User blog comment:Ironreaper/Did Shepard leave Ceberus./@comment-204.210.207.90-20100915194803/@comment-1900300-20100916071221

I may have to retract my statement that saving the crew gain you their loyalty as wrong based on AnotherRho's comment. You do have a point that even though Shepard saved them, ultimate loyalty is never assured as seen with Ash/Kadian. Plus, while you may save them all in one save file, they may all die in another. Thus Bioware may replace them all either way, so loyalty may not be so important.

@Spart as I stated in the post, their are likely more former Alliance in Cerberus, but none more have been identified so we cant say a large amount are. But i will swallow my pride and admit a noob question: Cerberus was introduced as former Alliance in ME, but in subsequent inclusions to the story they have been giving a larger backstory, starting with the extranet manifest. If Shepard asks Jacob if Cerberus was that rouge Alliance organisation the Commander fought, Jacob responds "that’s what the Alliance wants people to think." Is it canon that Cerberus was a Alliance group that went rouge or was this reconted to make them a separate, powerful organisation in their own right? If they were Alliance, how did the Alliance bring TIM under control and then lose it?

I'm surprised, Spart, that you hold so much support for TIM. Admittedly, I would rather him on my side then another idiot like Saren and the Broker trying to bargain their way out of death. But in a previous post you stated your hatred of Oliver Cromwell. From what I see there are parallels. Cromwell held strongly violent beliefs against Irish Catholics and his actions where viewed as genocidal, like TIM views of aliens. Cromwell also sought to substitute his existing government with one of his liking, much like the Illusive Man seeks to substitute the Alliance with a stronger government capable of defending humanity. It may be wrong to compare an imaginary figure with a real one whose crimes are so great, so im sorry if that is taking it too far.