User talk:Lancer1289

Welcome to My Talk Page. If you don't find an issue that you have brought up with me in the past, then please check my archives because I have moved a lot of it to there. However I ask you to NOT edit there, just drop me a new message to bring up the discussion again. To leave me a message, please click on the "Leave message" button above, rather than just editing the whole page. That way I know what to look for. Thanks.

Please do leave me a new message unless there is a conversation that is already in progress that you wish to comment on. If you have a question that has no bearing on a conversation that is under a heading, then please don't edit there. Just leave me a new message. For example, if you see a section called Help, but your question doesn't relate to what the conversation was about, then PLEASE don't edit in that section, just leave me a new message. The comments will be moved to the end and I'll create a new section for it.

Possible Mission Summaries for ME3?
Just wanted your opinion on this. I noticed that on an other language's ME wiki (Russian, I think), they set up a section that listed all items/credits that were found in the mission, similar to what we have already for ME2 missions. I know that the ME2 missions were pretty much copied straight from the game, with an actual mission summary in addition to the rewards, but I still think we should list how many credits and/or items you can recover from missions in ME3. Thoughts? ShermTank7272 18:48, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't like that idea. It is needlessly cumbersome and unnecessary as everything is listed in the walkthrough. Lancer1289 19:36, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Just wanted your thoughts on it. ShermTank7272 00:24, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried a Krogan Soldier Melee Build?
Hi Lancer, just curious really about if you would think of using a pure melee build with a Krogan Soldier. I've been using him myself, as I thought of this 2 days ago. I initially couldnt even believe I could make a build of up to 350% extra damage, then I discovered a further 50% melee damage just thinking about the Bayonet and Pistol Melee Stunner, so from just that alone, thats 400% damage. Then combine that with Strength Enhancers, and you can have 425-500% more melee damage done correctly. I discovered that by using that, you can take out all Cerberus troops except Phantoms on Gold difficulty, in just one heavy melee, and you can kill Assault Troopers in one LIGHT melee when you have all the boosts to melee damage.

On Silver and Bronze, I'm almost certain it kills all in one heavy melee, or some enemies in one light melee when all melee damage is maxed out, and its soooooo much fun! I really recommend trying it out if you havent done already. JouninOfDespair 12:27, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * As I have stated this to multiple people on several occasions, I do not like to discuss things like this on my talk page as they get out of hand quickly because everyone feels the need to voice their opinions. These things belong in the forums since I have had bad experiences like this in the past. The "You have new messages" popup is really annoying to say the least. Lancer1289 13:56, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Ok fair enough. JouninOfDespair 22:53, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Personal Images
Hey Lancer. For the past 10 minutes I've been trying to word this properly so it doesn't sound like I'm being a snide jerk. So put simply, you went over your ten image limit on your personal space. In fact you've been over that limit for some time now. --BrewCrew4Life21 06:35, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Once again, you have failed to read a policy fully. If you had read the policy more carefully you would have come across this line, "[i]f an image that is related to Mass Effect is used on a user page, but will not meet the guidelines for it being placed into an article, examples of this include personal Shepards, then it counts against that user's limit. If the image would be permitted in an article, then it does not count against that limit."
 * To that end, of the images on my page, from the top down:
 * Citadel image: Personally uploaded for the Citadel article. Used in article. Doesn't count
 * Ascension fighting: Used in two other articles. Not counted.
 * Alliance Fleet with Relay: Used in 9 articles. Not Counted.'
 * Council Shot: While it is not used in an article, because it could be, it does not count against the limit.
 * SSV Normandy CIC Shot: Would not be permitted because of the watermarks. (1)
 * SSV Normandy Captain's Quarters: Would not be permitted because of HUD elements. (2)
 * Normandy SR-2 Captain's Cabin: Would not be permitted because of HUD Elements. (3)
 * Port Observation Shot: Would be permitted in an article. Does not count.
 * SSV Normandy in dock: Would be permitted in an article. Does not count.
 * Sovereign shot: Questionable, but probably wouldn't be opposed if put into an article.
 * Thannix Cannot Shot: Would be permitted. Currently used on talk page. Not counted.
 * Apartment shot: Used in article. Not counted.
 * Geth Ships. Questionable, but probably would be permitted. Currently used in talk page. Not counted.
 * Mass Relay shot: Would not be permitted due to low resolution. (4)
 * Pinnacle Station CIC: Used in article. Not counted.
 * Normandy docking shot: Could be used in article. Not counted.
 * Normandy SR-2 Cockpit: Would not be permitted due to cropping issues. (5)
 * Ascension flyby shot: Used in two separate articles. Not counted.
 * So as you can see, I have no violated any policy. Even if I take the two questionable ones in, I only have seven towards the limit.
 * This is twice now that you have not read a policy fully, and I encourage you to do so before this happens again. Lancer1289 06:52, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Don't start insinuating that I haven't read the policy. I read it fully on two occasions. And where do you get off keeping tabs on how many times somebody made a mistake. It is downright rude that you say that to someone and rather creepy. My sincerest apologies for making a mistake. From now on I'll keep a tab on how many times you screw up and bring it up every time you make a mistake. Maybe then you'll understand how disrespectful it feels to have someone do that to you. --BrewCrew4Life21 07:00, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Except that if you had read the policy, then you would have found that line. So you either glossed over it, or overlooked it. You have twice not read policies, or not read them clearly enough. The first one was even more pronounced by the fact it was after a note tag. If you think keeping track of mistakes is disrespectful, I have more often than not found it a telling sign. To that end, I find it extremely disrespectful that you call me out on two separate policies, when you had no right to do so because you did not read them carefully enough, and I was fully in compliance with both policies as they are written, interpreted, practiced, and enforced. Lancer1289 07:06, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism Spotted
This is ridiculous. Kunimitz, a new user here, has created 4 pages already, all of which should be considered vandalism.


 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Indoctrination_theory
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Casey_Hudson
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Starbrat
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Justin_Bieber

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 07:41, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe he's added a few more since then, as well as a number of images that definitely need deletion. He also seems to be reverting attempts to flag them.--Zxjkl 07:57, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

He also keeps reverting the talk pages Alertfiend 08:00, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, he is trying to delete the messages on your page, as well as SpartHawg's.

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 08:02, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

It, uh, seems to have stopped for the moment. Kudos to everyone involved in cleaning house. Mr. Mittens 08:56, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * He caused my Internet to crash... Bluegear93 08:57, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alas, I spoke to soon. Mr. Mittens 09:00, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

I don’t know if this will appear in your emails, but if it does WE NEED YOU AT THE MASSS EFFECT WIKIA NOW!!!!!!!!!! Vandals are running amok and posting… well let me put this delicately, rude images and pages.

Delete this message if you want to.

EDIT 9:56 : JakePT has dealt with the problem now.

JediSpectre117 09:08, June 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Too right Bluegear93 09:09, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

First, I would like to thank everyone for dealing with the issue and stopping it, but in the future, don't goad them. Just revert, ignore, and report. However, you all have to realize something for the future. While I see the issue has been dealt with, you all have to realize that while it may have been 10:00ish in the morning for some of you, it was 4:00 in the morning for me, and I was fast asleep. Don't forget, I live outside of Chicago, so that means I'm in US Central Time, and I am about 6 odd hours behind our British editors. I can't be on if I am asleep. I do have summer classes, which I'm in right now but taking notes is easy when your professor gives you an outline, so I do need to get some sleep. If this happens in the future, contact the VSTF and the staff. Leave a message with all admins, Teugene, who lives in Malaysia, and Jake, who lives in Australia, are the best until Commdor or myself get on. Spart may sometimes be on as he lives on the US Pacific coast, but that is not always a guarantee. Just don't keep leaving messages saying what was said above. If you don't get a response in 30 minutes, then leave another, but keep your cool and keep a level head. Things like the message above is what vandals get off on. They think things are desperate, don't give them that message. Just revert, ignore, and report. If anyone has further questions, then please ask and I will do my best to answer. Lancer1289 13:47, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

RE: email de-authentication issue
Hi. I am a member of Wikia's technical team working on the email de-authentications issue, you have reported. Regarding the problem: can you tell whether the de-authentications have been preceded by some non-typical actions of yours, such as changing preferences, changing user rights (any actions than editing content- and talk- pages)? Thank you for reporting the problem and your patience. I hope we'll figure it out soon. Michał Roszka 11:14, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I sent a response to Trella but if that did not arrive, I am more than willing to post them here. Lancer1289 13:47, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I will catch Trella and see what I can do. Cheers! Michał Roszka (Mix) 17:06, June 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello again! Since nothing extraordinary happened before you lost email authentication, I am unable to diagnose and fix the issue for good. Just to give you heads-up - I am going to monitor your email authentication status so I know of any de-authentication. I will then collect some data and immediately re-authenticate your email to keep you receiving emails. Eventually we'll fix it for good :-) Cheers! Michał Roszka (Mix) 14:57, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hopefully it will just say like that. If you find something please forward it to me. In the mean time, thanks again, and I'm knocking on wood. Lancer1289 15:13, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Status
A heads-up: the vandal who came by yesterday morning returned about three hours ago (vandalized some pages a little before 5am UTC, and created eight or so spam articles around 6am UTC). Luckily I was still online at the time and cut him off before he got too busy. Things are quiet as of this posting, but even if he doesn't visit again in the next few hours, it looks like we'll have to be extra vigilant for a while. -- Commdor (Talk) 08:25, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * It would appear so. Lancer1289 13:58, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

Undo undo undo undo...
What's with you and undoing data?!

What I found about the M-11 Wraith is true. Where am I supposed to place it then? Multiplayer Player Notes section?! That would look dumb, since the information written there is all about how it works. That's why I made Trivia and placed it there; most articles concerning weapons also contain this section. Shall I place it on the Gallery then, or the Acquisition part?!

Are you even playing the game?

Furiously, NicKeL BreaD  Talk 01:55, June 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * The information you added is already under Weapon Mods, specifically the section for shotguns. It's not trivia, because it is a pertinent game fact, but it is irrelevant to the performance of the shotgun itself unless it is noted as a mod, which it is on the page for Weapon Mods. Whilst I've taken issue with Lancer in the past (which I hope he considers "water under the bridge"), I don't believe you have any case here. Jumping down Lancer's throat is, in my experience, not going to accomplish your goals. I have learned my lesson, now you go learn yours.

Regards, Martolives 02:08, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Except that isn't trivia, that is trivial information, and is therefore not trivia. There is a reason you won't find information like that in articles is because it is not relevant to the article itself. Trivial information isn't mentioned because it is just that, trivial. And in the future, I would highly suggest taking the advice of Martolives and don't jump down someone's throat or insult them as that will probably not end up getting you anywhere. Nor will it make you any friends.
 * As for the argument, I consider it what you already stated. Lancer1289 03:50, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

I am still not convinced by your reason. Let's compare pages. Check the M-23 Katana article and look for its Trivia. Isn't the information written there minor, irrelevant? I think that's why it's placed on the Trivia section. As you said, it is trivial; it is there for its own sake. What's written there is true, but yes, nothing important. What bothers me is if mine was removed, how come this was not?

NicKeL BreaD  Talk 04:42, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * And it is obvious that you do not know that is acceptable trivia and what isn't. None of that trivia is anything that you say and is perfectly acceptable under the guidelines established. Your trivia was not acceptable and there is nothing more to say about that. Lancer1289 16:08, June 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am powerless to resist.


 * [[File:Wikia sig.png]] NicKeL BreaD  Talk 13:53, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Confirmation?
I've left the results of testing the romance bug on the Romance article's talk page. What else do you need? Another person to play and see it for themselves? Will-O-Wisp
 * Except you added it to the article, and that is not permitted. You cannot add a bug without it being confirmed, and it wasn't. Therefore, it had no place in the article. Lancer1289 17:56, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * The bug or whatever it is is already there, described in that paragraph. I only added its impact on ME3. Will-O-Wisp
 * No. What you added was the entire thing based on an unconfirmed bug. Confirmation is needed in order to add anything more. Lancer1289 18:07, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #1
Lancer would it be alright with you if I change some pictures representing the aliens on the races page? i mean some of the pics look really nice and hi def but other look just terrible, would it be fine if I show you some pics i have saved up for this page? they're all 150X btw
 * No. First because it wasn't discussed. Second, we only use Codex images on that page, unless there is a good reason not to. Third, what you call good, someone else calls bad. I see no valid reason at this time to change them. Lancer1289 07:10, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Oh alright sorry for that then, I felt like it would be a supported idea but iam not the boss :p anyways thanks for letting me know--TorpedoHead 07:13, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Contributions
I used to be an editor at Wikipedia for years, eventually acquiring moderation duties to remove copyright infringement images and so forth — long story. The problem there was that so many people had issues with each other, it is truly a huge mess so I left. This ME Wiki is quite calm, not in terms of the difference in traffic, but rather how everything is handled.

I've only been here for a short time, but I'd like to thank you for your contributions. I know how difficult it can be handling some individuals that simply cannot understand that you're just doing the right thing.

Not to get too personal here, but I'm from the Chicago suburbs as well. How is DuPage? I'll be transferring to UIC next year. • Ҝ∂║эησעşќў 16:51, June 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * First welcome. I really don't have any experience with Wikipedia, since I've made only 5 edits there, but from the stories that I keep hearing, yours isn't unique. It is quite often the same tale over and over again. We try to keep things quiet here, but often there's always one person who makes an issue, and it blows up. For the most part, it's pretty quiet, but then there are no guarantees on that point. We tend to get people from time to time who just take offense to everything, but those tend to be about once a month, and we've already had it so I'm hoping there isn't a second. We try and to well, but some people just don't get it sometimes. Often, they are just mad that their edits get undone because they do not understand site policies and standards, and then proceed to take it out on someone. Often me.
 * As to CoD, it is ok, just a lot of drama with the Administration right now. And the construction all over campus doesn't help with the already not enough parking situation. The campus is larger than some 4 year schools and they are pretty welcoming. But again it is a Community College, so people don't stick around unless they have to. I will more than likely be transferring at the end of the Calender year. As to where, I have no idea. Lancer1289 17:45, June 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the welcome. I actually figured this Wiki would get more of those individuals that blow everything out of proportion what with the ME3 ending craze. Not to complain anyway. As for DuPage, it sounds a lot like Moraine Valley CC, which is where I'm at. All the construction was a pain, but it looks good now. I just can't imagine staying for four years though. UIC is fairly cheap, but I'm going for teaching and I'm not sure if they have anything on what you're shooting for. • Ҝ∂║эησעşќў 18:12, June 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Allow me to set something straight with you both. I didn't edit this wiki to cause an issue. I don't know either of you, and I'm not a raging fanboy with anger problems over ME3's ending. I don't have an issue here, I just wanted to help out.


 * Before I edited the article(s), the info provided there didn't account for any European Xbox 360/PC owners of ME3, looking for Extended Cut release info. I thought I'd correct that oversight, and I couldn't understand why anyone would seek to undo that when the correct info was clear to see - why withold information? (By the way, the front page news headline about this could use looking at for the same reason).


 * Obviously, you have rules and policies, but all that was needed here was assistance, like what Lancer did here. He added a link that I couldn't remember how to format properly. Thanks for the help.


 * You can bash Wikipedia all you wish, but they do have a policy which you should use here if you don't already - Assume Good Faith. Peace. 89.243.139.104 22:08, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Personal Image Policy
Hey Lancer, I believe I am at the limit for the image policy. That said, I will soon be uploading an image, to be used in a blog. Could you delete this image to make way for the new one?

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/File:Harbinger_Deserves_More.png

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 22:22, June 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * You are at the limit, and I have deleted the image per your request. Lancer1289 22:24, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Spoiler tag running into pictures
Hello, Lancer. On some pages, where the intro text isn't long enough to clear the picture, the spoiler tag runs into it (and goes behind). E.g. Kenneth Donnelly, Wilson, Khalisah al-Jilani. Can we do anything besides just putting and leaving a lot of white space? (I'm bugging multiple admins to see if it might turn out to have something to do with Wikia itself.) Trandra 10:43, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Extended Cut Image
Hey Lancer, I've already brought this up on a talk page, but in the absence of an answer, I'd hope you had an opinion on it, if you don't mind. In on the slideshow stills, a quarian's face is shown. Should an image of this have a place in the Quarians page somewhere?

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 17:27, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: Somebody uploaded the. Since this is the best reveal we have thus far of what the quarian people look like, should this be used?

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 19:43, June 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded a cropped version that includes only the quarian and swapped it into the Biology section of the article. Lancer, since the previous image was surprisingly low-quality (did not realize how grainy it was), I'm treating this as a case of an image being superseded by a superior one, rather than a normal replacement. If you disagree, we'll simply carry out a standard image replacement discussion on the article's talk page. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:16, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking. Thanks.

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 20:22, June 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * This matter appears resolved and I have to admit, it was an interesting feature of that ending. Lancer1289 23:48, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Laptop Fixed?
Did you get your laptop fixed, I know this is kind of a stupid question, as you stated you don't have a job, it's just that you seem to be operating at your regular capacity, rather than reduced as you have stated, best regards,--Legionwrex 23:21, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * No it's dead. Either the motherboard or the graphics card is gone. Either way, the repair is more than the laptop was worth new. I'm doing research for a new laptop, at the request of my parents, why I don't know, and since I have two screens for my desktop, research on one, and have the wiki open. Will this happen everyday? No. Lancer1289 23:25, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Priority: Palaven
On the 360 there is no such mod at the designated location, it may be a bug but I am looking around the spot right now and there is nothing but thermal clips and 2500 credits. The equipment page said in the middle of the area, the mission page says to the right with the credits but I see aboslutely nothing in either location or the crates to the left near the other fighters. Mictlantecuhtli 00:35, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that it is there--in the area when you first encounter Marauders, near the waist-high barricades. I've started a new character, so I should be able to look for it in the next day or so. Trandra 01:46, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * The area isn't that big, I would've seen it. It's simply not there in this save, I haven't tried a new game and a rush to the spot but I may try it tomorrow. Mictlantecuhtli 05:53, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Quick question.
If I see the "word" squadmate in a walkthrough article, is it okay to delete it a replace it with "squad member"? I ask this because although "squadmate" is a popular term, it is not actually a word. I await your response.--Legionwrex 19:40, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * No. It is a valid word. Replacing it is not permitted. Lancer1289 20:26, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are saying it is a valid word in the Mass Effect community, I agree, if you are saying it is a valid word in the english language, I beg to differ. My spell Check lists it as wrong.--Legionwrex 20:33, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Spell check also says "cutscene" (which has a Wikipedia article) isn't a word, or "millennia" or a few others. Browser spell check programs are usually reliable, but every once in a while they fail to acknowledge some accepted words or spellings. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Update?
I miss anything? There was a pretty big storm yesterday that wiped out power where I was almost the second after I had arrived in Columbus. Now I'm back home (couldn't stat at my apartment. No hot water, temps were in the high 80's, and all the food I had required appliances) until things are fixed up north. Scary stuff too, I saw a transformer get struck by lightning and explode, big rigs were blown over on their sides, and a building up the street burned down. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Forgot about your computer troubles, so just ignore this. -- Commdor (Talk) 05:25, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm trying, but as of right now, it is very hard to play ToR with friends and monitor with only one computer. Sorry about your power, a few of my friends here lost theirs as well. As to the lightning, I can say that I've only seen that on TV, and that was something that made me cringe. Seeing it in person, that's an entirely different story.
 * However, my parents have hinted that I might, and I really stress the might, get a new laptop soon. They had me doing research all weekend on laptops on sale. I have my eye on this HP. Radeon 6520 HD graphics, AMD A6 quad core chipset, 500 GB HD, 4 GB memory (upgradeable to 8), and a 17.3' screen. Again, I'm not getting my hopes up, but that was the best for the price. Lancer1289 21:49, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Personal Image Deletion
Don't want to be a bother, but I intend on uploading an image or two soon. Would you delete these images for me?


 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/File:Mass_Mashup.jpg
 * http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/File:Mass-effect-joke.jpg

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 01:15, July 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Commdor (Talk) 05:26, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Until I can be on more regularly Milkman, you might want to go to Commdor or Teugene for deletions. Just keep that number under 10 though. I hate computers at times. Lancer1289 21:50, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

:/
When using quotes, the period/comma will always come before the second quotation mark. Much appreciated if you could look into this, or I guess what I've learned about this kind of stuff is completely false and my teachers aren't teaching right… and that all the literature I've read is wrong… :/-- 22:05, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Read your talk page. Lancer1289 22:09, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Edit Warring
I've had the same issues a couple of days ago with the user Parax. I explained to him what the problem was after he contacted me on my talk page, and my talk page was subsequently vandalised by another user. I contacted JakePT about it, and I've left the vandalism in place for admin to see, but Jake must be busy. I will delete the trash on my talk page when you've seen it and acknowledged it, whether you do something about the user that put it there or not is up to you. Thank you. Martolives 23:19, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have seen it and I have found that the user was blocked already by Teugene. You are free to remove it at your leisure. Lancer1289 04:31, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal Alert
User:Dinolord53 and this anon (same person?) are making vandalism articles. Thanks in advance. Mr. Mittens 06:37, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

uniting under a single banner
How do you do?, iam Aleroth Sarenford, Founder of the Bioware and the Mobile Phone Games wikis. as i was reading through your profile i was impressed that we have someone who is about to have more edits than Ausir himself, and seeing that you are an Admin, i wish to speak to you about something of high Importance, it's for the benefit of all.

Founder of the Bioware and the Mobile Phone Games wikis,--Aleroth Sarenford 16:50, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Email
Lancer, please check your email at the earliest opportunity. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:37, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Checked and responded. Lancer1289 05:13, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hey bud
Hey Lancer! Long time no talk. Wanted to say peace: I hadn't even been on the wiki in 6 months before June, so if you've been getting moody flak or what-have-you recently, it has not been from me. ...With that said: check out my profile page for some screenshots of that bug I asked about. Best, -- AnotherRho (talk) 04:30, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Flamewar brewing
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:StagedDom19/Missing_the_Main_Problem

I'd say the guy is deliberately riling people up with this. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  18:01, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm keeping an eye on it. It is his blog, so he is free to state what he wants. However, he must also respect that other have an opinion as well. If it gets out of hand, then I will say something, but for now, all I can do is watch, and deliver warnings if necessary. Lancer1289 18:04, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is complete nonsense Lancer, this guys only crime was having an opinion and being a bit condescending.--Legionwrex 18:08, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * What's nonsense? I'm confused. Lancer1289 18:10, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was actually replying to user -S-'s problem with the blog, but you edit conflicted me.--Legionwrex 18:13, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * So is his comment nonsense, or is the blog nonsense? I'm really confused. Please state plainly what is nonsense. Lancer1289 18:14, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * -S-'s complaint that the blog is a flamewar brewing and that the guy is deliberately riling people up is nonsense.--Legionwrex 18:21, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. However, he right that things appear to be getting heated. I'll keep an eye on it, and I'm sure Commdor will as well for the time being. Lancer1289 18:25, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Things are indeed getting heated, although my point still remain in that it seems like people are getting offended over petty things rather than the blog poster is deliberately riling people up. Sorry for dragging this out.--Legionwrex 18:30, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * As one of the posters on this "flamewar", the only time it started getting heated was the "Sounds like a personal problem." comment. -S- and I were simply pointing out that opinions can't be construed as wrong. I'm only trying to provide a little clarification. Hefe 18:41, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, because "who the eff are you to tell me my opinion is wrong" it surely pointing out in a non-hostile way.--Legionwrex 18:46, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's certainly less condescending. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  18:49, July 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, he didn't attack him personally is all I'm saying. -S- simply asked who he was to dictate that our opinions are wrong. The way he phrased it can be chalked up to passion. For that, I applaud him. I know I won't have the final word here and I don't want to start a "flamewar" on Lancer's page. Hefe 18:53, July 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please don't and can we please move this elsewhere. This was to inform me about a potential problem, which I'm keeping my eye on, not to carry out a debate. Lancer1289 19:42, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Advertising on Talk Page.
This guy has been and still is banned for doing stuff like this, well he's at it again on his talk page,[],.--Legionwrex 00:11, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. However, I accidently blocked myself while doing it. Wow, talk about button mashing. What a [redacted] brilliant move Lancer you idiot. Block yourself. Yeah that solves everything... Lancer1289 00:38, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey
I believe I owe you an apology. It turns out that I can't find much about keeping Thane's name from being added to the memorial wall. On my next replay, I'll find out just to be sure. But I haven't added the DLC as I don't currently have Xbox Live. But, I appreciate you being civil about this matter. 69.131.150.126 05:32, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Mass Effect 3 Image
I had changed the pic because that new one wasn't from any particular console (the other one was for the PC). And also because I thought it looked a bit better. Leon S. Kennedy AKA Shepard 18:23, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * And that is subjective. Lancer1289 19:26, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but that (The fact that I thought it looked better) wasn't the main reason for the change. Leon S. Kennedy AKA Shepard 19:33, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

elanos haliat
well, he's supposed to be a turian, but accidentally given a human model. per trivia note and ingame dialogue. so should we still categorize him as human? or turian? or best option: neither? T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 16:36, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * He's human, he's always been classified as human, and will continue to be that way. What he was supposed to be is irrelevant. Nothing states in the game that he is turian, so that is completely inappropriate, and since he uses the human model for both in game character and appearance, that is what is appropriate. Neither is not even on the table and considering that is the best option, is really puzzling and not an option. Lancer1289 (talk) 16:38, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * alright then. no further questions on the matter. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 16:41, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

AJAX Feature bug?
I've already posted this on on your project page, but I figured you'd want to be notified directly. I've noticed that when AJAX is turned off, the collapsing multiple edits feature on RC appears to work normally except for blog comments. The moment I turn it back on, edits don't collapse at all. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:00, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I didn't notice that. I looked on the Dev wiki and couldn't see a fix as of yet. The last code update was in January. If something comes around, I'll update, but until then, we might just have to live with it. I'll notify someone there though of the problem. Lancer1289 (talk) 20:21, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Commdor, is your RC still acting up? Lancer1289 (talk) 00:42, July 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * It would seem so. Whatever you did appears to have only disabled AJAX completely, but multiple edits are collapsed like normal (except blog comments). I've also noticed that in the "Recent changes options" box (where it has the exclude namespace and hide edits tools), two of the hide edits options have been cut off ("Hide grouped recent changes" and "Hide logs" have been replaced by " &lt;r&gt; "). -- Commdor (Talk) 00:52, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I've since given up on it. I'm going to try and fix it, but considering that I've already reverted all of my edits back to the original version by Teugene, and that still didn't fix it, I'm getting more and more angry by the second. If it isn't fixed by that, then I'm going to try and reimport the original dev code and see if that works. If not, then I'm just going to lose it. I hate when things backfire. I blame wikia and this stupid update and how they never seem to get it right to begin with. Lancer1289 (talk) 00:56, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well at least something worked. I'm staying off of it until I can find more information about it. I'm not going to risk breaking it again. Someone find a good backfiring video, I really could use one. Lancer1289 (talk) 00:58, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Guess we'll just have to wait it out until we can find a solution and Wikia can iron out some of the bugs. It seems like this always happens just when we're about to get an influx of new content, we've got the Earth DLC coming next Tuesday and I believe we're supposed to hear something official about the Leviathan DLC tomorrow or Saturday. We had nothing going on a month ago... -- Commdor (Talk) 01:04, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes it is always funny how that works out. However, we will probably have to wait a little longer since the AJAX feature isn't Wikia supported. The current code was made by one of Wikia's team, Grunny, and I left him a message on the Dev wiki, but I have yet to hear back from him. Lancer1289 (talk) 01:35, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Other than the bugs mentioned above, I've noticed there's an additional "feature" that says the edit has not been patrolled in the Recent changes. Is this part of the new "upgrade" to Wikia? 02:19, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure. Lancer1289 (talk) 02:20, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #2
The edit I made to Jokers wiki page is real http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H5mSxRBGfU
 * No it is speculation. Nothing more or less. Lancer1289 06:48, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

bugs section
Hi I was just wondering why there isn't a "bugs" section on this wiki that could include possible work-arounds. Instead, there is just a "bugs" section on some pages and that's where the categorization stops. If there is a "bugs" page, could you send me a like to it? Thanks in advance, --Zach9054 (talk) 06:49, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * We do that because bugs have to be confirmed by at least 3 users, or other, creditable evidence must be presented to back up a bug claim. Bugs can only be organized by individual articles and we do not. and will not have a central page because it is unnecessary repetition of information. Lancer1289 (talk) 12:59, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal.
This guy just created a page full of nonsense,[],--Legionwrex (talk) 06:40, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Taken care of, Lancer. -- Commdor (Talk) 07:22, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

broken image handling
i'm not sure if this is related to wikia's recent software problems you admins are aware of, but i'm also seeing some problems regarding the wiki's image handling. 1) some files require uploading twice: thumbnails on the new photos page get distorted and the original upload fails to render anyway (example: ). 2) some files flat-out disappear for no reason. checked deletion logs and i'm pretty sure none of you deleted this:. thoughts? T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 17:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this is a problem with Wikia, as things of this type generally are. We have little control over our image handling software and often images will do crazy things like that. Given the fact Wikia is undergoing an upgrade of the MediaWiki software, things like this are probably going to happen. We do have a form for reporting this issue and others like it. Forum:MediaWiki Software Upgrade Bugs. Lancer1289 (talk) 17:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * the upgrade is still ongoing? oh dear. alright then, i'll just copypaste the gist of what i said into the forum link you posted for posterity. and if there's no way to restore that missing file i'll just reupload again when i get back to my main computer (24 hours tops). thanks for the speedy reply. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 17:31, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah from what I gathered, it will be several weeks before Wikia gets done with it. Wikia uses a heavily modified version of the MediaWiki software so first they have to import the MediaWiki software, then apply all of their patches, updates, modifications, and everything else to it. Lancer1289 (talk) 17:39, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #2
did you remove my comment (re: "Ender's Game") on the Rachni Queen page? If so, why?? If you have ever read "Ender's Game", then you know my comment was correct, if you have NOT read the book, then you should check before removing edits

Mike Kretchmer 98.255.42.182 21:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * And you need to provide evidence to back up comparisons. You provided none and either way the comparison is subjective. Either get more concrete evidence or it will not go into the article. Lancer1289 (talk) 21:22, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

So I gather you have NOT read the books, or the comparison would be obvious. It is not subjective at all - there are too many points in common to be co-incidence

as far as "evidence" goes - read the books: "Ender's Game", and especially "Speaker for the Dead" (the follow up to "Ender's Game"), where the Formic Queen is finally 'freed'

Anyway, it's up to you if you want to insert a valid comment back or not

MRK 98.255.42.182 21:49, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * That point is irrelevant. Not to mention the word "obvious" is used so often and is so subjective that when anyone uses it, then it is usually an indication that they lost the argument. Either get evidence to back up your claim, or it will not go in. We've had so many "obvious" references turn out to be nothing but coincidences. So either present evidence or the matter is closed. Lancer1289 (talk) 21:53, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Lancer this is GethHaveFeelings2 and I have an idea for this wiki. I'm sending this post to a few Admins to get your opinions on this. Here is the link to where I posted it on the watercooler []. Please get back to me and thank you for reading this, several other wiki's hold a similar poll and I feel it's time our wiki does as well.--GethHaveFeelings2 (talk) 07:59, July 22, 2012 (UTC).

Wrex's Speech
Give me actual reasons that Wrex's speech is "unnecessary and irrelevant". Because with your logic, Kirrahe's speeches are then "unnecessary and irrelevant".24.60.42.14 14:03, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

TDKR
Just a heads-up, I'm heading out to dinner with friends. We're going to see The Dark Knight Rises after, so I may be out for the rest of the day. -- Commdor (Talk) 20:09, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Enjoy. I had the opportunity to see it yesterday, but fortunetelling I had commitments and couldn't see it. I expect a review. Lancer1289 (talk) 20:14, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #3
Hey was playing the other day a thing you might want to put under trivia for Ashley williams is if you choose her outfit the one you get from the n7 collection. The one that gives her eyes that look like Kai lengs? she doesn't wear any kind of breathing aperatise on any mission where you need it like the geth mission. Haven't tried others who get headgear like James but just thought I would let you know.
 * It is debatable, but requires confirmation. And can anyone read instructions anymore? It is right below the edit button. Lancer1289 (talk) 13:30, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #4
Re: Kelly Chambers bug

How do I submit verification of the Kelly Chambers bug? I can probably back up to a saved game where I can first travel to the citadel, then visit Engineering (or vice versa), and maybe find a screen capture program or something, I guess? I'm azsuming that I can't submit a saved game, correct?

I apologize if the bug wasn't supposed to be under section 2. I looked around for a template on characters and didn't see one, so I was not sure if the bugs section remained its own category or not. --Iamweaver (talk) 11:18, July 26, 2012 (UTC)--Iamweaver (talk) 11:09, July 26, 2012 (UTC) Iamweaver
 * Is it really so hard for anyone to read simple instructions anymore? I ask people to leave new messages, and not to edit sections that have zero relevance to their current topic, and yet it keeps happening.
 * As to your question, that content has zero place in the main article since it isn't even close to being appropriate. Bugs require confirmation before anything can be done. Lancer1289 (talk) 16:05, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry - for some reason, I read that as "please do NOT leave me a new message". Probably because I read it just after waking :)

How can I submit confirmation? I saw nothing in the style or community guides that mentioned this.

As this bug is not part of a mission or assignment, this seemed the only relevant place to put it, but assuming that I can provide you with data that shows the existence of the bug, where should it be, then? --Iamweaver (talk) 17:36, July 26, 2012 (UTC)Iamweaver

I don't know who wrote that little snippet above me :p. In any case, I uploaded a screen capture of the conversation bug to youtube:

http://youtu.be/Ip8Wt90ap5Y

--Iamweaver (talk) 20:48, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not good enough. Bugs require confirmation by at the very least three users. Videos are not even remotely enough for confirmation. And something like this, requires a lot of proof. Lancer1289 (talk) 22:51, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Would it be useful (or even legal) to send someone a save file - or not? Perhaps with Gibbed, someone could create whatever they wanted, though. If not, well now you have one user claiming that a conversation bug exists :).

--Iamweaver (talk) 23:13, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * No as that isn't confirmation. Lancer1289 (talk) 00:45, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

I am at a loss here. You are busy telling me that I haven't confirmed the bug - but neither you, nor the style, nor the community guidlines, mentions what *is* confirmation. If you tell me, then I will try and provide whatever you need in order to confirm the bug. --Iamweaver (talk) 01:59, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have already told you what you need to do. I am not going to repeat myself. Lancer1289 (talk) 02:32, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what I have done that's offended you, but I'm sorry that I am making things so difficult for you. Unfortunately, nowhere in your conversations with me have you said what you require from me for confirmation. You can feel free to read your own notes above - it's only about 10 lines. And if the answer is, "you can't prove anything, stop posting", then just tell me, and I will walk away. I was only trying to help other gamers, but I can take it, if that's the answer - I'm made of stern stuff!
 * The answer is in my second comment. "Bugs require confirmation by at the very least three users." I really don't see how this could have been missed twice now. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:36, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ah! I understand now. I thought that you meant that my submittal was useless unless I confirmed it myself, in *addition* to confirmed submittals by three other users. It's all clear to me know :). Anyway, thanks for being a patient admin.  Have a good one!

Missing Title #5
Why did you revert me on the experience guide? 188.26.163.24 18:24, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it really so hard for anyone to read simple instructions anymore? I ask people to leave new messages, and not to edit sections that have zero relevance to their current topic, and yet it keeps happening.
 * As to the point, it was redundant, removal of valid information. Lancer1289 (talk) 22:51, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see your main "job" as an admin here is to revert other contributors without explanation, like mine and those of this other guy. I don't understand how and addition can be simultaneously "redundant" and also "removal of valid information". Perhaps you need to work on your logic and/or English skills. 188.26.163.24 16:55, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yet another statement from someone who clearly has no idea how things work here. That is probably the worse example you can present to say that I have faulty logic. Lancer1289 (talk) 17:25, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Flamewars.
I would advise you to keep an eye on this blog, as there seem to be major fights between users that keep happening on it.--Legionwrex (talk) 18:16, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've been keeping an eye on it but things keep happening at a rapid pace. If things get out of control, I might be forced to lock commenting for a while. Flamewars are nothing new, but so far, things really haven't gotten out of control. No insults, no forbidden language, and I hope it stays that way. If people just keep arguing over that, then there is little that I can do as that is perfectly permitted. Lancer1289 (talk) 18:21, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * They aren't just arguing, they are acting condescending, insulting each other, and accusing people of being trolls.--Legionwrex (talk) 18:24, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I need to look at comments more closely. Lancer1289 (talk) 18:29, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

"PREMATURE" ??
That you call my Overview of the Sidequests reduntant I can understand. Eventhough it should not be a reason to delete an article in wiki-land. I created it seperately to not disturb the main-article, but taking advantage of its links in combination with my personal notes. (Hate to Alt+Tab the game all the time) Eventhough its like only a penny on the street and not a whole dollar ... but see it as trash that nobody else can use??? Well, you are the ADMIN...

But what upsets me, is calling anything on the modified article PREMATURE. -I tried my best to link the main-article and give a neutral statement, why I think the page needed to be created. So what do you refer to with your (yet not very helpful) feedback ?? 89.244.210.134 04:52, July 28, 2012 (UTC)TheLazyGuy
 * Wow, you just admitted that the article was redundant, which we hate around here, and for your own personal use. Both are causes for deletion, and the second is mainspace misuse, which is grounds for immediate deletion. There's a difference between what is good for you, and what is good for article organization, flow, content, and wiki organization. That article fell well outside those grounds.
 * I would also highly recommend you look up how a wiki actually works because you have one very rosy and incorrect view of how a wiki works. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:13, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can understand (or at least accept) you call it redundat... I DONT AGREE WITH IT. -Since theres also a previous asking for this Info on the article's Talk-Page, it should be confirmed that I didnt post it for exclusively personal use. Eventhough personal useability is my only intention to take action. -No, Im not a Samaritan. ;) To b honest, I use this wiki much more than editing it. Publishing anything here is for me like giving a penny to a Street-Musican ... Not much effort from my part but at the end of the day it could b enough for a whole meal for him. -Thats how I understand the whole wiki-thing from the user-side and like propably most of the drive-by-editors I wont read any manuals for this... I rather stop posting here completely, accepting that (few?) others unfortunately wont take ANY advantage of the information that I collected. -Lets hope, there will stay enough people out there that are more ambitious than me. BTW: This post is more intented to train my english-language-skills than to b a self-revelation. And also your made decisons about possible redundancy should not b affected! ;) 89.244.210.134 06:48, July 28, 2012 (UTC)TooLazyForAName

Screenshot of Hunter mode
"Questionable at best"? How so? How does it enhance the article by removing a screenshot of what it looks like to use it? RobertM525 (talk) 04:54, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Also, Ultralight Materials apparently aren't working, and suggesting to use them in SMG articles seems illogical given that. RobertM525 (talk) 05:00, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your first point. The image had many issues with it including HUD elements, not permitted in images, it violated the file naming conventions we use on the wiki, and it had horrible lighting to say the least.
 * Your second point. I can't believe that you are using that, original research as evidence. There is no way the is creditable, let alone admissible. Get confirmation or nothing will be admitted like every other bug. You are not an exception. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:23, July 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Derek Hollan has commented on this. The post that I will link to was created after the 1.03 patch, and a solution is pending.
 * http://social.bioware.com/forums/for...7811/3/forum/1/topic/343/index/12269221/1#12650482
 * Lksdjf (talk) 07:16, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The lighting? In a photo that's supposed to demonstrate seeing through walls? As to the UI, I think that's unavoidable in a screenshot of something which is, essentially, an element of the UI. If you can do better to meet your guidelines on your wiki, by all means, go ahead. The article needs a screenshot. It's not "better" just because it lacks a photo that you like. You might be better received, BTW, if you would contribute positively to conversations and without leaving snide comments. RobertM525 (talk) 07:46, July 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * That doesn't matter. HUD elements in an image, and it isn't permitted in an article. Once again someone brings out the me vs. you card, and that is a clear indication that they have already lost. Site standards are site standards. Don't like them, then don't upload images that clearly violate them. I find your entire last comment insulting, rude, and coming from someone who only cares that what they did got deleted for violating site image standards. HUD elements aren't permitted and that is final. My personal opinions are irrelevant and if you bring up that card again, then I will no longer partake in this conversation. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:23, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #6
Hey Lancer, I have a question: So I am voice my opinions, just not a rude manner, right?
 * So TW6464, what do you mean by this? Lancer1289 (talk) 23:19, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

I mean, if i am to say something like, I think Ashley is a terrible person because she's a racist, Am i allowed to say this as it is, or do I have to modify it?
 * You can, however, be prepared for people to disagree with that. And if that goes into an article, then it is borderline vandalism, a bannable offense. You can put that into a forum or a blog post, just don't violate site policies. Lancer1289 (talk) 00:03, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

I realize that people will disagree and I'm absolutely certain I won't post it in an actual article. Thank you for answering my questions

Missing Title #7
Hi I'm TW6464. I was wondering: why can't say things like, "Keith David also voiced Sgt. Foley in the game Call of Duty: Modern Warare 2"?


 * If you check out the Manual of Style, Voice Actor Trivia is specifically addressed. Basically, since voice actors do a lot of work, we place limits on what is allowed so as not to bloat the trivia section. Trandra (talk) 23:03, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * If the game is not made by BioWare then it isn't permitted. Lancer1289 (talk) 23:19, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate that

Tali; Treason
Lancer, I'm sorry that I said you where confused, but either I am a moron, idiot, fool, or you are reading it wrong. It says clear as day "these options are only available with sufficient reputation", last time I checked "rally the crowd" doesn't need reputation, however the Charm and Intimidate options do.

Additionally, it refers to the options as, well, options, in other words, plural. "Rally the crowd" is a single option, the Charm and Intimidate options are plural.

This can only lead me to believe that this information should be under the "Reputation" section, or at least at the very bottom of the list, but not where it is now, as that is just wrong.--Legionwrex (talk) 04:32, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? That is what this is about? The first four words? I stated clearly that the entire statement, meaning the statement as a whole, does not make sense where you put it because it lacks the information and context of where it was, where it is now, and where it will stay. It is apparent from your comment that you focused only on the first four words or so and left the entire rest of the statement hang. Read the entire thing again and tell me that it still makes completely sense and is still relevant where you put it without the information in the bullet. Lancer1289 (talk) 04:38, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Jeez, no need for the hostility, I'm sorry if I upset you. Yes, this was about the first words, and I do realize my version was wrong, I still standby that the original version before I changed it was wrong as well, however now that you have changed so that it makes sense, I'm okay with how it is now.--Legionwrex (talk) 04:43, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Geth War
It's getting too weary to undo edits. Please cite your source. Lksdjf (talk)
 * I did. Read my edit summary. Lancer1289 (talk) 04:48, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw the edit summary. I was asking for the specific line of dialogue. Lksdjf (talk)
 * I agree, I don't remember any dialogue that can back up you claims, Lancer.--Legionwrex (talk) 04:55, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Read my summary again since you clearly didn't. There is no specific line of dialogue, rather it is a series of conversations with Legion, Tali, and others that show that the war was unpopular, hence why the article was written the way it was. The dialogue that you cite is again from before the deceleration of martial law, while the sentence is talking about after it. You cannot pull things out of context to support your claims. You must be aware of the entire dialogue sequences, not one specific line. Now I had a much more detailed comment written, but it was edit conflicted. Lancer1289 (talk) 04:59, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reviewed what I believed to be proof, and with a very solid assumption that the video archives are in chronological order, I am probably wrong. Still, we've only established that I'm wrong, not that you're right.  Anything concrete is appreciated.  I will likely understand the context if I can be provided with a few lines of dialogue.  I only believe that the descriptor should be left out because it makes no assumptions.  Lksdjf (talk)
 * Except that you can't be wrong and right at the same time. In order to find everything, I will need to do a full replaying of all three games, and that will take at least a month if not longer since I don't have the time to sit for extended sittings to do that. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:20, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * But without a source, then we cannot conclusively say that a large number of quarians protested the war. Also, I didn't mention anything about a duality of right and wrong, only that one condition had been met with regards to preserving the edit.  I have withdrawn my claim, but you have yet to present yours.  You could very well be right, but again, without that evidence to back up your claim, I believe that we should keep the edit off until another member here can help us to clarify. Lksdjf (talk)
 * No. Since you are the one trying to change the article, then you have to justify your edit. That is clearly no longer possible therefore the article will remain unchanged. That is how it has worked in the past. You need to back up your edit. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:35, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, I have admitted that I am wrong, but you haven't shown that you're right either. The edit that I am proposing takes the uncertainty of the situation into account, and it is a very open-ended edit that can go either way.  Just as I need to back up my edit, which I have failed to do, don't you need to back up what you're doing?  Reversions are edits as well.Lksdjf (talk)
 * No. I am restoring the last good edition of the article. You are the one who has to justify your edit, not the other way around. You either provide support for your argument, or the article stands. That is how the system works, not your way. Lancer1289 (talk) 06:10, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #8
I would like to bring to your attention the inaccuracy of several wiki pages about or relating to the Kasumi loyalty mission, Stolen Memory. The mission has been incorrectly reffered to as "stealing memory" while it is in fact "stolen memory". Thankyou
 * Eight people. Eight people cannot follow simple instructions anymore. I'm getting sick of it.
 * As to your point, you are so incorrect to the point where I highly suggest looking at the Journal again. The DLC pack for Kasumi is called Kasumi - Stolen Memory, while the missions are called Dossier: The Master Thief and Kasumi: Stealing Memory. They are not incorrect, it is you that are incorrect. Like everyone else who does not read the journal carefully when this has come up in the past. Lancer1289 (talk) 20:59, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

I see, sorry for my mistake, Lancer, I am sorry for angering you. Thank you

Legion and the morning war
I have a question- would it be allowed if i added the possibility of Legion being one of the first Geth to take up arms during the morning war, as hinted to during dialouge in the geth collective mission for Mass Effect 3, or would that be speculation?
 * Like everyone else who has attempted to add this, it is nothing more or less than speculation and not permitted. Lancer1289 (talk) 21:42, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Where is Sparthawg?
The title says it all, have you heard from him, because he has been gone for awhile and didn't answer a question I asked him on his talk page.

On a related note, where the heck is JakePT because I have not seen him in forever.

I await your response.--Legionwrex (talk) 02:53, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * As to Jake or even Teugene, I have no idea. I'm not going to give away information about Spart without his permission however. Lancer1289 (talk) 02:56, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thats fine, I take it by your comment he has informed you of something, so at least he is not MIA.--Legionwrex (talk) 02:58, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal.
This guy just vandalized the Yahg page, [|link].--Legionwrex (talk) 06:36, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Language policy
Why is there rules about wich words you can use on this wiki? It's not like it do anything, it's actually a good thing. But why do just this wiki have it? I've seen other wiki like the GTA wikia or TES wikia that don't have such rules. And I guess you know wich kind of words im talking about.--Hello (talk) 18:11, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Because each wiki is free to do what they want with their policies. Other wikis do have language policies, but most just don't bother enforcing it or their's aren't as strict. Our policy here is to allow a very open community and a free exchange of ideas without the need for profanity. It is much easier to ask people to tone down the language than explain to users who don't like profanity to just accept it. That is just rude to ask. Lancer1289 (talk) 18:24, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Question.
(I'm having a hard time trying to word this, forgive me if it's confusing) Hey Lancer, am I allowed to try to implement a new policy via voting forum that if passed would create new grounds to ban people if they break said policy (it would be like the language policy, only it would be about flamewars)?--Legionwrex (talk) 05:31, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want to do it, then there is no one stopping you. However, if you are goign to to what I think you are going to do, then you need to be very specific about the details and what grounds it is on. You can't leave it general in any sense of the word. Even then, I don't think many people will support it but you are welcome to give it a go, since that is why it is there. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:43, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well thats the problem I'm having, figuring out what is considered a flamewar. What would you consider the the grounds for something to be considered a flamewar?--Legionwrex (talk) 05:48, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nothing. People want to argue about stupid things, then they can argue for all I care. This is your project and you can get feedback from others, but I can't give mine because while flamewars annoy me, why people argue to that degree is beyond me, but I don't can I really can't see that as a bannable offense. You want to draw it up, I'm not stopping you, but you again need to be specific. And this needs to not be on my talk page. Lancer1289 (talk) 05:51, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but where would I go to create said forum, and what templates would I have to use?--Legionwrex (talk) 06:04, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Everything is explained with embedded text. Lancer1289 (talk) 06:06, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, but could you link me to where I need to go to create said forum? It's not that I'm lazy, but I have looked around and I cannot find the area to create policy forums.--Legionwrex (talk) 06:09, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, I found it.--Legionwrex (talk) 06:19, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just head to the Policy forum main page, and just create a new forum like the other three. Lancer1289 (talk) 06:22, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Closing Flamewar Policy Forum.
Hey, is it possible for me to just close the forum and accept defeat?

The reason I ask is because I rewrote the Policy and would like to try again under the title of "Flamewar Policy 2.0" and I have a feeling I will have better luck doing it like that rather than altering the original forum.--Legionwrex (talk) 00:10, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've closed the proposal for you. Note that there's a seven day waiting period before you can make the new proposal. -- Commdor (Talk) 01:59, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Commdor.--Legionwrex (talk) 02:08, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Search and Rescue Page
Hello. I want to point one thing about the page "Search and Rescue". In the past there was a section with listing of all empty systems. I'm sure that it is very useful information. For me, for example, it is more important to know where i don't need to waste time, because there is nothing in that system, rather than exactly following the scan guide. That section was in edition - http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Search_and_Rescue?oldid=326399 and earlier. Thank you. Random ME Fan - Sniper
 * Because it is plain and simply irrelevant to the page and the point of it. If it isn't listed then there is nothing to do there. It is that simple. That section will stay out because of that reason. Lancer1289 (talk) 17:58, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Busy
Hey, I should have let you know earlier (but I forgot) that today I'm moving into my new apartment, so I'm mostly incommunicado. I should be able to swing by again later tonight, and tomorrow I think I'll be on normally. Belated heads-up. -- Commdor (Talk) 22:29, August 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, only the blogs have been busy today. The mainspace, not so much. Lancer1289 (talk) 00:11, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Vandal.
This guy vandalized the Downloadable Content page,.--Legionwrex (talk) 17:24, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

borked nav system
the problem is apparently books and comics not showing up if you didn't separate the games from the other media. i quite agree it borked, but still the new nav system is a hueg improvement over the previous. as a stopgap fix how about something to fill in the other media category: soundtracks? they weren't in the games subcategories and they were varied enough to be considered "other media" anyway... and if the films and animu projects were ever finished i think they deserve to be there too in the future. just rattling off some ideas. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 05:32, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can add the soundtracks now actually as that probably is going to happen eventually. I might as well add the anime and film as well. Making modifications. This probably won't be done on a whim like this, but these are common sense ideas.
 * And are you ok? You usually don't have spelling or capitalization errors in your writing? Lancer1289 (talk) 05:36, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * i allow the occasional lapses in spelling (and capitalizations) in favor of netspeak. not that i ever allow it on mainspace when i'm editing. regardless, happy to help. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 05:42, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Missing Title #9
I have a problem with pictures not wanting to load. This is a problem for me on all wikia's and i don't think this is becuse of my internet connection. The picture don't load when im trying to watch them in "full mode". Do you have any idea why?--Hello (talk) 19:25, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Why can't people follow simple instructions anymore?
 * As to the point, we have no idea why this happens. Contact Wikia as this is not something we can control. Lancer1289 (talk) 16:44, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Grammar on turian page
Farthest is correct, not furthest though I am not the one who made the initial change. Xelestial (talk) 16:41, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * And you are incorrect. The Codex uses furthest and that is correct. Do not change it again. Lancer1289 (talk) 16:43, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Also I did not mean to undo the edit, I hit enter when viewing the edit, so no need to pull out the elitist sarcasm. Was just making a note here that technically the writers were more incorrect than the editor.

Farthest means "the most far/distant."

''I prefer the seat farthest from the window.

Pluto was once considered the farthest planet from the sun.''

Furthest means "the most far/distant" figuratively.

That is the furthest thing from my mind.

Also, a constructive tip for you would to work on being nicer. You come across as rude all the time. Unless that's your intent and then I really don't believe that a rude person has any place in a position of power, even in something as small as a wiki. Just my two cents, feel free to do with them what you may. Xelestial (talk)
 * And again, the Codex uses furthest and in this case it is used in the correct context. Further changes will not be tolerated. Lancer1289 (talk) 16:52, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm curious, did you even read what I said or are you just not good with communicating? I didn't change it the first time, I didn't mean to change it the second time, I believe the codex was written incorrectly but both terms are interchangeable so it doesn't really matter. I'm quite tired of you being rude to everyone because they change something especially without even waiting to try to understand why. Enforcing the rules is one thing, but being rude is completely another.


 * If someone changes a page, it is not a personal offense to you and you should handle it calmly and explain why you are changing it back or you don't deserve to be in your position. This wiki is for everyone and you are only here to maintain its quality, not bully users or anything else. You can ban people for it but all you're doing is giving the entire wiki a bad name (of which it already has). Please get some perspective, or you'll chase other users away too. Xelestial (talk) 17:03, August 14, 2012 (UTC)