Talk: Venari Pallin

Voice actor

Not sure if im just hearing things, but does he sound like Michael Ironside to anyone else? Or is it just another Generic Turian Voice?

MacenKhan 12:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah he's voiced by Michael Ironside. I'd stick that in the article if I knew what I was doing. I'm surprised it's not already in the article to be honest.--92.1.139.73 22:16, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well the problem with that is that there is no source for it. Neither his wikipedia article or the IMDB entries for Michael Ironside or Mass Effect list him as appearing in the game. He isn't even listed as one of the many people who provided "additional voices". Without a source (even an unreliable source like IMDB) it's speculation and can't be included. That's why it isn't in the article, because there is no factual basis for it. ::SpartHawg948 22:34, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he's voiced by Fred Tatasciore anyway. Doesn't really sound all that much like Ironside. --Aldrius 03:48, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

His death??

If subtitles are on, one of the turian ship commanders speaking is listed as Executor Pallin. It seems his is the ship Sovereign plows through. If that's truly the case, it may explain why Chellick may have succeeded him. I realize there may be other mitigating factors involved, so I've refrained from adding it in there at this time.Baron Von Awesome 19:37, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

If he did die it isnt specifically stated, but it should be noted that he was one of the ship commanders ralok 19:40, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Probably not, becuase he could have been communicating from C-Sec HQ, or from somewhere else on the Citadel, to the fleet. Because we never see he on a ship or for that matter that he dies, we can't say for certain. Maybe he was transfered, resigned, retired, or any number of possiblities. Lancer1289 19:44, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Baron Von Awesome While the rest of your statement is probably correct, the turian speaking under that name was clearly aboard the ship, wearing garb similar to those of the Executor and turian Councilor. Again, I'm not saying it's definitely him, as it could be an oversight on the subtitlists' part, but I do believe it at least warranted discussion. Ah, well, on to other things, I suppose. 19:51, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Even if it was him on the ship, it doesn't therefor follow that he must be dead. The turian on the ship, who was undoubtedly fairly high up in terms of authority, was wearing clothes similar to those worn by other turians of stature and authority, Hardly conclusive. And while Sovereign may have plowed through the ship, it's never stated that the ship was lost with all hands. There very well could have been survivors. There just isn't enough here to make any sort of conclusion whatsoever. SpartHawg948 21:44, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, very well. ;_; I must petition BioWare for his death, then. :O :DBaron Von Awesome 18:25, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well, we now know that he did not die. Still unknown whether or not he was the turian on one of those ships, but if he was, he came through it alive. SpartHawg948 20:44, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Guess that means he must be a respiratory badass, like the Halo 2's Arbiter's Elite companions on the Gas Mine. How did they breathe outside again??? Maybe they can explain this inconsistency with Wong's report by stating that he was coasting through the debris field for 2 years so Chellick had to take over. LOL. "OK, Kid, time for Papa Pallin to take back the reigns!"Baron Von Awesome 12:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Simple explanation. 'Executor' Chellick might actually be a Sub-Executor, Vice Executor, Lieutenant Executor, Deputy Executor, or something along those lines. Remember, Miss Wong and many others also talk about 'Commander Shepard', but Shepard isn't a Commander, now is he? (or she) SpartHawg948 20:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, like we abbreviate 2nd and 1st Lieutenants and Lieutenant Commanders as Lieutenants and Commanders respectively (colloquially)? Still my version's clearly more exciting. :DBaron Von Awesome 16:03, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Executor Pallin's Death

As confirmed in this video on youtube using a save editor.[1]Around the 1:37 mark.76.198.240.164 12:40, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

And this proves what exactly. It wasn't accessable in the game, so it is non canonal information. Just becuase it was in a save editor file, doesn't mean that it is canon. Because it can only be accessed through a save file editor, it isn't canon information. I believe this came up before. Lancer1289 14:17, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, funny story. He's alive and kicking in the new novel, which takes place after Mass Effect 2. Hmmm... I guess that explains why the bit you cited was removed from the game. Because it isn't right. SpartHawg948 17:47, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I was looking for that reference, but I forgot it was in Retribution, so thanks for finding that. Hmm, perhaps we should add that to the article proper. Lancer1289 17:53, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Page 122. SpartHawg948 17:57, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm just removing it. I suppose we could add a Mass Effect: Retribution section detailing his involvement there, which would preempt the re-adding of the 'Pallin is dead' rumor, but I still haven't finished the novel yet, so I'm not sure if that is the entirety of his involvement with the plot. SpartHawg948 17:59, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I already have, and I believe that is his only mention in the book. Lancer1289 18:08, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Just a quick note- the turian ambassador in ME Retribution is in fact Orinia, not Oriana. There is one instance where it is misspelled as Oriana (conveniently enough, this one instance is in the paragraph talking about Pallin) but every other time, it's spelled Orinia. SpartHawg948 20:39, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed it is I never noticed that. Wow how did the editors miss that? Lancer1289 20:42, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

It's a little mistake, simple to make. I've seen much worse in books before. It just made issues because it just so happened to be in the one paragraph that was key to this article. SpartHawg948 20:43, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed I have as well, it's jsut that you don't see it very often. Also do you think that Orinia deserves her own page or not? Lancer1289 20:45, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why not. She's a fairly major character in the novel. I certainly don't see any reason that Liselle should have an article, but not Orinia. SpartHawg948 20:48, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

2186?!

How could have Pallin died in 2186, when ME2 is 2185 and Cpt. Bailey is already commander of C-Sec?

Because he was killed in Mass Effect: Conviction. It was only then does Bailey get promoted. Lancer1289 17:31, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Canon conflict

Mass Effect 3 Codex clearly states that it was Pallin (as Executor) who was killed during the Cerberus coup. The entry appears after the attack on Citadel. So, what do we do about that? I prefer to trust the games and not the comics in terms of canon. --44 Magnum 10:37, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I put a few sentences in the trivia section so people can see.

Arathmorr 18:07, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

That will probably be the best place for it for the time being. Lancer1289 18:10, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Do NOT forget that Bailey say he killed him, that is in the game too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hurrycanne (talk · contr).

I'm not arguing with you there, I have no doubt he said it; I've seen it in the comic too. That is why I put it in trivia, as although games always overrule other media in terms of canon, due to the sheer amount of conflict between the accounts trivia seemed the best place to put it.

Arathmorr 18:32, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I always assumed the reference in the codex was implying the reason why Udina sent Bailey after Pallin, and the information was passed to the Councillor after Pallin's death. After all we don't know how long before the events of ME3 Inquistion is. And as the Reaper War is mentioned in numerous in-game sources to have taken several months it could have only been a few weeks between Pallin's death in Inquistion and the coup. Who's to say Inquisition didn't happen a few days before Earth fell even? Garhdo (talk) 01:58, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

This is all great and all. But if you look at the Executor in ME3 in the cutscene, in the Coup. He's human. Which makes me think that like the SPECTRE article in the ME3 Codex naming them as the Left Hand of the council, when they're the right, it's a mistake. --92.238.107.233 17:02, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

So does this mean that he is alive or dead in mass effect 3? the codex says one thing and the game says another. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brenton239 (talk · contr).

Move Proposal

I am hereby proposing a move for this article to Pallin's proper name, Venari Pallin, since we do know it. This is consistent with article naming conventions here to use full names, rather than titles. Lancer1289 (talk) 19:20, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Support. -- Commdor (Talk) 19:21, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

If you post the source, ex. I missed it in the codex, then you have my support as well. BeoW0lfe (talk) 19:24, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Support.--SolitaryReaper (talk) 19:39, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

What is the source of his full name? Trandra (talk) 03:20, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

The ME2 Codex actually. Citadel Security Services. Lancer1289 (talk) 03:35, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Support move. Trandra (talk) 03:45, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Shur. --Kainzorus Prime ^{Walkie-talkie} 04:46, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

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ME1: "Investigation"

Is there any way to get more out of him about the ongoing "Investigation" when talking with him? I always get the answer that he will not talk about it. -- -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 21:22, July 9, 2018 (UTC)