Talk:Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut

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Anyone think it's strange on why it will no longer be able to be downloaded (or be free) in 2014? Maybe a new Mass Effect game will be announced on that day? --LoyalHaloFan 19:08, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Take things like this elsewhere as this is no where near the point of what talk pages are for. Lancer1289 19:11, April 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * I doubt BioWare has planned that far ahead. Most likely there's an expiration date on this because of some obscure EA or Microsoft or Sony policy (maybe even all three) that limits the distribution of free DLC. I know Microsoft imposes such a limit on developers, at least. But as Lancer said, this would be a more appropriate topic for the forums or a user blog since all we can do is speculate. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:14, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Purpose for the DLC
It seems like the controversy over the ending has been kept out of the rest of the site, but since it's a free DLC, does it make sense to at least give a nod to the reason for its existence here? I don't want to edit anything, since I'm a n00b, but it seems like relevant information. Truth be told, I don't understand why it seems to be intentionally excluded from every relevant page on the wiki. If there's any place that it could be mentioned and still be relevant, it seems like it would be here, even if it's a casual nod like "...in response to criticism from fans over the lack of closure for the original ending" with a citation to their own release.

Specifically, Casey Hudson said: "Since launch, we have had time to listen to the feedback from our most passionate fans and we are responding. With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team's artistic vision for the end of this story arc in the Mass Effect universe."

Casey Hudson, Executive Producer of the Mass Effect series added, "We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player."

Just seems like this should be mentioned somewhere, since it was a strong enough movement among the fans for Bioware to respond in this way. Zero132132 19:27, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is also not even close to the point of talk pages. Take things like this to the appropriate places, like blogs or the forums. Lancer1289 19:32, April 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well wait now. I believe the point of his question is, given the nature of the DLC's existence was due to a public fan reaction to the game, I think it would be appropriate to mention or at least reference it without any finger-pointing.


 * However, I do think that once that gate is open it could lead to vandalism on this page. -- (Lone Hunter 21:56, April 5, 2012 (UTC))


 * They're suggesting an addition to the page, that seems like exactly the thing the talk pages are for :) Personally I don't see the problem with this. It seems like a curious omission considering what the press release says. No need to mention any of the silly internet drama about it, just say it was a response to fan feedback. --Andorian Blues 18:57, April 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * in addition: See the page for Mass Effect: Deception. Similar case where fan feedback led to a response from BioWare. --Andorian Blues 18:59, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Cease commenting in this thread as it doesn't even come close to  the purpose of a talk  page. Lancer1289 18:59, April 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your moderation - anything to keep the drama off of the wiki is good! :) But please read the original comment, they're not bringing up the drama itself, just suggesting an addition to the page based on what the press release itself says, which is of course *exactly* what a talk page is for. --Andorian Blues 20:22, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

If it's sourced, I don't see why not - besides, like Andorian Blues said, it's been done with Mass Effect: Deception. Yanxa 20:35, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'm new to this sort of thing, which is why I asked on the talk page rather than making any additions myself, but I need clarification on one issue; you've stated that this isn't what the talk page is for, but I don't think the talk pages exist for the sake of editorializing things. If the purpose of a talk page isn't to discuss whether or not something should be on a given page, then what exactly is it for? I'm not trying to argue, but based on what you've said, it sort of seems like absolutely nothing should be posted on the talk page. If you didn't actually read what I wrote and took it for arguing about the ending or whatever, then that's not my fault, but if you genuinely don't think discussions about what should or shouldn't be on a page should take place on the talk page, then where should such things be discussed? More importantly, what, if any, purpose does a talk page actually have? Zero132132 22:22, April 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I too understand talk pages are not forums, but he's suggesting a useful addition to the page, which is exactly what talk pages are for. I don' want to make this a personal attack Lancer, but I tried bringing up something useful that could be added to a page on a few talk pages and you just kept saying it didn't belong there. If we can't talk about improving the page on the talk page, what's a talk page for. I vote something about the ending controversy be posted here, so long as it is objectively writen. Alex T Snow 23:06, April 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've already added a paragraph explaining why BioWare is making this DLC. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:09, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

On Indoctrination Theory And DLC
I have only recently found the Mass Effect series,but in that short time have come to love the universe and characters,and was extremely disappointed to find out that the ending of Mass Effect 3 ending contained numerous plot holes,inconsistencies,and antithetical themes that ruin your unique character's story and morals(except the Destroy ending,but even that was ill-done(Destroying the Geth?!How cheap!!!)).The rest of the game was generally very well- done,so why the ending ran so opposite to itself is a mystery.People have been trying to explain the ending.A large amount of Mass Effect fans have come to accept Indoctrination Theory,that the entire end sequence after Harbinger's beam was indoctrination.There is a substantial amount of evidence to support this(the God-Kid suddenly vanishing after you choose Destroy,while he stays if you choose Control),but(and please don't hate me when I say this)it might just be coincidence.Besides,even if the indoctrination theory is correct,it was still,in my opinion,a bad ending;devs getting artsy at our expense and completely changing what we know about the universe's ethics is unacceptable when you have already established the morals of the series in the previous 2 and 99.9% games. Obviously,EA has made the Mass Effect series more about making money than when it started--I mean,basicly story-essential ten dollar DLC on the first day?That's underhanded. They probably wanted to do the same thing with Mass Effect 3:Extended Cut,but knew from the reaction to the ending and From Ashes that they would lose many of their consumers.All in all, I'm releived they're giving us a free DLC that will (hopefully)fix the ending;that,at least, they owe us.This is a great game,but was marred by a terrible conclusion.I hope there will be another Mass Effect game;there are still many stories to be told,it seems.But,if Extended Cut doesn't fix it,there will be nowhere to go for another game(except,and I pray not,an MMO)

--The Russeller

Does anyone read site policy anymore? None of the topics on this page are even coming clost to the point of talk pages. This commentary belongs in the forms or a blog. Lancer1289 19:34, April 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * On the flip side to my above post, this does not belong on a talk page. Alex T Snow 23:09, April 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * The entire post is commentary, an opinion on indoctrination theory and the user's hopes that this DLC will improve ME3's ending. This would have much more appropriate in a Forum or User Blog post since it has nothing to do with the upkeep of the article itself. -- Commdor (Talk) 23:12, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Admiral Hackett And EDI Wil Be Back In Mass Effect 3 Ending Content
I heard that Henriksen got more specific with ME3's ending, "I just did another session with them... They were saying there's a little bit of a problem with the abruptness of the ending," Hendriksen said. "So we did a whole series of things to add to the end of the game, to live up to the quality they've been doing."

"Usually, when a guy loses the game, the game shuts down; it's over. It's done. The players don't like that," He added.

I'm voicing some more Mass Effect on Monday," Tricia Helfer aka EDI told G4.

Raphael Sbarge, who plays Marine Kaidan Alenko, also confirmed that he's involved. He recently tweeted:

"Just when you thought I would never go back, they keep PULLING me back in #MassEffect!! Recording!! Yay! Wha-hoo!"

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/723925/admiral-hackett-and-edi-wil-be-back-in-mass-effect-3-ending-content/ 174.93.43.235 22:09, May 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * This sort of thing belongs in the forums or a blog post.--Xaero Dumort 23:08, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Release date?
We're approaching June now, and unless I've missed some information, there's still no precise release date on this one, correct? So far they're just releasing free MP packs. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  00:09, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

The projected release date was always just summer. Mr. Mittens 01:10, May 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I realize that, I was wondering if there's any news on the matter. Since Bioware knows exactly when their MP packs are released, but still remains tight-lipped about anything related to the EC. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  01:28, May 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * If we had more information, it would be in the article. We always put all of the information we have into the articles. If it isn't in there, then we don't know. It is that simple. Lancer1289 16:40, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Subjectivity
"Following Mass Effect 3's release, a number of players realized that the game's original ending made no sense."

This is entirely subjective, and I don't think it belongs on what is intended to be an informative wiki page. Schneidend 21:05, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * It has been removed because of that. Lancer1289 21:22, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting Permission to Post Release Date
Source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y7xk1_x8ko

Check in description. Release date June 26th. Also on Mass Effect 3 site: http://www.masseffect.com/about/extended_cut/

Keelah se'lai. ShermTank7272 17:44, June 22, 2012 (UTC)