Talk:Samara

What is this?

Don't simply create pages with a quote and an infobox. If there's information enough for an article, put it in. If not, why has it been created in the first place? --Tullis 19:18, November 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree. This entire article consists of a quote, an infobox (which is of course not warranted given the criteria for infoboxes around here) and some speculation. This is not needed. I say delete. When we get some actual, substantive info, the page can be resurrected. SpartHawg948 20:27, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Samara Edit
I would like to edit the Samara page, but I see no edit page sign. Can you help me, please?
 * Click "edit this page" at the top. --Tullis 19:42, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Which Trailer
So which trailer is it that shows Samara helping Shepard look for Thane? The only asari I've seen aiding Shepard search for Thane doesn't appear to have the same distinctive tattoos as Samara, nor the same skin tone. SpartHawg948 20:40, November 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, found the trailer myself and added it so that now the article is (gasp!) actually sourced!!! On a related note, with articles of this nature, sourcing needs to be provided ASAP (meaning that, in this case, it should have been included when the page was created). The sourcing is the foundation of an article of this nature, and you need a strong foundation.
 * On a related note, not once in the video did I see/hear mention of Samara assisting Shepard in searching for Thane, so unless another source is forthcoming, that bit is getting axed. SpartHawg948 20:56, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

New trailer.
http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect2workingtitle/video/6241565/mass-effect-2-samara-trailer

Hi.


 * Yup. That's the video that I added as source material, that is currently the only source for the article (unless there's another Samara video I was unable to locate), which states nothing about Thane, or looking for Thane, or anything about Thane, one way or the other. SpartHawg948 21:05, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Clean-Up
How could we better organize this page? We've got a picture, we've thrown in the ME2 banner for information regarding her quest... --Tecni 00:43, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a huge chunk of paragraph with no line breaks or links in it, Shepard is referred to as "him" when we don't refer to Shepard by gender, and there's huge gaps all over the place. --Tullis 00:36, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed the "him" problem. I'm still new to adding information to wikias, so I'm not entirely sure of how to add links where they're needed in that paragraph. I'll try to figure it out and add them where they're needed. --Tecni 00:43, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * The Mass Effect Wiki Style Guide has help and links to helpful articles if you need them. And welcome. Sorry if I seem tetchy; a flood of new edits is always hard to cope with. : ) --Tullis 00:50, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, thanks for the link. I can't imagine how many articles you need to go through to make sure they're up to standard. Thanks for the welcome, too!--Tecni 00:55, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Is she a squad member?
Do we actually have confirmation she's a squad member, or are people just adding her to Characters believing she is? --Tullis 00:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, her video does have the whole "mission profiles" thing at the beginning that has been there for all the other characters confirmed as party members. Tophvision 00:39, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * She's confirmed as one of the squad members, as Tophvision said, in the start of her video. --Tecni 00:42, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

info box
Is it just me, or does the info box look way too big to anyone else? SpartHawg948 01:37, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably my fault; I was adding internal links to the paragraph and might have hit something wrong. Is there any way to shrink it? --Tecni 02:22, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * You're asking the wrong guy there, which is why I never mess w/ infoboxes except to delete unnecessary ones! :) SpartHawg948 02:25, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Drat! Oh well. I imagine some person handy with those boxes will come around and kindly fix it up sooner or later. --Tecni 02:39, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * The image file was too big, you needed to add a |320px (or whatever number) to the image tag. I've taken care of it. Compare my edit where I say the image is too pig to the previous edit to see what I did if you're unsure.JakePT 03:59, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Quote
In my edit where I fixed spacing and added a quote I apparently overrode Matt xMan's quote he added, while I was editing, with a different one. There are two different quotes, I dpn't mind which one we use. I used the one I prefer, but I have no qualms reverting to Matt's quote of others prefer. JakePT 03:57, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I gotta say, I prefer the current quote to the finding peace with the Goddess one. From what we've seen so far, the current one speaks a lot more to her character. SpartHawg948 04:08, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the messege, but I have to say I like Jake's quote a little more. If possible, could we add two of our quotes?--Matt xMan 04:15, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not unless the article gets a LOT longer. This one is barely enough to justify one quote, and definitely not two. SpartHawg948 04:25, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I get ya.--Matt xMan 05:33, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Samara/Mordin voice actors
Maggie Baird and Michael Beattie claim to voice these characters (here and here - under the 'What’s New' section). This info was posted on their websites a few months ago before the characters were publicly revealed and both have worked with ME's casting director before, so I don't see any reason why this information would be inaccurate (other than the small possibility that they just provided placeholder VO for the characters).

Is this good enough to add to the wiki? Or should we just wait for some official confirmation from BioWare?--Morlan 04:21, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * I say it is, don't see how else they could have gotten the names (assuming the info was up when you say it was). JakePT 04:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * If it were just IMDB as a source, no way, as there have been some issues that have come to light lately that have caused IMDB info to no longer be considered iron-clad, set in stone documented proof. But as they list it as such on their websites, as well as the other tidbits of info you provided, we should be g2g to list that info. SpartHawg948 04:28, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Samara killing someone in a trailer
Who isshe killing in a trailer looks like asari biotic right? It is not liara yes?91.76.93.114


 * It is not liara, if you watch it carefully it looks like samara's twin sister so who knows, and why is shepard standing there like a ficcus??

New Picture
if possible could comeone find a new picture the current one makes her look far to masculine, and i just watched the trailer i dont think she looks that masculine, i dont know if its an effect of the scenery or what but hte picture just dont seem right. 68.61.39.252


 * Isn't a masculine asari an oxymoron? I think she looks fine. Pretty much the only way to make her look more feminine would be a shot that shows more of her body, and we do tend to like to keep character pictures (especially the infobox ones) focused on the face, as that tends to be A) What you most associate with that character, and B) What you see the most of, especially in conversations. If you have a different picture that you think would look better, by all means upload it and we'll discuss it, but I for one am of the opinion that this one looks fine for now. SpartHawg948 09:15, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the current picture's fine, I don't know what you're on about. Also, it's sourced from the highest quality image available, so any replacement wouldn't look as good. Also as Spart touched on, this image is the perfect framing for conveying the necessary information for a an infobox picture. I'm sure once the game is out and we can fill the page with more info there'll be room for more screenshots from different angles, but for now, this one's fine. JakePT 10:15, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Morinth
Apparently, Samara "shares" her party spot with Morinth (ie it's possible to get Morinth in the squad, but not both Morinth and Samara simultaneously) Anybody who knows more details about this care to update the article? I'm not even really sure what to do with it, given how optional this appears to be (it looks like it's a renegade only option)


 * From what I have seen/heard, Morinth is Samara's daughter. During Samara's loyalty mission you have the chance to kill one of them, so my guess is the one you don't kill joins you. But, I can't 100% confirm this. 112 04:27, January 25, 2010 (UTC)