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Hey, I noticed that the page for Joker is titled as '''Jeff "Joker" Moreau'''. For the sake of consistency, I think we either need to rename the Joker article to take out the nickname or rename Peebee's to include her nickname. I vote for including the nickname. [[User:TheUnknown285|TheUnknown285]] ([[User talk:TheUnknown285|talk]]) 23:40, February 3, 2017 (UTC)
 
Hey, I noticed that the page for Joker is titled as '''Jeff "Joker" Moreau'''. For the sake of consistency, I think we either need to rename the Joker article to take out the nickname or rename Peebee's to include her nickname. I vote for including the nickname. [[User:TheUnknown285|TheUnknown285]] ([[User talk:TheUnknown285|talk]]) 23:40, February 3, 2017 (UTC)
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:the reason joker's name is like that is because the credits actually list him as such consistently across all three games. this has nothing to do with the peebee article unless, surprise, she also gets that treatment. [[User:Temporaryeditor78|T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤]] ([[User talk:Temporaryeditor78|talk]]) 15:52, March 2, 2017 (UTC)
   
 
== Peebee's writer ==
 
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:::this is your last warning. go take care of the quality issues before readding it or lose editing privileges. [[User:Temporaryeditor78|T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤]] ([[User talk:Temporaryeditor78|talk]]) 21:31, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
 
:::this is your last warning. go take care of the quality issues before readding it or lose editing privileges. [[User:Temporaryeditor78|T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤]] ([[User talk:Temporaryeditor78|talk]]) 21:31, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
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::::PNG is done. If you had a problem with the quality then was there anything stopping you from doing it yourself? --[[User:Pluvia|Pluvia]] ([[User talk:Pluvia|talk]]) 21:33, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
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:::::how about a bunch of things you won't care about but i would. ALSO, i did warn you on site policy. consider yourself blocked for a while.
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:::::next time read the damn files guidelines. HI RES. PNGs. 1080p is considered minimum since this is andromeda we're talking about. [[User:Temporaryeditor78|T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤]] ([[User talk:Temporaryeditor78|talk]]) 21:41, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
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Peebee really should get a new picture from a better angle. I feel the only reason to keep this would be so that someone can carry on the stupid "Peebee is blue Shrek" meme when there are such better pictures out there. --[[User:Dr Frostbite228|Dr Frostbite228]] ([[User talk:Dr Frostbite228|talk]]) 23:27, April 24, 2017 (MST)
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:I'm fully open to someone uploading a more flattering picture. [[User:GuerillaTech|GuerillaTech]] ([[User talk:GuerillaTech|talk]]) 01:03, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
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::If the picture is yours, I'm sorry about what I said. It was vastly generalizing and thoughtless in hindsight. If the picture isn't yours... that apology still applies, it was a pretty rude and harsh thing to say to anyone. --[[User:Dr Frostbite228|Dr Frostbite228]] ([[User talk:Dr Frostbite228|talk]]) 23:39, April 26, 2017 (MST)
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:::No worries. I uploaded that picture exactly with that scene (which imo does make her look completely different from her usual self... and not in a flattering way) simply to get rid of the trailer version of the image that was currently her profile picture. [[User:GuerillaTech|GuerillaTech]] ([[User talk:GuerillaTech|talk]]) 18:44, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
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Why was the new picture immediately removed? --[[User:Dr Frostbite228|Dr Frostbite228]] ([[User talk:Dr Frostbite228|talk]]) 6:14, April 27, 2017 (MST)
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:That's a good question. The new picture looked better. She looks kinda stupid on the old/current one. [[User:The Cat Master|The Cat Master]] ([[User talk:The Cat Master|talk]]) 13:15, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
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::From my glances, it was removed because it was a .jpg instead of a .png and the name of the image wasn't descriptive enough. [[User:GuerillaTech|GuerillaTech]] ([[User talk:GuerillaTech|talk]]) 18:37, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
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== Asari and the way we classify them on the wiki ==
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I noticed the edit war going on over this page and thought for a bit. Since the Asari are monogendered, why are we including a gender at all on an Asari's (such as Peebee of course) page? I think it'd make more sense to either strike the gender list from each Asari's page (i'm willing to do that myself) or replace feminine (which Lrgsins correctly pointed out is not a gender) with monogendered.
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[[User:GuerillaTech|GuerillaTech]] ([[User talk:GuerillaTech|talk]]) 04:40, April 18, 2017 (UTC)
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== Removing information about Peebee lying (and not being a reliable narrator?) ==
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So why was an edit that used facts in the game about Peebee lying to note that she may not be a fully reliable narrator removed? Because that's upsetting when you write up a fairly important point about a character and the editor just zaps it (and doesn't even attempt to rewrite it).
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--[[User:Arthurh3535|Arthurh3535]] ([[User talk:Arthurh3535|talk]]) 02:59, June 27, 2017 (UTC)
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:I'm not the person who removed it, but I don't believe there actually is evidence that Peebee's lying. The only "fact" the edit cited is a banter line where Vetra asks Peebee what her full name is, and Peebee jokingly says it's Peanut Butter (Vetra acknowledges this as a joke in a different banter later on). Being silly with a friend doesn't equal being an unreliable narrator. --[[User:Myokichoccy|Myokichoccy]] ([[User talk:Myokichoccy|talk]]) 04:24, June 27, 2017 (UTC)
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:Not sure where I stand on the reliability thing, but I agree it can be rather confusing when the same mod/admin keeps zapping edits with no remote explanation. How are we supposed to know what's wrong with them if there's no edit summary? --[[User:Dr Frostbite228|Dr Frostbite228]] ([[User talk:Dr Frostbite228|talk]]) 11:14, June 26, 2017 (MST)
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:Peebee mentions that she has half a dozen jobs in a week, then changes it up the next week for even more. That pretty obviously stretching the truth. And that's only one of the tall tales she tells. There's a lot there that makes me think that if Peebee isn't in 'serious mode' that she's yanking your chain. --[[User:Arthurh3535|Arthurh3535]] ([[User talk:Arthurh3535|talk]]) 02:27, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:28, 29 June 2017

Page Title and Redirects[]

So now that we know her real name, what are we going to title this article, "Peebee" or "Pelessaria B’Sayle"? I was about to create a redirect for "Pelessaria B’Sayle" but wanted to wait until I was sure. I would go with keeping it as Peebee as that's what she's referred to as. TheUnknown285 (talk) 19:13, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

real names take precedence in article naming. meaning it's also fair game to rename vetra and drack if we ever get their last names. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 00:46, February 3, 2017 (UTC)
Real name and redirect from nickname seems perfect. --DeldiRe (talk) 08:52, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, I noticed that the page for Joker is titled as Jeff "Joker" Moreau. For the sake of consistency, I think we either need to rename the Joker article to take out the nickname or rename Peebee's to include her nickname. I vote for including the nickname. TheUnknown285 (talk) 23:40, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

the reason joker's name is like that is because the credits actually list him as such consistently across all three games. this has nothing to do with the peebee article unless, surprise, she also gets that treatment. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 15:52, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

Peebee's writer[]

I'm not sure if this is relevant to go on pages or where ya'll would want it to go, but at least for sake of notation I thought I should bring up that Gamble confirmed that Peebee's writer is Neil Pollner (Cora's writer is also in the replies, if you guys decide this is worth noting!) Reimeille (talk) 16:05, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Put it in this pages Trivia section maybe? NovaNovik (talk) 22:13, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

I guess that's the best place to put it--DeldiRe (talk) 22:19, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Peebee's picture[]

Please don't use an old picture of Peebee which no longer resembles her. Her most recent in-game look is what should be used. --Pluvia (talk) 18:19, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

irrelevant. low-res. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 20:47, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
Completely relevant. And the resolution that the wiki suggests you use. --Pluvia (talk) 21:21, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
this is your last warning. go take care of the quality issues before readding it or lose editing privileges. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 21:31, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
PNG is done. If you had a problem with the quality then was there anything stopping you from doing it yourself? --Pluvia (talk) 21:33, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
how about a bunch of things you won't care about but i would. ALSO, i did warn you on site policy. consider yourself blocked for a while.
next time read the damn files guidelines. HI RES. PNGs. 1080p is considered minimum since this is andromeda we're talking about. T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 21:41, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Peebee really should get a new picture from a better angle. I feel the only reason to keep this would be so that someone can carry on the stupid "Peebee is blue Shrek" meme when there are such better pictures out there. --Dr Frostbite228 (talk) 23:27, April 24, 2017 (MST)

I'm fully open to someone uploading a more flattering picture. GuerillaTech (talk) 01:03, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
If the picture is yours, I'm sorry about what I said. It was vastly generalizing and thoughtless in hindsight. If the picture isn't yours... that apology still applies, it was a pretty rude and harsh thing to say to anyone. --Dr Frostbite228 (talk) 23:39, April 26, 2017 (MST)
No worries. I uploaded that picture exactly with that scene (which imo does make her look completely different from her usual self... and not in a flattering way) simply to get rid of the trailer version of the image that was currently her profile picture. GuerillaTech (talk) 18:44, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Why was the new picture immediately removed? --Dr Frostbite228 (talk) 6:14, April 27, 2017 (MST)

That's a good question. The new picture looked better. She looks kinda stupid on the old/current one. The Cat Master (talk) 13:15, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
From my glances, it was removed because it was a .jpg instead of a .png and the name of the image wasn't descriptive enough. GuerillaTech (talk) 18:37, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Asari and the way we classify them on the wiki[]

I noticed the edit war going on over this page and thought for a bit. Since the Asari are monogendered, why are we including a gender at all on an Asari's (such as Peebee of course) page? I think it'd make more sense to either strike the gender list from each Asari's page (i'm willing to do that myself) or replace feminine (which Lrgsins correctly pointed out is not a gender) with monogendered.

GuerillaTech (talk) 04:40, April 18, 2017 (UTC)


Removing information about Peebee lying (and not being a reliable narrator?)[]

So why was an edit that used facts in the game about Peebee lying to note that she may not be a fully reliable narrator removed? Because that's upsetting when you write up a fairly important point about a character and the editor just zaps it (and doesn't even attempt to rewrite it).

--Arthurh3535 (talk) 02:59, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not the person who removed it, but I don't believe there actually is evidence that Peebee's lying. The only "fact" the edit cited is a banter line where Vetra asks Peebee what her full name is, and Peebee jokingly says it's Peanut Butter (Vetra acknowledges this as a joke in a different banter later on). Being silly with a friend doesn't equal being an unreliable narrator. --Myokichoccy (talk) 04:24, June 27, 2017 (UTC)
Not sure where I stand on the reliability thing, but I agree it can be rather confusing when the same mod/admin keeps zapping edits with no remote explanation. How are we supposed to know what's wrong with them if there's no edit summary? --Dr Frostbite228 (talk) 11:14, June 26, 2017 (MST)
Peebee mentions that she has half a dozen jobs in a week, then changes it up the next week for even more. That pretty obviously stretching the truth. And that's only one of the tall tales she tells. There's a lot there that makes me think that if Peebee isn't in 'serious mode' that she's yanking your chain. --Arthurh3535 (talk) 02:27, June 29, 2017 (UTC)