Forum:Cleaning enemy characters pages

I've noticed some inconsistent arrangement/differentiation with some character's lore and (or in some pages, the lack of) gameplay details. For reference, see the following few pages:


 * Shadow Broker
 * Matriarch Benezia
 * Saren Arterius
 * Kai Leng

Taking Shadow Broker and Benezia's as an example, both have a substantial amount of lore and are also major adversaries you battle with. However, the Shadow Broker's ME2 DLC subsection is unwieldy and muddied with excessive gameplay info. As with Benezia's page; the first image you see of her is an adversary infobox and not a character infobox &mdash; similarly, it's a huge spoiler because you only battle her at a later stage in the Noveria mission. A few characters shares the same issue. The other inconsistency is her gameplay info is linked out to a walkthrough page unlike other adversaries pages, the only adversary page to do so (IIRC).

On the other hand, characters like Saren and Kai Leng are curiously and surprisingly lacking any form of gameplay info (Saren is ME's final boss and there's no adversary infobox, tactics, strategy. Nada, zilch!). There are also few minor characters missing such info. However, placing an adversary infobox at the top will result in spoilers like the situation mentioned above. Adding gameplay info could possibly create a long list of details which are unrelated to the lore, adding to the clutter.

So I'm proposing here is a two-fold: propose a cleanup method to resolve the inconsistencies in character articles and to identify which article need a clean-up (or a fill-up in some articles). For the first, here's two suggested solutions:

1. Split the article

Articles of characters are to remain strictly for lore. Any gameplay info is to be split into another article with an (enemy) suffix.

Sandbox example: Shadow Broker, Shadow Broker (enemy)

Advantages
 * Less spoiler-y
 * Less clutter and a cleaner article, especially if gameplay info gets out of hand.

Disadvantages
 * May require more work.
 * Characters with little to no lore and/or combat information, causing both articles to be bare.
 * Need two pages for a single character, possibly causing difficulity finding info from two different pages.

2. Rearrange the article

Rearrange any combat and tactical related info into a subsection called Gameplay or Combat (for a lack of a better word). A character infobox should be used as the first visible image and the adversary infobox placed at the subsection instead.

Sandbox example: Kai Leng, Matriarch Benezia, Balak

Advantages
 * Less spoiler-y
 * May require less work.
 * Do not require two pages for a single character.

Disadvantages
 * Doesn't quite solve the issue with excessive amount of gameplay info cluttering the page.
 * Characters with little to no lore and/or combat information.

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As with both suggested solutions, the subjectiveness is drawing the line for articles which a clean-up should be applied. For reference, the following subsection shows a list of named adversaries, arranged by the amount of lore (loosely determined by the number of written info in the article). You may also realize that it is mostly due

Personally, I was leaning towards splitting up the pages but I find some benefits in maintaining it but rearranging the articles instead. Also, the proposed clean-ups should be applied to character pages from "moderate" upwards to "substantial". The remaining pages will remain as it is.

Named adversaries references
Here's a list of named adversaries which have varying degrees of lore and gameplay information in the articles. Please note that this is by no means an exhaustive or definitive list. This is up for discussion too.

(*) denotes characters with no adversary infobox and/or no gameplay info.


 * With substantial lore


 * ME – Saren*, Benezia, Shadow Broker (also ME2)
 * ME2 – Tela Vasir
 * ME3 – Kai Leng*, Eva Core*


 * With moderate lore


 * ME – Balak (also ME3), Fist*, Kaira Stirling*, Alestia Iallis, Elanos Haliat*, Lord Darius, Julia, Dr. Saleon, Jax*, Helena Blake*, Captain Ventralis*, Charn
 * ME2 – Jedore, Jaroth, Tarak, Gatatog Uvenk


 * Little to no lore
 * ME – Tonn Actus, Dahlia Dantius, Doctor Droyas*
 * ME2 – Captain Enyala, Captain Wasea, Captain Vorleon, Captain Narom, Captain Vorhess, Lieutenant Locke, Chief Roe, Chief Weyrloc Guld, Sergeant Boortis, Warden Kuril, Jentha, Morl, Garm, Kureck, Kalusk, Salamul

Comments
Please don't be limited with my two proposed solutions. If the community has any better idea, please feel free to suggest. I would like to hear what are the community's feedback for this. — Teugene (Talk) 19:41, March 27, 2012 (UTC)