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Removing Delete Tags Edit

Note that removing delete tags before a discussion has been conducted is against site policy, and if it persists, a bannable offense. If you think the relevant article/image should stay, then argue it on the talk page, do not just remove the tag. Lancer1289 (talk) 06:32, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

OK, not a problem. 4Ferelden (talk) 06:41, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Commenting On Talk Pages Edit

When making a comment on a talk page, keep it relevant to the topic at hand. Do not bring in topics from another issue entirely as it distracts from the purpose of the section. Lancer1289 (talk) 14:03, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Operation Concentrated Effort Edit

Operation Concentrated Effort is now on, and you have been chosen for the lead of Project Nemesis, focusing on the Character Namespace. The basic control page for the project can be found here and you can update the project goals as necessary. Please remember that communication and cooperation is vital to the project. It seems that you will be working alone on this project, for now, but you can recruit other members.

Good luck. Lancer1289 (talk) 20:34, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. However, I should warn you that my franchise's experience is limited to the first Mass Effect and so I'm unable to do much for sequels' adversaries, besides some general streamlining. I have recently updated the project goals, so I hope that this should be enough guidance for other contributors to fill in the blanks. 4Ferelden (talk) 09:25, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: your blog Edit

Thanks for notifying me about such an interesting idea. I'll study your blog and comment in-depth a bit later this day.-Algol- (talk) 07:49, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry Edit

I thought my blog was a good way for us fans to come together and show our support for the families in their mourning. Unfortunatly all I did was get up put in the crosshairs of the pro-gun users. I did not mean to start that debate, after just getting over saying that putting the blame on a subject is wrong.

Hopefully the admins will delete my blog shortly, then we can froget all about it, just like the events of today. God I can't imagine what the families are going through...

Anyway, sorry for getting you in trouble for a rational comment.

CrimsonShogun (talk) 04:41, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

OK, but what exactly has happened? My internet has stopped working for a while there, so I couldn't see their response. Was it really that bad?

And, yes, I offer my heartfelt condolences to the families of the dead. May the victims rest in peace. 4Ferelden (talk) 05:24, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

No, it wasn't that bad. Nothing happened. Nothing what-so-ever. I simply gave a short reply to your comment and then said I don't want to debate it. Then CrimsonShotgun tried to make it look like I started an argument and attacked you. And he is still doing that now, and I find it sickening how he is so blatantly twisting the truth.--Legionwrex (talk) 05:27, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you recreate your reply here for the sake of truth? Though to be honest, I don't really care either. 4Ferelden (talk) 05:49, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

You said "I don't see how that's a bad thing"
Then I said "1. It violates our right to bare arms"
"2. It won't stop crime (or something like that)"
"3. It weakens our country"
that's all I said, then I just gave one more response say something like "the amount of rounds it can fir means nothing, but I don't want to debate this further" and that's all I did.--Legionwrex (talk) 05:53, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Embedded Text Edit

Please stop adding embedded text into articles. Embedded text is considered a last resort before locking an article to editing. If there is no history of problems in an article, the power/talent articles have no history of this and the issue itself was dealt with a long time ago, then please do not add it. Some of the ones you put in recently are debatable, but will stay for now, but please keep in mind that it is often a last resort before a lock is placed. There is no need to put it in articles where there is no history of problems. Please keep this in mind because if there is embedded text in every article, then we have issues and it looks like there is no official policies. Lancer1289 (talk) 01:16, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Correction. Some will stay, others are just unnecessary and will have to go because of the lack of need for them. Lancer1289 (talk) 01:17, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Please correct me if I get this wrong, but it does seem weird to complain about new editors not bothering to read the rules and manuals of style, yet on the other hand remove what, to my mind, is on of the most effective ways to prevent the repetion of unnecessary edits. Right now, average new, rules-ignorant editor has no awareness of our guidelines and no way of knowing that such images don't belong. As such, I dare say that the only thing that prevents power pages being as full as Marauder or Joker pages is because most people are too lazy to cap and upload images. This embedded text will combat the problem at the stem, prevent us all from wasting time dealing with people's complaints and overall make the wiki more efficient and potentially improve our reputation. Right now, we are simply waiting for the inevitable some time down the track. 4Ferelden (talk) 01:23, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

As I state quite clearly at the top of my talk page in bolded red text, if I leave you a message, please respond on your talk page, not mine. This is because I despite cross page conversations and it makes things easier to follow for everyone involved. Therefore, I have removed the comment and reposted it here.
As the point, embedded text makes it look like there are issues when there either is none, or when the issues were resolved a long time ago.
For example. The text in Grunt's Loyalty mission article didn't even make sense as it was edited a total of 15 times in one year. Anything before 3 months ago is really a non issue and irrelevant to the issue of embedded text. There is no point to putting them in every article because there is no need to do that. Embedded text is a last resort and only used when absolutely necessary. Putting it in every article, especially in articles with no history of problems, or problems that were resolved a long time ago, is just asking for trouble because it is so easy to mess up. Please just refrain unless there is an absolute need for it. Lancer1289 (talk) 01:28, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice you sent that message to my page at all until I sent mine. Really stupid, I know. Anyway, your points do make sense. Seems like we'll have to design some other approach to the problem. 4Ferelden (talk) 01:32, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

That's fine. If you can, please do make a project forum page or let me know because if there is a better way of going about it, I'm all for it. It was just the power pages that really struck me as odd because there is no history there of persistent image adding, and anything was removed a while ago, or was just removed. It was really just not as big of an issue as I think you thought it was. It is the persistent name trivia, comparison trivia, and things like that that are the problem. We only use embedded text here if the problem becomes so persistent that we have to take action. One example is the Codex page for the Thanix cannon. We had to modify the main Codex page for that one. There are other instances around and you can see that usually it is only added after repeated issues. Lancer1289 (talk) 01:38, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

All right. I'm glad that we agree on this. Before we finish with this however, there is one more thing left: I think you only removed one note per power article out of the 2-3 I placed there to be safe. Was it intentional or just a mistake? 4Ferelden (talk) 01:45, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Probably the latter. I am rushing to try and get something done because I have to do something in about 10 minutes. If I missed any, I can get them later. Lancer1289 (talk) 01:47, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

What is with your avatar? Edit

You don't see me making my avatar a swastika.--RandomGuy96 (talk) 04:05, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Someone finally noticed? Well first off, it is a gross exaggeration to compare the DPRK (the proper name of the country, although is rarely used by media) to Reich, as the former didn't start a world war or had any agenda on exterminating whole groups of people. During the Korean War, South has actually committed far more crimes against humanity than North, including burning their prisoners of war with flamethrowers and wiping out entire villages which they saw as loyal to the North, including women and children, killing over 100,000 in total.

When regarding the present day Korea, the two things usually springing to mind are hunger and labor camps. The former has only ever been on the truly lethal levels during the famine of 1996: now, it is only on the malnutrition levels, which affects in a varying form around 30% of the population, which is certainly bad but not the worst today. The labor camps are sadly real and I don't support their existence, but we must take time to remember that the estimated 150,000 to 200,000 inmates make up just 0.6% to 0.8% of the country and so considering them to be its face or defining characteristic is hardly fair.

The real reason why I have this country's flag as my avatar, however, is because I firmly believe that cooperation comes before expecting positive change and that any internal unrest or outright revolution in the country will do far more harm than good. Despite the shortcomings above, their government can still guarantee free housing, full access to clean water and sanitation, relatively free education and healthcare, universal literacy and overall lifespan of 69 years, which is same as in Russia and better than one in Cambodia and many African nations. The regime's collapse is essentially guaranteed to take all of those away, not to mention that a civil war of some sort and/or sharp rise in banditry is almost inevitable given its great militarisation. South Korea cannot deal with those problems by itself or even with surrounding nations's help quickly: it is reasonable to expect things to be far worse than now for at least fifteen years and after that a long period where former North is dominated by sweatshops to provide cheap labor for already-slowing South industries.

All in all, I don't agree with many of DPRK government's actions, but I consider that the alternative is far worse and peaceful cooperation as imperfectly exhibited by China (or People's Republic of China, whichever is more appropriate here) and various non-politically-driven NGOS is the key to building prosperity in that nation and I hope one day to be able to greatly contrinute to it. I don't consider this anymore shameful than having the Roman-related insignia or the flag of South Africa (richest country in Africa, which nevetheless has highest inequality in the world, highest murder and sexual assault rate in the world and the overall life expectancy of 52 years). Therefore, I stand for all of the country's 24.3 million citizens and this flag is probably the most identifiable way of showing this. While usually ignored, it can sometime spark useful discussion with other people, as (I hope) happened here.

I hope this answers all the questions you might have been harboring. Good day to you. 4Ferelden (talk) 07:13, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

north korea = best korea \o, T̴̴͕̲̞̳̖̼̱͒͛̎͒ͫ̃ͧeͩ̈̽̈҉͓̝̰̼̦̫̤̀͠m̫̪̪̯̻͎̫̅̇̓̇͌̚p̸̙̝̓̓͌ͨ͆ͣͥ̂̕o͒̽͐̽͏̞̬̻͕͔͕͚̰͍͠͞ṙ̢̞͚͈̹̰ͨ̓ͭ̈́̌ạ̢̧̪̹̺̺̣̹̲͂͆̏ͪͨ͒ͭř̹͈͜͠y̷͍̻̜̹̼̾̽̈́e̵̹̼̟̦͚͐̈́͌͘d͉̲̣̻͉̱͗̅ḭ̷̻̆͋̆̓̔͝t̨͍̦̫̗͂̅̍̋̆ͩ͝ộ̫̟̬̳̝̲̾ͫ̒̿ͮ̑̚rͯ̎ͨͭ̄̿̽͛҉̠̫̱̠̘̘̲́ͅ7̩̻ͤͩͨ͝͡8̜̣̙͇̻ͨ͛͛̆͒̆̽̒͐͜͡ ͥ̍̉̃̇ͥ̓ͨ͏̕҉̥̹͓̗̤̠̖̤ (talk) 07:22, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'd noticed, but honestly, had pretty much just shrugged and said "whatev". Six years on Wikia (and a fair amount of time at Jennifer Government NationStates) has pretty much made it so nothing like this surprises me anymore, especially use of North Korean flags, rhetoric, etc. Honestly though, your articulation of why you chose the flag impresses me. Good on you for the well-reasoned defense of its usage. SpartHawg948 (talk) 07:27, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Well, thank you then, I'm glad you understand! :) 4Ferelden (talk) 07:30, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

No, it's not an unfair comparison or exaggeration. Good god, it is not. Ignoring the fact that they did start what could be called a World War (though I suppose you can lay the blame at Stalin's feet for that one), have you heard of North Korea's concentration camps? If anything, me having a swastika as my avatar would be better, since at the very least the Nazis were stopped, they're not still committing crimes today.

North Korea feeds its people? Are you KIDDING me? It's a very well known fact that the people of North Korea are starving. Ask anyone who's ever been there, like Hitchens. Or defectors. This is all very well documented, see for example http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11244825. Or hell, you don't even need to do that; just look at the North Korean soldiers on the border in one of the many pictures they have. They're stunted due to malnutrition, being six inches shorter than the South Koreans. And these are the soldiers, the ones you'd actually expect to have food. And don't downplay the famine just because it happened years ago either; up to the 3 million people DIED because the government of North Korea is vain and incompetent, with total starvation only being prevented by foreign aid (yet North Korea never thanked any of the donors). The top leaders still have luxurious and decadent meals while people dig up their own relatives because they don't have food. North Korean education is also basically all lies; really, the way they rewrite history is so blatant that it's laughable.

The fact of the matter is that North Korea is a virulently racist, tyrannical, despotic, wretched nation who are like some screwed up cross between the racist nationalism of Nazi Germany and the complete and utter incompetence, personality cult, corruption, and wide scale famines of the early Soviet Union. The fact that you have said nation's flag as your avatar baffles me; that's even worse than having a swastika. I bet you that more people have died in North Korea's concentration camps than Germany's on part of the North Korean government being in charge for such a long time.

Also, have you been to North Korea? I haven't. But I have a friend who has, a Chinese exchange student. What he describes is not a land of people with enough food, housing, and water. What he describes is in line with what defectors have said. A terrifying, deserted place, with soldiers on every corner, malnourished people everywhere, empty buildings, and a terrible fear of being kidnapped and ransomed. Other people who have been there, like Hitchens or many defectors, have said the same thing. It's hell on Earth.

I see what you're saying about just knocking down North Korea making things worse than they are, but I completely disagree with you bearing the flag of a nation of modern Nazis, even if it's just to show solidarity with the millions of people who have to live in that terrible place, as that flag is the flag of the government. In short, I'll avoid talking about this again, but the fact that you seem to be trivializing the suffering of millions and spout things that are blatantly untrue, like "North Koreans get enough water/malnutrition isn't at lethal levels" absolutely disgusts me, even more so than if you were an apologist for Nazi Germany.

And with that, I depart.--RandomGuy96 (talk) 07:37, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

OK... how much of my reply did you actually read? I covered most of the stuff you bring up above already and I'm not really sure if it's worth going through it again. It is quite well known that malnutrition affects 30% of the population, that the labor camps would contain 150,000 to 200,000, which is equivalent to 0.8% (and that is all by Western sources, remember, who would never downplay it, meaning that has to be the upper limit) and that in spite of that the average life expectancy is still 69 years by the estimates of the World Bank, meaning that many people cannot possibly die of starvation, otherwise the average would be far lower. I also have no idea how pointing out that they have near-total sanitation and water supply is a blatant lie.

The negative things you say in the second and third paragraph are largely true, but I still don't see how can you possibly consider supporting them to be more disgusting than South Africa, a place which is far richer than North Korea yet has a life expectancy 17 YEARS LOWER. If there is any government today that is completely amoral and absolutely fails to provide for its citizens, then it's South Africa.

Lastly, have you heard of NKnews.org? They're an independent organisation that serves to compile the overall information about the country from all the sources available to provide the most objective and unbiased coverage. Recently, they have begun interviewing a North Korean defector on a variety of topics. Not only does she disagree that her country was hell on earth, she actually supports people visiting North Korea as tourists because their investments flow into the economy and eventually improve people's lives. She doesn't want other people to approach her former country with hate in mind and so neither will I. As such, I hope that you will take your time to read carefully through this and maybe understand at least some of my position. Goodbye. 4Ferelden (talk) 08:29, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Keep up the good work!!! Edit

I like all these articles you're creating for Galaxy, the oft-forgotten step-child of the franchise! It's an area of the Wiki that has been a bit neglected since Galaxy is probably the least well-known and least-played of the games. (Even I've only played it once, on my old roommate's iPod.) So yeah, keep up the good work. I'm impressed, to say the least. SpartHawg948 (talk) 10:26, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Unfortunately, those articles are primarily based on the (limited) IPA data from within the game file itself: since I don't have the IOS device necessary to run it, I cannot get any screenshots (besides the default sprites, which would lack any background for obvious reasons) and some stuff is impossible to extrapolate from files themselves (for instance, the "elite" terrorist/turian articles lack the part about weapons used & damage, since I cannot find the code responsible for that.)

Also, can you please have a look at the adversaries category I created? For some reason, it's refusing to show up as a valid category when I try to add it in, and I'm not sure what the problem is. Thanks in advance. 4Ferelden (talk) 10:42, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's odd. I'm really not sure why that is. Maybe I'll ask Commdor or something, since he's better at that sort of thing than I am. The category seems to be working, you just have to type the entire thing out and then refresh the page after you save it. Still, that is a little odd... SpartHawg948 (talk) 20:04, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

HI spart and 4ferelden, I would suggest to create a template for the ennemies from Galaxy like for ME1 2 & 3 (and also infiltrator in the same time) in order to complete the ennemies pages.

Here is a good quality video of Galaxy that we can use to extract the required image of ennemies/characters/bonus/powers/...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_hRTPcnu1U

--DeldiRe 19:12, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Haven't had the chance to look at the video yet (been busy with creating the infiltrator stubs), but yes, I'm aware that we need to create a template for the adversaries from those two games. I have already uploaded the shield and health bar images and will search for the power icons next in my ipa. file. That video can prove useful, however, for the enemy images themselves, since the technical sprites inside the ipa. lack the background for obvious reasons (not that one cannot photoshop them onto a square of background from the same game's files, mind you, but this more of a desperation option.)

Anyway, thank you for your concern. 4Ferelden (talk) 10:49, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Mass Effect fanfic Edit

I just finished the second chapter. You can check it out here. If you want, you can send an email. It's NordRonnoc@comcast.net

Have fun! --Nord Ronnoc (talk) 23:44, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Oh my bad. You didn't create a new heading, so I got confuzzled. What is it you need? --The Milkman | I always deliver. 11:53, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Blog Edit

An interesting idea. I may. At the moment, I am dividing my time betwixt Metal Gear Solid 4 and my blog here, now that I just finished my review of the latest Walking Dead episode.

--The Milkman | I always deliver. 07:05, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

OK then. :) 4Ferelden (talk) 07:11, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

ME : I content + ME galaxy suggestion Edit

Hi 4Ferelden, As you can see we are working on the content of ME:I. I know that you were interested by ME:I a few weeks ago so you are welcome to join us for this project.

You can check the main page project (I give you the permission to edit): User:DeldiRe/Sandbox/Mass Effect: Infiltrator

and you can also go on each page that I edit to give your comment or to correct wording/grammar/spelling.

And if you have more free time, I suggest, as I did with TW664n that you rewrite the ME galaxy article to match with the layout of Mass Effect article like I try to do in my sandbox

see you--DeldiRe 09:12, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I have a lot of IRL commitments for now, so I won't be able to do any major contributions for a couple of weeks at least. Thanks anyway for continuing with the project and notifying me. :) 4Ferelden (talk) 01:15, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Ty for your corrections, keep up the good work ;) --DeldiRe 11:09, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
Hi again, shouldnt we add informations on "capabilities" of MEI ennemies such as ennmies from other games ? It is a long work and I could use your game. And I will also need your help to flesh out the missions articles (for the walktrough, checkpoint by checkpoint). If you have the time of course --DeldiRe 09:11, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I thought I made this clear a while ago that I still don't have the IOS device, let alone the game: many of these are simply educated guesses or based on information from the reviews, i.e: if the Grad Turret is ceiling-mounted, then melee-range or movement-based biotics shouldn't logically work on them. If you find any of those wrong, please feel free to correct those. All in all, my help will unfortunately be limited to grammatic/syntaxic corrections and such extrapolations.

Regarding the capabilities section, I would say no. Mass Effect enemies articles' don't have it either: I'm not entirely sure of the reason, but I think it's due to original ME generally giving its enemies same powers/abilities as the player of corresponding class and many differently-titled enemies being absolutely the same combat-wise. ME2/ME3 have made the system more complex, thus making the capabilities section for those games alone the simplest answer organisation-wise. You can always ask Trandra, Temp or Commdor about precise reasoning at work.

Finally, since I have established my limitations for MEI articles, can you please try to confirm on this talk page: a) whether or not most humanoid enemies possess special melee attacks or will simply continue shooting; b) whether or not Riot Troopers are affected by Charge, Push and Punch while they're shielded; c) are geth troopers/juggernauts also affected by headshots like normal enemies. This will allow me to flesh out the respective articles by myself and speed up the project.

Thanks in advance. 4Ferelden (talk) 09:33, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah just, I forget that you didn't possess the game but that's no big deal, you can still continue your grammatical/spelling corrections, they are more than welcome for a french speaker like me :). And as you said, I just saw that ME ennemies didn't get those capabilities section and thus it is also, IMO, not needed for MEI ennemies.

I will try to add the informations that you proposed when I will finalize ennemies articles with the help of Trandra and her template --DeldiRe 09:40, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

4Ferelden, to answer a couple of your questions regarding enemies and tactics—humanoid enemies just shoot and don't melee, and both geth enemy types are vulnerable to headshots. I think the Riot Troopers are not vulnerable to Push and Punch while they are shielded, but I'll have to double-check. Trandra (talk) 22:25, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
OK, thanks. If it's no trouble, do asari and krogan prisoners use same Mattocks' Auto as nearly everyone, as they unarmed or something else? Also, does juggernaut do anything special or is it just a slower-moving, armored and shielded trooper with the same assault rifle? Finally, what exactly is the difference between trooper, assault trooper and centurion gameplay-wise? If this is answered, I can begin to flesh out the articles for them.
Finally, in reply to our earlier conversation (sorry for not doing this earlier!), I know from the game files I downloaded on PC that enemies in Galaxy don't have armour or barriers, but I'm unsure if there are any without shields. I also couldn't find any ability icons besides the ones Jacob uses, but I can't get into the enemies' code to verify that. There is a link above this page to a Galaxy video walkthrough; I don't have enough internet to watch it for now, but you can do that if you have the time.

Best regards. 06:29, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

I will aslo check for melee vs riot troopers. To answer your question about ennemies arsenal, everyone in the game use the same weapons than Randall except the Geth Juggernaut (Geth shotgun) and maybe the Unnamed Turian (I have to check it also). For the asari, the use the shotgun and the krogan uses the M-333 Beam heavy weapons (but not sure that the first krogan encountered in the game use this weapons as well, need to check).--DeldiRe 09:09, April 3, 2013 (UTC)


Keep up the good work on MEI content, thanks for the help when I'm busy with my real life. I will provide the pictures needed as soon as I can.--DeldiRe 10:21, April 16, 2013 (UTC)

MEI information Edit

Did you say you haven't played the game? I've had to correct a couple of your notes... Trandra (talk) 00:34, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

  • Unfortunately, no, I don't have an IOS device and so I didn't play the game. All my edits were based on the info I got from other sources, which has its limitations. Nevetheless, thank you for your corrections and the template you've made.4Ferelden (talk) 10:25, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Email Edit

For the time being, I'm unable to access my email on comcast.net. Thankfully, I have a backup email in case either something like this happens. If you wish to contact me for our fanfic, it'll be NordRonnoc@gmail.com for the time being. I'll let you know when the servers at Comcast are fixed. --174.52.178.64 06:50, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I can access my email on comcast.net. --Nord Ronnoc (talk) 18:01, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
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