre-release info from the site, same as we did a couple years ago with the pre-release info about ME. One of the things that would be deleted would be this "effects of choice in ME story" thing, since having the game out would render it pretty needless. Why create a separate page that's only going to exist for 6 days? Is it really too much to ask that people wait 6 days and find it out for themselves? SpartHawg948 19:50, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree there. I mean, why have any of the walkthroughs/guides if the players can find out for themselves? If anything, I'd expect at some point to see a large list of this sort - choices and what they effect in ME2 (and eventually ME3). Seems like the perfect candidate for a wiki article in my opinion. But that's me. --WarlockSoL 01:28, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Comparing a game walkthrough with info about a forthcoming game is hardly valid. Matter of fact, now that the two subjects converge in my head, if people really really must have this info, why note put it in the walkthroughs as footnotes? (ie for the ME walkthrough, the bit of plot, then *this decision carries over into ME2, and for ME2, the info then *dependent on choices from ME). But it doesn't need it's own article any more than any of the other pre-release info stuff for this or the previous game. SpartHawg948 06:36, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

mass effect 2 wiki
Did you guys know mass effect 2 has its own wiki? Hm...... It's got like 3 articles. I wonder if pointless wikis are an issue on wikia. 209.208.106.244 22:39, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Day 1 DLC
Pardon me, but I haven't had much experience with DLCs or just buying Xbox games in general (just got my first 360). When EA referred to their day-1 DLC, which they said would be free, does that mean day 1 literally or metaphorically? --6:06 AM, January 20th, 2010 (EST)
 * Not sure if there's any way other than literally to take it. How exactly would they mean "Day 1 DLC" metaphorically? (not trying to be rude or snarky there, just genuinely curious) Regardless, there has been no indication that day one means anything other than day one. SpartHawg948 11:09, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think what he means is does the DLC only last one day (being Day-1), or can you download it after the release day? Jake200493 11:20, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, seeing as DLC that is only available for one day and one day only is pretty much unprecedented in the history of video games, and seeing as the term Day One is a term referring to the first day, whereas one-day-only would be more appropriate for a one-day-only offer, and given that BioWare has said that the DLC will be available from day one while saying nothing of it being for one day only, I'm going to say Day one means available from day one, not "available for one day only". SpartHawg948 11:25, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Day 1 means the Day 1, not 1 Day. If you buy the game on day 1, and probably for some time after, you get free access to the DLC using the Cerberus Network Card that comes with early copies of the game. Day 1 is referring to the fact that it's available on Day 1. JakePT 11:28, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

For me Day One is tomorow, do you think the Cerberus Network will be available on this thursday ? Cyphius 11:54, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's the 26th. JakePT 12:51, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * So even if a buy the game tomorrow I will not be able to download the free DLC until the 26th ? That's disapointing :/ Cyphius 12:53, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems reasonable that a company would not allow DLC to be accessed before the game is released. Twilsemail 20:01, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is the big thing - the Day 1 DLC is available to people who have codes. People who buy the game used... won't have the codes. It's an attempt to cut out the used game market, which severely hurts publisher profits as they see none of that money. So pretty much, if you get the game new you get the Hammerhead and (that one guy) and some other stuff, whereas if you get it used, you get none of that. Not a fan of slicing stuff out of the game for that, but the reasoning behind it is sound (which I admit, even though I work at a used video game store). Boter 17:31, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think there will be an experation date on the network card like "Must activate by this time" because the CPU i play my games on can't connect to the interweb

I can tell you know all they mean by "day one" dlc is that there will be content availible on day one, they did this with DAO and was still available after the games release date.

as for experation date (again drawing from dao) it will probably be a set date for all codes and not individuals.

-71.221.35.25 20:29, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Hammerhead DLC
Does anyone know about the rumored DLC with a new vehicle and missions? (Frosted Vert 16:53, January 21, 2010 (UTC))
 * The search bar may come in handy here : ) The Hammerhead article contains all we really know this far; not many details have been released yet. --Tullis 16:55, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Protected Page
So, I don't like to do this, but it seems this page has been pretty contentious lately. Lots of edit warring, major spoilers posted pre-release despite our request that this not happen, vandalism, all sorts of good stuff. So, in response to a request I received the page has been protected for two days (or, in other words, till the 26th, when ME2 releases). If for any reason you disagree with this decision, this is the place to make your feelings known, and while I may have something of a (not entirely undeserved) reputation as a jerk-face, I will take all comments on the subject seriously, and take them into consideration. I have informed another of the site's admins of this decision, and on the off chance that I was acting rashly when I did this, that she should feel free to undo the protection if she doesn't agree with it. So again, this is just till M2 comes out in two days, and if anyone has questions/comments/criticisms (or as Michael Scott would say, 'constructive compliments'), let us know! SpartHawg948 22:39, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

This page may need another protect, just look at the history and you'll see what I mean. : /--WouldYouKindly 15:26, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

walkthrough
any idea how long it would take before a walkthrough gets online? (exspecialy for the ending (mission))

just curious (i know my english isnt good)

(is this the right place for this?)

-muisje33

Out now
I just bought it at game- mania and it's the 26th

But I live in Holland EUROPE which says 28

New Game+
Level and weapons are imported. You also start with bonus resources (including 50k Element Zero...). Most interestingly, you also seem to retain the additional weapons training you received in your first run through. I suspect we'll see people do multiple runs to get full weapons training for their character (compare with ME1 getting free Charm/Intimidate points). -Ocdscale 01:21, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep I was thinking about doing runs to get those other weapons trainings. TacCloak with Shotgun? Please and thank you.--Xaero Dumort 08:53, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * And it doesn't work that way. :(. Oh well.--Xaero Dumort 10:48, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Light Machine Guns
The "Light Machine Gun" is not a weapon type, but rather an assault rifle granted from Advanced weapon training.

Healing system
I do not think the following assertion is entirely correct:

A modified health system. Medi-gel has been removed from use, now only serving the purpose of reviving dead teammates. Instead the player's Health and Shields now regenerate slowly when the player is not taking damage.[15]

First thing, the codex specifies that Medi-Gel is used by the new self-healing system (see "Body Armor"), the suit microframe computers managing distribution of small quantities of Medi-Gel where appropriate.

Also, Unity requires Medi-gel to work, so it is far from "removed from use".

Also from my game experience, using Unity, even though no squad member is down, speeds up the healing process. It might be related to the "Trauma module" upgrade, but I am not sure... /Celorilm


 * Unity heals party members, and revives them if they are dead. It uses one medigel per use. This is regardless of any upgrades or the like. And you are also correct about the armor. However, it is not used as regularly as in the first game where a specialization existed for it.
 * My point was just to alert you (as I did not want to change such a page by myself, at least not before discussing it) that this assertion, as it is, was quite incorrect (which is perfectly understandable as it appears to have been written pre-release) and likely required rewriting.


 * I would propose, based on your confirmation to rewrite it as follow:


 * A modified health system. Medi-gel is no longer used in the exact same way. A new self-healing system (see Codex "Body Armor" entry), managed by your armor suit microframe computers, automatically uses small quantities of it when required in order to slowly regenerate your squad members Health and Shields, as long as they do not take damage. Massive doses (corresponding to the complete Medi-Gel units you can hold - up to 8) can be injected through the new Unity power, serving the purpose of quick healing/reviving squadmates.


 * What do you think? Celorilm 09:18, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Proposed change implemented, as no objection noted over more than 24 hours Celorilm 10:59, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Plot Question.
How come Wikipedia has a full, comprehensive, and accurate plot summary, but the MASS EFFECT WIKI does not?


 * Have you had a look at the Mass Effect 2 Guide page? I would say it is quite complete and accurate.


 * Also, even though we are still working on it, and the individual mission pages obviously require more work, I would say that the Mass Effect 2 section of the Missions page is improving day by day and already covers most of the plot.


 * Celorilm 09:28, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Miranda and Jacob are "special"
So, I am told, Commander Shepard gets 51 points and the squad mates each get 29 points. Well, that's wrong on two counts: Miranda and Jacob. They each get 30 points. Don't you just love it when you have something hanging and you don't know quite what to do with it? Well, that's the position I am in. I have an extra point that I can't put anywhere. For instance, Miranda has 6 in Overload, 3 in Warp, 10 in Cerberus Officer, and 10 in Slam. The remaining slots require 3 or 4 points. What the bloody hell am I supposed to do with that 1 point?Throwback 14:04, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the math, it's there if you want to to 10, 10, 10 and ignore one of their skills completely. Boter 16:07, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comprehensive DLC Page Needed
If you search "DLC", it takes you to a list page with related articles. Excuse me? ME had 2 pieces of DLC, but ME2 is shaping up to have quite a bit more. A page with summaries, prices, and links to the main articles would be excellent. Upcoming content could also be included. Unless I'm just compleletly missing a DLC hubpage. --174.103.224.13 23:25, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * At the moment there is a placeholder, Downloadable Content, which is currently just a redirect to Category:DLC. This could be expanded upon, if someone had the energy.  There is also Downloadable Content Guides, of course.  --DRY 23:42, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Infininte Squad Points Section
Whoever wrote the Infinite Squad Point section says it is not possible, requires a massive amount of Eezo, and won't work on the Squad Mates. He/she is true if you do it that way, but there is a better way, at least on the 360.

Have at least 10 Squad Points for any character. Fill up the first three bars for any power then when you get to the fourth press X & A at the same time, it allows you to specialize your power plus gives you the ten points back.

However you want to incorporate that good luck. --Revan&#39;s Exile 14:47, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

ME1's "canon" ending
As I imported a ME1 save, I'm curious how ME2 plays out if you didn't do so. My wife just made a new, from-scratch ME2 game, and so far it looks like the canon ME1 ending was the Council being obliterated, if nothing else. Shouldn't this article (or another one) detail such things? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's curious. :) RobertM525 08:25, March 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * There is no canon ending, just the ending that you make. the ending you get is the bare bones playthorugh of the game, the obvious morally neutral ground choice taken even time a situation needs to be resolved. ralok 14:56, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well, there is a canon ending to ME1 insofar as if you didn't choose anything (because you didn't play ME1 or are making a game that isn't carrying over from ME1), something happened before ME2. Was the Council saved? Did Wrex die on Vermine? Who died, Kaidan or Ashley? Who became the Human leader of the Council? And so forth. I don't believe those actions are randomized at every playthrough nor dependent upon actions you take in ME2. Thus, I assume there is a quasi-canon, so to speak, way the events of ME1 played out. And thus, I think whatever that is, it should be somewhere on this Wiki. In this article or the one for ME1. RobertM525 06:54, March 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, as long as you don't call it the canon ending. It's only a morally neutral version of the game. It could be written that starting a new game without importing will mean that A, B, & C happens. It would be a nice informative "head's up" for anyone who wishes to start a new game. As long as it's clear that it's not canon.--Effectofthemassvariety 07:27, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's weird to call it morally neutral because most of the decisions are A or B decisions not A, B, or C decisions (where A = good, C = bad, and B = neutral). I called it "canon" because if Mass Effect were novelized I would assume that whatever Bioware used for ME1's storyline for those playing ME2 without a ME1 save, that would be what they'd use. But I don't have "canon-phobia," nor some kind of sentimental attachment to the way ME plays out for me relative to others. :) RobertM525 09:40, March 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * You could call it "default ending" and everyone would be happy...

DrPepper Promotional Items
It seems it is no longer possible to reclaim the Sentry Interface, only Umbra Visor and Recon Hood are available. Am I doing something wrong or are they "out of stock" at this point?

Infinite Squad Points Glitch section
The Infinite Squad Points Glitch section looks misplaced to me, as it's in the middle of a section on changes from Mass Effect. Maybe it should be removed from this article and shifted to the Powers article (or a Squad Points article if one is ever written)? --Confab 22:53, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Upcoming DLC: Overlord in June
http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/news/mass-effect-2-overlord-dlc.html Kd82 11:33, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Glitch
Should the mention of the Infinite Squad Points glitch even be mentioned in the article? It's kinda weird for the page of a game showing a glitch that wasn't even intended by the developers, and is basically cheating. The Yoshiman 97 01:06, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it should be because until May 17, 2010, it was a part of the game. Then they removed it for the reasons I quoted. It should still be there because we have two whole pages devoted to hacks and cheats for the PC version. Lancer1289 01:11, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here are the pages by the way, and there are three of them, just for reference. Mass Effect: PC Cheats and PC Tweaks. Mass Effect 2: PC Tweaks (Mass Effect 2). Lancer1289 01:15, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I would also be inclined to say yes. I know that the glitch was unintentional, and you are correct, it was essentially cheating. But the fact remains that it was a part of the game, intentional or not. As such, it should be documented. In a way, it's the same basic principle as keeping articles on cut content (such as the Caleston article which was retained after ME was released and Caleston, featured prominently in the advertising and pre-release videos, was not in the final game). It's relevant in a historical sense. SpartHawg948 04:25, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Given that it is no longer possible to do this and that it only refers to a glitch on one of the platforms, it does not belong in the general article about the game. Exploits and cheats are not encyclopedic and thus not relevant to the general article, and this information is out-of-date and specific to only one incarnation of the game.  Given that there are articles about how to cheat on the PC version of the game, I created the page Xbox Cheats and moved it there.  Claiming a "majority" of people think so when only two contributors voiced their approval of it (around the time when it was still possible to do) is incorrect: I see two people saying it should be included and now three people saying it shouldn't be.  If a true majority exists, the changes can be reverted.  --17:53, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * And when was a split proposed because there was no discussion on this and discussions are supposed to take place before action is taken. As such I have reverted the edits and posted the delete tag on the completely reduntant page. Also it should be preserved as that is the precedent set by articles like Mass Effect 2 Cut Content and Caleston. Lancer1289 18:34, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Who is the third person objecting to it being in the article? Is this objection somewhere else? The reason I ask is because your comments make it sound like the clear-cut opinion in this thread is 3-2 in favor of removing the glitch. But it isn't. It's now 2-2. The Yoshiman 97 and yourself against keeping, myself and Lancer for. Unless I'm missing someone... SpartHawg948 20:06, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Talk:Mass Effect 2 -- no one responded to this contributor. At the very, very least it should be moved to somewhere else within the article, perhaps a section on exploits or cheats.  Its current placement is in the middle of gameplay changes, which is inappropriate (since exploits are not considered an intentional change and are often patched to prevent players from using (as this one was)).  I would argue that 1) it does not belong in the article at all, since no other mentions of cheats are found within the article and ME1's article does not contain any mentions of cheats; and 2) that if consensus has been reached to include it (which we can safely say is not the case yet since we're arguing it), it should be moved to a different section within the article.  Unless Wikia has vastly, vastly different rules from the English language Wikipedia (where I am an admin), there is no rule to prevent my taking the initiative and splitting the article.  Discussions do not have to be carried out before every action, particularly when there is precedent (as there is with the PC Cheat articles).  Editors on Wikipedia are encouraged to be bold; I would assume the same is also true here.  -- Metaneira 21:00, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * First we aren't Wikipedia and their policies and rules have no effect and what we do here. Wikia is completely independent from Wikipedia and share none of the same rules. Each wiki is free to make their own rules and their own policies. We do encourage our editors to be bold, but using polices from Wikipedia or other wikis doesn't work for the reasons I stated.
 * As to where it should be placed, I don't see how a separate section would do it any more justice than where it is now. The section is talking about squad points and it is something that has to deal with squad points, so it is relevant there and moving it seems like removing it from a very relevant place and moving it to a more relevant place. It is, IMO, extremely relevant where it is and I'd also object to moving it as it really has no relevance anywhere else.
 * As to moving it, I feel that putting either on the powers page or on the PC Tweaks pace, is counterproductive. It has no relevance on the powers page, and it clashes with what is already on the PC Tweaks page as it applies to the Xbox and PC, not just one.
 * Overall I fell the information is much more relevant here and should remain documented. As to the precedent about things, when proposing large changes to articles, like this, discussion is required. Lancer1289 21:10, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, just to reiterate: Wikipedia and Wikia are two completely different entities. They are not one and the same, nor anything even resembling one and the same. Wikia gives each individual Wiki under its aegis the ability to set their own policies and run their wiki the way they see fit, so long as this comports with Wikia's overarching rules and guidelines. Just throwing that out there, as the "Well Wikipedia does it this way..." argument really irks me. SpartHawg948 21:26, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Possible DLC Section
I don't think that there should be a section about possible DLC. Sure, they're sourced, but I don't think that they should have a section. Like the title implies, it's possible that the DLC will be released, but it's not absolutely going to be released. Does anyone else think so, or am I alone? --Effectofthemassvariety 23:05, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally I think it should stay, not becauase of the sources, but maybe they will come out. However, in order for something to stay there, it needs a valid source, otherwise it goes. That is my opinion on the matter. Lancer1289 23:17, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm for cutting it out because the evidence those two things will ever come out is so tenuous (especially the so-called "Romance Pack"; it was only one interviewer's idea, and all Muzyka and Zeschuk said was that they liked it, not that it would be made). However, if we keep the section, maybe a disclaimer should be added to the effect that the contents of the section are highly speculative in nature and not officially confirmed by BioWare. I'm not a fan of including anything that lacks BioWare's explicit confirmation. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:30, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think the disclaimer would be good. How about this:  The following information is considered speculation, and has not been confirmed or denied by Bioware. does that wording look good? I'm open to suggestion. --Effectofthemassvariety 03:37, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, a note just above the section like that would be great. The wording is good and before adding it, I'd let it sit for a day to see what others think. Lancer1289

Okey Dokey. I'll let it sit for a day. If no one has objected, or suggested a change, then I'll implement it myself. Agreed?--Effectofthemassvariety 03:44, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, your idea, you implement it. Lancer1289 03:46, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it only seems fair. Also I like the disclaimer EOTMV( to long to spell out your name).

A bit late to this, but I'm of the opinion the section needs to go. The information is hardly sourced. If it was it would be in the Future DLC section. The Romance Pack thing is extremely flimsy, at best, and is just something a BioWare head (who, by the way, has almost nothing to do with the actual development of the game) thought was a good idea. The Liara DLC is clearly just content cut from the main game. Just because Joystiq thinks it points to DLC doesn't mean it actually does, especially since DLC stands for downloadable content, and the content is already on the disk. As for the pistol, just because it appears in a wallpaper doesn't mean it's upcoming DLC, since it's associated with Kasumi, perhaps it was dumped in favour of the SMG. Sure there are hints here and there of stuff that isn't in the game, but that doesn't justify calling it 'Possible' DLC and putting it on the wiki. Just because someone said it, doesn't mean it's 'sourced'. JakePT 12:26, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to agree. If something comes out saying that any one of these IS in works and WILL be released, great, but that isn't the case with anything in that section now. So yeah, I agree with removing it. SpartHawg948 19:37, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here's a third for getting rid of it. If we really need to keep this information a single sentence with sources should suffice, without any of the implicit assumptions. UERD 20:41, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it's been a few days, and there are now more votes for deletion than there were for keeping it w/ a disclaimer. So... out it goes. SpartHawg948 16:54, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dang... I was looking forward to seeing that Liara DLC as well as that new Heavy Pistol possibly called the M-5 seen in Kasumi's wallpaper on the official Mass Effect website. :( Shadowhawk27 21:36, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Importing profiles from computer to another computer.
I played Mass Effect with both female and male. My problem is that my current computer can't run ME2. If I buy a new one, a better, and get ME2, how could I import my characters to it? Is it enough to take the profiles to the new computer and give the filepath to Mass Effect 2, or I need the first game to be installed? It is very unlikely if I will be able to buy a new PC, but It's better to know, just in case.

I Want to Rewrite This
I want to rewrite this article. The basic structure and most of the information was put there before the game was released, so a lot of trivial information and small details are clogging it up. What I want to do is strip all that out and just leave the bare essentials with links to the main articles.

Basically:
 * Plot Just a 1 or 2 paragraph plot description, with a link to the main storyline article and characters page.
 * Details System requirements etc.
 * Release Very basic release information, such as editions, platforms, main couple of dates (US and Europe, whatever was advertised), brief mention of retail bonus items. The massive table we have now is no longer important information now that the game is released.
 * Gameplay Brief description of changes, links to main articles. We don't need a massive list of new powers in this article.
 * Save File Transfer Small paragraph summary, link to main article.
 * DLC Small section on DLC, link to main article.

The big two things are the release table and the list of powers. They're not really necessary and they're taking up a lot of space.

Also, I think all the pre-release Talk Page stuff should be archived ASAP. Particularly stuff that doesn't relate to the article itself.

So, do I have the all clear? JakePT 06:46, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Also, whatever form the article ends up taking, I would like to mimic on the Mass Effect Page. That page really should be better, seeing as it is the game that started it all. JakePT 06:48, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think a few points are valid, but the ME page will be going under an overhaul becuase this page is more detalied and better IMO. I just haven't gotten around to implementing the changes yet because I have had other things to do. There are a few good points, release information slash most of that, small save file transfer section, moving the powers into collumns, but this article is much better than the ME article and that one needs the work. Maybe a little here, but nearly as much as the ME article does. That needs the overhaul, this just needs some cleanup. Lancer1289 06:52, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * True, the only reason I wanted to start here was because it seemed more relevant, and is probably getting more hits. It's also probably easier. Since it's closer the the 'ideal' it makes sense to me to do that, and once we've got an ideal page it will be easier to bring the Mass Effect page into line, since we'll have something to aim for.


 * Anyway, rewrite was probably a poor choice of words, cleanup better describes what I want to do. JakePT 06:57, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cleanup rewrite, some people do interchange the words. Well here are some of my opinions on what needs to go and I'll go section by section.
 * Cut the release prices to North America (US and Canada), Europe prices (Eurozone and UK), and Australia becuase that is what is listed on most sites.
 * Keep retail bonus item chart becuase of relevence.
 * Promotional bonus items needs to be cut down a bit
 * Combine Details and PC version into one section and cut it down a bit
 * Plot section needs a little expansion but overall the section is ok
 * Cut down the save file transfer section but keep the link
 * A few cuts to the Gameplay section, like moving powers into columns
 * Demo Section is OK
 * DLC section is fine becuase it lists everything which some people, like myself, find Ok, especially the 360 items becuase that is what I primarly play on.
 * I question the action figures section but maybe something needs to be done about it. Combine with the 360 items seciton and have a new main seciton called Other items.
 * Well that's all I got, but if any cleanup is done on this page, a sandbox should be used and this discussion switched there. However as it is 02:00 where I am, I can't really take care of it right now. Also my sandbox is getting a little full. Lancer1289 07:08, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh and just another reason I can't think of it becuase I am working on an overhaul of the Class guides and working on templates for the new forum. I also have a few papers I need to take care of, smaller ones than the one I just handed in, but still school takes priority. Lancer1289 07:19, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

PS3 Bonus Content
"Mass Effect 2 has officially arrived on the PS3!

Coming in January of 2011 in beautiful Blu-ray, Mass Effect 2 PS3 will feature hours of bonus content making it the perfect entry point to the franchise.

Check out the announcement trailer and press release for more info, and make sure to stay tuned for more information in the near future!" That is from the BioWare site, and would like to konw what this bonus content is. If it is just the Cerberus Network downloads then I have no problems, but if they release Kasumi - Stolen Memory, or any other of the Paid DLC packs for the PS3 for free, I am going to be livid. Thoughts? Lancer1289 16:40, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm of the mind that the bonus content will fill in the gaps present by not having a Mass Effect 1 file to transfer (as ME1 was released by Microsoft Game Studios, it will be a cold day in hell if Microsoft ever lets Sony have it). Not only are there big decisions made in the first game that carry over, but there are also tons of references to the first game in the second that would confuse anyone who is unfamiliar with the it. As for the downloadable content, we'll have to wait and see. I'm not sure if the PlayStation Network has a pay system or not (I'm a 360 owner). Denji 18:05, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hopefully it will, however Sony has PlayStation Network, which operates similar to Xbox Live, but it is in dollar amounts rather than in MS points. I will just be angry at any excusive PS3 content, that doesn't give background, or packs that isn't avaliable for the PC and 360 versions. Apparently Sony has been pushing exclusive PS3 content, which is arrogant. Lancer1289 18:11, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * One thing to take note of Lance is, at the end of the day, who has the developers? Sony can scream for PS3 exclusive content all they want, but I don't think BioWare functions like that. With the exception of one weapon, which is now moot point, all DLC offered on PC has also been on the 360. But I'm with Denji: I hope that the bonus content is something to help new players get familiar with the series, and maybe something to let them make the BIG decisions in ME1 so they're not screwed with the default settings (Council dead, Rachni queen dead, Wrex dead etc. etc.). Tanooki1432 18:20, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry I just have real issues with Sony and I get heated whenever the subject comes up. Personally I do hope that is the bonus content, as it well help new players from ME to ME2, rather than the default story. I hate canon debates and I just see this starting a whole new one. Also don't forget I have nothing against pre-order bonuses, that's just a standard, but content like mission packs needs to be all or nothing IMHO. I also don't think BioWare, or for that matter EA, will release content just for the PS3, as they both will never hear the end of it. If you release content just for one console you lose out on the money from the other consoles, so it doesn't make much business sense. Lancer1289 18:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

ME 2 save point
With the new DLC expanding on the ME story line i thought this might be a good question to ask, does anyone know where ME2 saves your data for the file transfer? Remembering ME1, how it did it after you're decision to save the council or not, not when you pick who to be on the Council the real final choice, where does ME2 do it? I suppose it would have to be after the decision as to what to do with the collector base as that is the major moral choice at games end, but unlike ME the game does not end there. So does it do the most current save after the collector base, accounting for all missions and choices there after, or what? NightsKnight 02:03, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Power Sorting
Neural Shock and Overload are listed as new powers, but are technically returning powers from Mass Effect. While their parent skills have different names (Medicine and Electronics, respectively), the powers themselves retain identical names. Does this not mean they should be listed as returning powers? 71.245.12.26 03:09, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * No because they aren't returing powers, which would be talents. They are differnet in effects and what they are called. Overload in ME is Electronics, not Overload. As such they are new powers, not returning ones like Throw and Singularity. Lancer1289 03:26, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * One could argue that Electronics is the talent that raises the player's shields and Mako repair ability and Overload is the power which damages enemy shields. Thus they would not be mutually inclusive of one another. 71.245.12.26 03:37, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * No becuase you can't get Overload in ME without investing in its Talent, Electronics. The Talent and Power name is the same from ME to ME2, Throw, Singularity, and the rest, because they don't change. While the effects and names of those talents change, hence why they are new. There is no reasoning to say that Overload and Electronics are not the same, and again you can't get one without the other. The powers are new, and as such listed appropiately. You can't break a talent into two parts t fit something, it's all or nothing in this case. Lancer1289 03:45, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I just thought the formatting was a bit misleading. It makes it seem like Overload wasn't in the first game at all. 71.245.12.26 03:56, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Unity
Should Unity be added to the powers section, since it is technically a power complete with shared cooldown? 71.245.7.251 02:26, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not as it is a returning power. Lancer1289 02:42, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to be a pain, but in the above section I argued with you about the categorization of returning powers, and it was decided the talent name was what mattered in regards to returning powers, not the ability name (i.e. Overload is a new power, Electronics was the old power). In this case, Unity would be the new power, and Spectre Training the old one. I don't know where it should be placed instead, as I don't think it is a combat ability. 71.245.7.251 02:52, November 4, 2010 (UTC)